Ok, Help a Journey fan get into Toto

by **Rockindeano** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:12 pm

I love Andrew so much, and respect his word, where does a Journey fan, the biggest of all, go to start to get into Toto?

Let me hear it.
I've heard Toto being one of the bands with the best musicians, but it's hard to argue against Journey for that award. Toto: help me out. please.

Thanks in advance.

by **jim** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:08 pm

Well, im not sure about Andrew's suggestions - I loathe to suggest Sony's PAST TO PRESENT Greatest Hits album, I think there was a better greatest hits album released in the mid 90's

But if I were to choose any two albums that would sum up a good introduction to TOTO it would be their grammy winning TOTO IV (red cover, Gold logo and sword) and aargh its a toss up between Fahrenheit and Kingdom of Desire.

Seriously though TOTO are a great band, capable of many different genre's (often a good selection on each album)

If you only limit yourself to one CD, buy TOTO IV (the album everyone has sitting in their vinyl collection somewhere) if you hate this album, you'll probably never settle into TOTO.

I love Journey (dont worship them) and I love TOTO so its possible to like both. but they are different animals music wise, like them all

and remember you'll never know if you like them without trying.

by **Abitaman** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:48 pm

First you have to take a Journey and leave Kansas.

Buy their Greatest hits first, that came out in the late 80's, It's a good greatest hits, could have been done better.

Buy 4,7, Fahrenheit, toto, Mindfields, if your into a more pop rock sound.

For a more hard rock sound-Kingdom of Desire, Hydra, Isolation

Avoid-Tambu, Through the Looking Glass, Turn Back, or any other Toto cd being with the letter T :wink:

-ERIC

by **r@y** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:41 am

Deano dude,

Get the folowing :

Isolation

Kingdom of Desire

Seventh One

Fahrenheit

If you could get thru Toto with the above 4 CD's...then we'll go into the rest....

Cheers.

Ray

by **Rockindeano** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:35 am

Thanks.

I am off to get KOD and Isolation today..

I will let you know..

by **r@y** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:44 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Thanks.

I am off to get KOD and Isolation today..

I will let you know..

Way to go, Deano...!

Let us know what you think.

My 3 personal favourites are Isolation, KOD and 7th One. Gems..!

Cheers.

Ray

by **Rockinreggie** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:09 pm

I got hooked on Toto from the start. I listened to the first two albums Toto & Hydra until I wore them out. I've been listening to them alot lately & it brings back some cool memories. It's kinda cool that I loved Toto & Steve Lukather so much & I now write for his website & he knows who I am.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:33 am

I got KOD.

Like it immensely.

Very good record.

Next up, Isolation.

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:40 am

KOD is my pick. I like some of the 70s and 80s Toto but prefer the Luke fronted albums. Mindfields has great moments.
The 25th Anniversary DVD from Amsterdam is awesome.

by **r@y** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:21 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:I got KOD.

Like it immensely.

Very good record.

Next up, Isolation.

Welcome to the club, my man...! You like KOD..? You have good taste, mate..!

Isolation is pretty alright too...a few nice ones in there, ADC, Isolation, HDIF, SIT...

BTW, check out Toto's new record Falling In Between, Andrew's got 2 soundclips on the site...

Cheers.

Ray

by **NealIsGod** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:37 pm

I like King of the World. The other one was ok, but I need more to judge it.

by **BlackWall** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:25 pm

Deano..
I'm a fairly new Toto fan- I didn't really explore much of their catalogue until I saw "Live In Amsterdam"; The concert had a huge medley that included a lot of songs that weren't really hits, but I guess are considered fan favorites. They have some great stuff that the majority of people have no idea about; songs like "English Eyes", "Girl Goodbye", "White Sister" and "Lion".

For the U.S., they really need to have a more complete hits collection issued; "Past To Present" and "Essential" just don't showcase enough of the lesser known gems. If I had to pick one of those collections, I guess I'd have to go with "Essential", but I think to see what the band is really about, you need to dig into quite a few of the individual albums.

I actually would not suggest "Toto IV" to start.. It's not a bad album, but it's very soft, and the majority of what's essential on that one has been all over radio for years.

"Isolation" was a good choice, it's one of my faves.. It's a unique album for the group; their sound had a slightly harder edge with this one, and it's the only album to feature Fergie Fredrickson(sp?) on vox; there's actually a couple of songs where he reminds me (slightly) of Steve Perry.

I can't comment too much on "Kingdom", I do kinda dig "Don't Chain My Heart", but I haven't had a chance to sample many of the other songs.

It all depends on what kinda stuff you like.. Personally, I would suggest checking out their debut album("Toto"); "Hydra" and to go against what some of the other members have said, I would would try "Turn Back".
This gives you all of the stages before they had their big break with "Toto IV". I think their debut album is great, it rocks, but it also has a little bit of a mild funk element on certain tracks- not to mention a touch of art/rock.

"Hydra" isn't that different from the debut, but it maybe has a slightly harder edge.

"Turn Back" has actually become one of my faves. Out of the first three albums, it probably is the most pop/rock oriented, but don't get me wrong, it still has traces of art/rock(the title track comes to mind), and it features a ballad or two. The biggest difference to me is that the funk has pretty much vanished with this one.

Those are my suggestions to start; like I said, it depends on what you like. I really dig the sound of the first three albums, and then "Isolation". Once you get into the albums between "Isolation" and "Kingdom Of Desire", a lot of the songs have more of a dance sound, which may or may not be your thing.

by **brandonx76** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:57 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Thanks.

I am off to get KOD and Isolation today..

I will let you know..

Ahh - the perfect recommendations for you...

- Brandon

by **AOR rules** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:04 pm

Bottom of your soul has very good chorus. Radiowaves will love this one.

by **brandonx76** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:21 pm

AOR rules wrote:Bottom of your soul has very good chorus. Radiowaves will love this one.

Ya know - with all the hype on this one (return of Joseph, 1st single), etc I hope it does well. Still - "King of the World" - is beyond expectations..

by **Abitaman** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:45 pm

AOR rules wrote:Bottom of your soul has very good chorus. Radiowaves will love this one.

Doubtful, radio loves crap nowadays! This is not crap, it's good, so expect it to get passed over-ERIC

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:25 pm

Abitaman wrote:
AOR rules wrote:Bottom of your soul has very good chorus. Radiowaves will love this one.

Doubtful, radio loves crap nowadays! This is not crap, it's good, so expect it to get passed over-ERIC

My thoughts exactly.

AOR rules is from Scandinavia, so I was wondering if radio was different there.

NO WAY Toto gets airplay in the States or Canada.

I do LOVE KOD however.

by **usedtobadnews61** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:48 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:[

AOR rules is from Scandinavia, so I was wondering if radio was different there.

NO WAY Toto gets airplay in the States or Canada.

I do LOVE KOD however.

I agree about radio Deano...

That's why Toto barely tours the states and sells out in Europe, Japan and the rest of the world.

I love KOD too, but I think Tambu is still my favorite of theirs.

Jim

by **AOR rules** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:43 pm

I wouldnt say our airwaves are some kind of AOR heaven as national radio doesn´t play even Toto which is most popular AOR band here. But local stations are giving them airplay, well at least Rosanna, Hold the line and Africa can be heard quite often in radio.

by **Vladan** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:35 am

"TOTO - ESSENTIALS" CD

AOR rules wrote:I wouldnt say our airwaves are some kind of AOR heaven as national radio doesn´t play even Toto which is most popular AOR band here. But local stations are giving them airplay, well at least Rosanna, Hold the line and Africa can be heard quite often in radio.

Here in Australia, those 3 songs are heard the most. Thats all they ever play from TOTO here, as if thats all they ever done. I know hits are what raido stations encourage, but it would be nice to hear some other awesome TOTO songs aswell, rather than just Africa all the time.

by **BlackWall** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:10 am

Deano, if you picked up "Isolation", what is your take on it?

by **Argus** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:33 pm

Toto is available on Rhapsody too. You can hear their cd's there before you buy. Great band. Totally different from Journey IMO you can love both. :wink:

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:36 am

I like Isolation..NOT as good as KOD..but it does have about 3 really bitchin trax..

Journey is different.....But Toto is cool as shit..

by **NealIsGod** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:32 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:I like Isolation..NOT as good as KOD..but it does have about 3 really bitchin trax..

Journey is different.....But Toto is cool as shit..

Deano, can you burn me a copy?

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:42 am

Can you blow me?

Of course I can.. :wink:

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:51 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Can you blow me?

Of course I can..

You're lucky I scrolled down. I was ready to kick your ass! :twisted:

by **jrnyman28** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:37 am

Hey there, I started reading this thread and decided to do as Deano and check out some ToTo. I have always had a fondness for the radio singles, but know little else about them. So, after reading this, I am now listening to Kingdom Of Desire. I am only on track two, but I really like this one. The first one didn't do so much for me.

Who was the 'primary' vocalist on this one?

by **jrnyman28** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:11 am

WOW, what a good CD!!

by **r@y** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:11 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:Hey there, I started reading this thread and decided to do as Deano and check out some ToTo. I have always had a fondness for the radio singles, but know little else about them. So, after reading this, I am now listening to Kingdom Of Desire. I am only on track two, but I really like this one. The first one didn't do so much for me.

Who was the 'primary' vocalist on this one?

Dave,

That would be my man, Steve 'Luke' Lukather...! (my avatar)

He actually is the guitarist, but KOD is the first album that he took lead vocal duties for the first time.

2nd song..? That would be Dont Chain My Heart..?

Cheers.

Ray

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:14 pm

rubiconman wrote:Dave,

That would be my man, Steve 'Luke' Lukather...! (my avatar)

He actually is the guitarist, but KOD is the first album that he took lead vocal duties for the first time.

2nd song..? That would be Dont Chain My Heart..?

Cheers.

Ray

I have heard him sing before, but I did not recognize it here. I really like that song. This is a very good CD!!

MR

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