Edge Of The Century is 25

by **Toph** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:12 am

by **Abitaman** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:32 am

I always like that CD. Thought Glen's debut is Styx was stronger than Tommy's, song wise and whole cd wise.
All 4 of Glen's songs are good, where Shaw had the awesome Crystal Ball, the awful Shooz and MadameM was ok.
DDY's songs are good to strong on Edge, where his songs on CB are weak, Ballerina has some balls to it but for the post part takes too long to get going good.
JY on the other had had a weak showing on Edge, a very been there done that. But CB, Put Me On is something very different, in a good way.

CB C-
Edge B

by **Toph** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:56 am

Abitaman wrote:I always like that CD. Thought Glen's debut is Styx was stronger than Tommy's, song wise and whole cd wise.
All 4 of Glen's songs are good, where Shaw had the awesome Crystal Ball, the awful Shooz and MadameM was ok.
DDY's songs are good to strong on Edge, where his songs on CB are weak, Ballerina has some balls to it but for the post part takes too long to get going good.
JY on the other had had a weak showing on Edge, a very been there done that. But CB, Put Me On is something very different, in a good way.

CB C-
Edge B

The song Crystal Ball makes CB for me. One of my top 3 Tommy songs. They put it on Rockers, but I don't really consider it a balls out rocker. Its a nice balance. Mademoisselle is also strong. Shooz is dated and bad. DDY CB songs are meh. This Old Man I believe is the best of the bunch, while Jennifer is meh and Ballerina goes on for 2 minutes too long. "La la la la la la" - too many!

I'm not a huge fan of hair metal, so I'm not a big fan of Glen's Edge contributions. To me, despite what Dennis says, it is not cohesive. Sounds like 2 separate albums - the Glen songs and the DDY songs. Show Me the Way is one of my all time favorite Styx songs, however. Also like Back To Chicago.

by **Abitaman** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:24 am

I think Edge has a something different going for it. Yes it does sound like a Glen and DDY cds put together at points, but it is not as bad as Brave New World has being like it was from 2 different bands. Edge wasn't afraid to try something different, where CB seemed to go on the strength of 2 songs, and rest of those songs seemed been there done that.
Edge wasn't afraid to be danceable, acoustic, ballad, hard / pop rock, adult soft rock, or whatever you want to call Back To Chicago (which I agree is a good song). They tried, not all worked, but nothing (other than JY's song) really failed.
Crystal Ball is hard for me to listen to has a whole at times, to much non effort. That CD seemed to be finding it's way too, like Edge, but came up short by everyone.

by **Toph** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:04 am

Abitaman wrote:I think Edge has a something different going for it. Yes it does sound like a Glen and DDY cds put together at points, but it is not as bad as Brave New World has being like it was from 2 different bands. Edge wasn't afraid to try something different, where CB seemed to go on the strength of 2 songs, and rest of those songs seemed been there done that.
Edge wasn't afraid to be danceable, acoustic, ballad, hard / pop rock, adult soft rock, or whatever you want to call Back To Chicago (which I agree is a good song). They tried, not all worked, but nothing (other than JY's song) really failed.
Crystal Ball is hard for me to listen to has a whole at times, to much non effort. That CD seemed to be finding it's way too, like Edge, but came up short by everyone.

Fair points. I haven't listened to Edge for a while, but I remember that the first time I heard Love Is The Ritual (and remember it was being pushed by MTV and our local radio stations - Stay tuned for the new Styx song!), I thought it was Def Leppard! The DJ said, "Stay tuned for the new Styx song." They put on Love Is the Ritual and I was like, ok I guess they are playing the new Styx song after this Def Leppard song. Nope! He came back on and said "That was the new Styx song..." and I was like, "WTF?"
Show Me The Way was just awesome and sounded as close to classic Styx as anything Styx had done in a while. The song Edge never did anything for me. Too repetitive. Thought Love At First Sight was a decent ballad and would have likely gone top 10 had A&M not dropped Styx in the middle of its climb. My favorite Glen song was AIADW - with the accordion, it felt like classic Styx. "Not Dead Yet" was ok, nothing special. The bridge of World Tonite screamed classic Styx, but not much else. Carrie Ann was an uncharacteristically weak DDY ballad, Homewrecker was awful except for the keyboard solo, which did sound like classic Styx. Finally Back To Chicago was really fun and I thought it kind of pushed the envelope a bit with all the horns. Back to that Paradise theater kind of sound. Only thing I didn't like was that the band didn't sing the chorus - so it was kind of DDY solo song in that respect.

CB - Put Me On is fun if not cheesy. Mademoiselle is pure pop sugar, but is a good tune. Jennifer is creepy "She's 17..." uh that would make it illegal...Crystal Ball is one of the best Tommy songs ever. Shooz is dated and doesn't sound like Styx. This Old Man is an underrated DDY song. Ballerina was them trying to one-up Suite Madame Blue, but it just doesn't work.

by **Abitaman** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:01 pm

I agree with a lot of what you say about CD. I had a good laugh when you mentioned Ballerina trying to one up Suite Madame Blue, I have often thought the same thing too. CB, Put Me On and SM. are the only songs I really care for off the cd.

Another thing I like about Edge it introduced me to Glen's music. I did not know who he was before then. I have been buying his music ever since.

by **masque** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:41 am

i have always liked edge.....and even though I am a tommy bathwater guy, I fully accepted glen into the fold when edge was released. i thought that glen's tunes on edge were by far the best tunes and made the album.

a few of them and that album as a whole doesnt hold up for me as well these days. the two best songs on the album for me after all these years are "all in a day's work" and "not dead yet".

as for CB, I think tommy's debut into styx was amazing. the song CB is a styx staple and I have always been surprised by the amount of causal fans that know and love that song, even though it was never a billboard hit.

mademoiselle i think is one of the best styx songs ever......it easily makes my personal greatest hits package.

i dont get the dislike of shooz at all......killer rocker, the vocal performance on that song still gives me chills. the song sounds great, the guitar tones were fantastic and the slide solo was spot on great. i think it's a forgotten gem in the catalog. i wish the current band would dust it off and play it every once in a while.

by **Abitaman** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:50 pm

masque wrote:
i dont get the dislike of shooz at all......killer rocker, the vocal performance on that song still gives me chills.

That song gives me the chills too, but not in a good way. I can not put my finger on it, but it doesn't mesh. The vocals seemed canned and hollow. I do like the slide guitar work in it, but not enough to save the song.

by **FormerDJMike** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:10 am

Still love Edge. It is the first Styx album I was able to buy on release day. I bought it on CD, cassette and record from 3 different stores. Only Record Bar in the mall had the vinyl version. Saw them twice on this tour in Chicago and Milwaukee when they were still doing the StyxCons back in the early 90's. Was a lot of fun and got to meet a lot of fans from the snail-mail newsletter. I'm still a huge fan of this album, I haven't played it in a while but when I do I listen to it for a week or two on end. It's the time of year to pull this one back out.

by **Archetype** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:38 am

Love At First Sight is one of my all time favorite Styx songs.

by **GrandIllusionist725** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:58 am

I love this album and is one of my favorites. Love at First Sight is a personal favorite, pretty much everything from Side One. I thought Love is the Ritual was an awesome opener to a new era for Styx.

This album turned me on to Glens other music too. Heroes & Zeros is one of my favorite albums to date.

by **ztyxlynne** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:17 am

When this album came out I was hoping that Styx was going to have there Heart, or Aerosmith moment. I really thought that if those 70s bands could make it huge Styx could with all there talent.

I love this album. I too have become a huge Glen fan because of thia album. I just don't think it got the push it deserved. All the songs but Homewrecker are awesome.

by **FormerDJMike** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:22 pm

ztyxlynne wrote:When this album came out I was hoping that Styx was going to have there Heart, or Aerosmith moment. I really thought that if those 70s bands could make it huge Styx could with all there talent.

I love this album. I too have become a huge Glen fan because of thia album. I just don't think it got the push it deserved. All the songs but Homewrecker are awesome.

I think when this came out I was the only die-hard Styx fan who knew who Glen was. I saw the video on MTV for Follow You and our local radio station played the song when it was released. I bought it just because Neal Schon played guitar on it. Love that Heroes & Zeroes cassette! Then when they announced the "new guy" I thought "Wow, I know him, I have his album!". Then I heard them on Rockline and I WISH I still had the tape of them on Rockline, it was a great, great interview.

by **gr8dane** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:10 am

My least favourite Styx album. The only one I listen to is,'Not dead yet',and the only one to be found on my I-Pod.
The rest? I'll pass.

by **yogi** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:22 am

I LOVED the Edge of the Century album and tour.

Side 1 of that album was utterly fantastic!!!

by **Abitaman** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:08 am

I really like the tour too. Seeing Glen onstage was fun. He covered Tommy's songs a lot better than Larry does, as far as sounding like the original singer.

by **Toph** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:43 am

yogi wrote:I LOVED the Edge of the Century album and tour.

Side 1 of that album was utterly fantastic!!!

Side 1 was strong with Show Me The Way, LAFS, and AIADW. LITR and EOTC sound quite dated today.

by **masque** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:36 am

Abitaman wrote:I really like the tour too. Seeing Glen onstage was fun. He covered Tommy's songs a lot better than Larry does, as far as sounding like the original singer.

i was totally fine with styx carrying on and having glen in the band.....it was better than them sitting at home.

but because I am a huge tommy fan, I can tell you that glen singing the tommy songs sounded just as weak and as bad as how many folks feel about larry singing DDY songs.

i'm not slamming either, because I think they both did the best they could do, and they had massive shoes to fill.....point being is, that rarely, does a replacement guy ever satisfy those that loved the original guy.

when you consider replacement singers like;

john elefante
arnell penada
kelly hansen

those three guys sound freaky good singing like the original singers, but even they are still haunted by not being the original guy.

so when you take guys like larry and glen, who were never brought in to sound like the original guys to begin with then it really makes it difficult for them to satisfy the die hards.

by **Boomchild** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:09 am

masque wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I really like the tour too. Seeing Glen onstage was fun. He covered Tommy's songs a lot better than Larry does, as far as sounding like the original singer.

i was totally fine with styx carrying on and having glen in the band.....it was better than them sitting at home.

but because I am a huge tommy fan, I can tell you that glen singing the tommy songs sounded just as weak and as bad as how many folks feel about larry singing DDY songs.

i'm not slamming either, because I think they both did the best they could do, and they had massive shoes to fill.....point being is, that rarely, does a replacement guy ever satisfy those that loved the original guy.

when you consider replacement singers like;

john elefante
arnell penada
kelly hansen

those three guys sound freaky good singing like the original singers, but even they are still haunted by not being the original guy.

so when you take guys like larry and glen, who were never brought in to sound like the original guys to begin with then it really makes it difficult for them to satisfy the die hards.

It also makes it harder when the person they are replacing was a driving force in the band and not just a singer.

by **Monker** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:57 pm

Boomchild wrote:
masque wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I really like the tour too. Seeing Glen onstage was fun. He covered Tommy's songs a lot better than Larry does, as far as sounding like the original singer.

i was totally fine with styx carrying on and having glen in the band.....it was better than them sitting at home.

but because I am a huge tommy fan, I can tell you that glen singing the tommy songs sounded just as weak and as bad as how many folks feel about larry singing DDY songs.

i'm not slamming either, because I think they both did the best they could do, and they had massive shoes to fill.....point being is, that rarely, does a replacement guy ever satisfy those that loved the original guy.

when you consider replacement singers like;

john elefante
arnell penada
kelly hansen

those three guys sound freaky good singing like the original singers, but even they are still haunted by not being the original guy.

so when you take guys like larry and glen, who were never brought in to sound like the original guys to begin with then it really makes it difficult for them to satisfy the die hards.

It also makes it harder when the person they are replacing was a driving force in the band and not just a singer.

Ah, so you have many examples of singers who were not a "driving force in the band" being replaced and the band continuing on with much success and not being 'haunted by the original guy?"

I can only think of one. Jimi Jamison in Survivor. The normal answers would be AC/DC and Van Halen...but I would say those singers were definitely driving forces in their respective bands.

by **Toph** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:20 am

At this point it's easier to count which bands still have their original lead singer than those that don't. Too many don't have the voices that led them in their hey-day. And that's a shame.

by **yogi** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:06 am

Pablo Cruise, Head East and Vanilla Fudge are still going strong with all original members

by **scarab** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:26 am

John Schlitt is back with Head East? :shock:

Oh and you cant forget Andy Avery was their singer too. :lol:

by **yogi** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:02 am

They performed 'Flat as a Pancake' and Pablo Cruise performed 'Worlds Away' in their entirety.

This is how these classic albums were meant to be heard!!

by **Monker** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:03 am

scarab wrote:John Schlitt is back with Head East?

Oh and you cant forget Andy Avery was their singer too.

Andy Avery was probably with both Styx and the DDY band, at the same time.

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