[Interview] Dennis DeYoung with Pete Pardo

[SuiteMadameBlue]

For one last time: The “Voice of Styx” was never a part of Dennis’s lawsuit so Monker/Sean shut up and get back in your car. Those terms are never mentioned in the suit. Ever. Show everyone here where it mentions that, anyone?

There is no such entity as Styx inc. nor has there ever been. Please all posters on this forum stop using that term as if it has any meaning. It does not.

Dennis’s lawsuit was about the misuse of the trademark Styx. The 1990 agreement said they all must agree on whatever decisions are being made. Hence the suit! And then only after they slandered him on BTM. Styx was unavailable for comment to the press after the suit, and to Dennis.

It was not a civil suit.

It was filed in federal court for trademark misuse.

The often misquoted 1990 agreement stipulated that all 5 members must agree on all decisions regarding the use of the trademark STYX.
https://www.pollstar.com/article/dennis ... ates-10744

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/st ... 635&page=1
Dennis wants reconciliation and they stone walled him and stole the name while he was sick. Two Man Band. Alpha dog 2 Two being the important number. Where is Chuck?

https://www.grunge.com/218956/the-real- ... left-styx/ Sent from my iPad

https://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,7029
Again. The 1990 agreement meant all members must be in agreement can you read. Does that make him a dictator? Of course not. Just the opposite.

Why bring that up, those issues were 27 years old and in no way relevant to what they did 96 97 or the start of BNW only after he got sick and asked for a tour postponement did they become an issue. They lied to the fan base and split it into waring factions.
They are despicable.

https://people.com/celebrity/styx-stuck-with-suit/

[Monker]

Judge Judy speaks. “Basically”, you say. Are you studying legal terms with “man in car”.

No, I am summing things up for people who are like you and ignorant of what these terms mean. YOU don't know what you are talking about.

There was a lawsuit by Dennis and then a counter suit by them so both parties needed to come to terms.

Basically, that is untrue. They could have let the judge decide. Styx was willing to do that. Dennis wasn't...and he is the one who started it!

If they knew Dennis would lose as you claim, why the summary judgement, why not got to trial.

Basically, Dennis OBVIOUSLY did not have the evidence to prove his case. Styx' attorney saw this and felt the judge would give them a summary judgement to end things. Why spend months in court when the band wanted to tour and be active and not sit in some limbo the way Dennis wanted? There was no need.

Because Styx didn’t want to risk jurors deciding Dennis’s worth to the band is why.

LOL. You do realize that the judge has to approve the summary judgement - the judge has to see that the evidence is so one sided that there is only one possible outcome. Basically, Styx was willing to put the entire case into the judges hand. But, Dennis signed a settlement that caved on almost anything. Basically, the question you should ask yourself is why Dennis signed a settlement like that then went home and cried.

Summary judgements are very expensive.

If there’s a trial the jury here’s these questions.
Did dennis sing and write 7 of their 8 top ten hits?
Was he sick when he was replaced?
Did Styx tour for a year and a half using the Styx name and not pay him anything?
Was he a founding member?
Did he write more songs than all other members combined?
Did he sing the most songs?
Does plaintiff $haw have ownership to the name Styx?

Regarding Styx on BTM . Mr. $haw your argument is you objected to his writing the hit Mr. Roboto and the Billboard number 1 People Choice Award million seller Babe? Is that correct? Same question to Young and Panozzo. You are under oath.
Mr. $haw did you quit the band in 1983?
And Mr. $haw in 1979 did you threaten to quit if the song First Time was released? Correct. Was it released. No. Oh so you’re the dictator.

Question to Tommy and JY, I see your argument is Dennis was a dictator? And he forced you to record music you didn’t like. How? Did he physically threaten you, blackmail, or weave magic potions?
How did Dennis actually control the band, by what means.
Wasn’t he kicked out in 1980, how is that control?

Basically, all of this would be objected to and not allowed because it does NOT speak to the validity of the 1990 agreement.

It’s always Dennis’s way or the highway. And yet Dennis is on the highway and $haw is now the dictator.

And, when he doesn't get his way he cries like a baby and whines about it for decades. THAT is a control freak. He CAN'T STAND not being in control of Styx.

No one wanted a trial they are very unpredictable.

Dennis should have came to that conclusion BEFORE he sued Styx over made up bullshit.

They ended up having to pay Dennis a percentage, something they had been refusing to do

I have basically said this several times.

For this he gave up ownership to the name.

Bullshit. That is the most ridiculous thing you have said so far. The fact that he was part owner of the name meant that Styx had to pay him. This lawsuit went INCREDIBLY bad if he signed a settlement where he was owed money and had to give up ownership of the trademark to get it....the very thing that is the reason they owed him money.

He gave up ownership because Styx fired him. He was paid because they owed him money. He signed the settlement to end this disaster before it got any worse.

I suppose he could have chosen to retain ownership of the name and never get paid. That’s an option. They forced the lawsuit by not paying him then slandered him for 21 years.

That was NOT the only issue in the lawsuit, and you know it. Basically, he sued to stop Styx from touring. He failed and in the process lost his ownership rights in the Styx trademark. Wonder how much he cried over that one.

[Monker]

For one last time: The “Voice of Styx” was never a part of Dennis’s lawsuit so Monker/Sean shut up and get back in your car. Those terms are never mentioned in the suit. Ever. Show everyone here where it mentions that, anyone?

I didn't say it was part of Dennis' lawsuit. I said Styx counter sued Dennis over him touring as "The Voice of Styx".

There is no such entity as Styx inc. nor has there ever been. Please all posters on this forum stop using that term as if it has any meaning. It does not.

Well, StyxGuy is the one who said it....where did that information come from? ​He seems to know how to look up certain documents...something you don't seem to know how to do.

What about Gelderdisk, does that not exist, either?

T

Dennis’s lawsuit was about the misuse of the trademark Styx. The 1990 agreement said they all must agree on whatever decisions are being made. Hence the suit! And then only after they slandered him on BTM. Styx was unavailable for comment to the press after the suit, and to Dennis.

It was not a civil suit.

It was filed in federal court for trademark misuse.

The often misquoted 1990 agreement stipulated that all 5 members must agree on all decisions regarding the use of the trademark STYX.
https://www.pollstar.com/article/dennis ... ates-10744

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/st ... 635&page=1
Dennis wants reconciliation and they stone walled him and stole the name while he was sick. Two Man Band. Alpha dog 2 Two being the important number. Where is Chuck?

https://www.grunge.com/218956/the-real- ... left-styx/ Sent from my iPad

https://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,7029
Again. The 1990 agreement meant all members must be in agreement can you read. Does that make him a dictator? Of course not. Just the opposite.

Why bring that up, those issues were 27 years old and in no way relevant to what they did 96 97 or the start of BNW only after he got sick and asked for a tour postponement did they become an issue. They lied to the fan base and split it into waring factions.
They are despicable.

https://people.com/celebrity/styx-stuck-with-suit/

Wow, basically, you are saying Dennis was idiot to settle. Golly, look at all of this "stuff" you are posting. You would think the 1990 agreement actually applied which it obviously didn't or Styx would not have filed for summary judgement and Dennis would not have settled and went home crying like a baby. Oh, the salty tears of losing your band over a lawsuit YOU started and a settlement YOU signed. Those must be some pretty salty tears...so salty they last for 20yrs.

[Archetype]

Lawrence gets along brilliantly with everyone in the band. Why would they remove him from the equation? This argument is pointless.

[ChicagoSTYX]

Lawrence gets along brilliantly with everyone in the band. Why would they remove him from the equation? This argument is pointless.

Agree.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Lawrence gets along brilliantly with everyone in the band. Why would they remove him from the equation? This argument is pointless.

Agree.

I agree as well. I always make sure I get along with my boss.
$haw Inc.

[Monker]

Let's say Queen B. is right and Tommy has been the king of Styx for the past 22 years.

He has given us:
Cyclorama
One With Everything
Big Bang Theory
Regeneration I & II
Grand Illuion & Pieces of 8 CD and BluRay
The Mission
Crash of the Crown

Many live recordings and new "singles" released on some of them.
Touring every year for the past 20yrs.
A happy band that hasn't changed since Glen left.

That's what it means to have Tommy as King of Styx. I'll take that.

Hail to the King, baby!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqq11H ... abinitiocz

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Let's say Queen B. is right and Tommy has been the king of Styx for the past 22 years.

He has given us:
Cyclorama
One With Everything
Big Bang Theory
Regeneration I & II
Grand Illuion & Pieces of 8 CD and BluRay
The Mission
Crash of the Crown

Many live recordings and new "singles" released on some of them.
Touring every year for the past 20yrs.
A happy band that hasn't changed since Glen left.

That's what it means to have Tommy as King of Styx. I'll take that.

Hail to the King, baby!

The truth is finally written!
The number one BATHWATER DRINKER, CADDY AND TOMMY’S BALL WASHER has finally spoken the truth. All of his other posts have been meaningless, just like him. It’s not about Dennis and never has been, it’s his $haw worship. BATHWATER BOY.

Man in car says “$haw has given us”, as if no one else was involved in any of it which is exactly what he accuses Dennis of. He admits Tommy is King which is a dictator simply by blood.

Here’s what $haw has given us and certainly not by himself.

6 songwriters on Cyclorama including Billy Bob! Ha ha ha.
5 on the Mission
Only 2 songs written solely by the KING

No need to discuss personal musical taste that’s not the issue it’s idol worship.

Regenerations. This was an attempt to create new masters for future monies. The band went 14 years without new music. Dennis went 8.

GI and PO8 dvd doesn’t even exist without Dennis‘s music, concepts and talents as well as the others.

“Many live recordings” many here on this forum who support Tommy’s band have pointed out that were “way too many” of these.

“A happy band”. Laughable. Upon penalty of death never let the King know you are unhappy.
Ask Glen or Keith Marks, $haw Inc. rules the realm. I wonder who’s next.

“A happy band that hasn’t changed since Glen left” is a lie. Will E. Is now onstage. $haw inc. aka “The King” has decreed it. JY answers yes your majesty.

All their live recordings have contained Dennis’s songs, even the latest has MR. ROBOTO.
MR. ROBOTO, save your breath we know “this one rocks”. Ha ha ha.
Without his songs there will be no live albums. Dennis’s most successful live DVD contains only his songs, with one co write.

And all this “so called” success was accomplished with the advantage of the Styx brand, Universal Music Group the worlds biggest record company and the use of the trademark STYX for touring since 1999.
No $haw $tyx album has sold any where near gold which is 5000,000. Total sales for all 3 albums of original material that they have released combined in the last 22 years are approximately 160,000
This includes Cyclorama, Mission and COTC. Thus far COTC has sold app. 15,000.
CYCLORAMA has sold less than BNW.
CYCLORAMA HAS SOLD LESS THAN BNW!
All caps with an exclamation point! Holy cow.

Dennis In the same time period without the power of the brand (that he helped make valuable) or a major record company he has recorded 3 albums of new music.

Dennis DeYoung Soundstage DVD raises over 2.5 million dollars for PBS Nationwide pledges. There were no actual sales because Dennis donated everything.

Dennis DeYoung and the music of Styx Live in L.A. DVD and CD sold 20,000.
It has 1.2 million views on YouTube more than any full live concert of Styx other than RTP. RTP of course has Dennis performing. Dennis’s Live in LA also received a national PBS pledge due to the success of his symphony show.

Dennis DeYoung and the Music of Styx live with Symphony Orchestra dvd and cd.
Canadian platinum cd 110,000 sold
DVD 3 times platinum. 30,000. Sold
All songs written by Dennis

100 Years From Now. 35,000 sold
It had a #1 hit in Quebec on 3 formats Pop, Rock and AC.
All songs written by Dennis

26 East Vol I
11 songs 6 were written by Dennis and 5 by DeYoung and Peterik

26 East Vol II
7 written by Dennis 5 DeYoung and Peterik.

Since being removed from $tyx Dennis has written 24 songs by himself for his rock albums. This does not include 20 songs written for the 101 Dalmatians tour.

The “King” has written 2 by himself. He had at least 3 songs per record when Dennis was involved except PT, there he had 2 and a third. No wonder he likes Will.


Styx. Under Dennis’s leadership.

STYX II Gold
EQUINOX. 2.5 platinum
CRYSTAL BALL. Gold nearly platinum
GI. 3times platinum plus
PO8. 3 times platinum plus
CORNERSTONE. 3 times platinum plus
PARADISE THEATER. 3 times platinum plus.
KILROY IS HERE 2 times platinum
EDGE OF THE CENTURY. Gold
RETURN TO PARADISE Gold
30 million sold

From 2003 till 2021 all new music sales under “THE KING” total approximately 160,000 sold. Total
Long live the KING and his “Emperor’s Clothes and to his court jesters make keep making us chuckle and do his highnesses bidding. Highnesses nice. Queen B has spoken.

The last Styx recording to reach gold and have a Billboard charted single was RTP and Paradise produced by Dennis.

[Monker]

Let's say Queen B. is right and Tommy has been the king of Styx for the past 22 years.

He has given us:
Cyclorama
One With Everything
Big Bang Theory
Regeneration I & II
Grand Illuion & Pieces of 8 CD and BluRay
The Mission
Crash of the Crown

Many live recordings and new "singles" released on some of them.
Touring every year for the past 20yrs.
A happy band that hasn't changed since Glen left.

That's what it means to have Tommy as King of Styx. I'll take that.

Hail to the King, baby!

The truth is finally written!
The number one BATHWATER DRINKER, CADDY AND TOMMY’S BALL WASHER has finally spoken the truth. All of his other posts have been meaningless, just like him. It’s not about Dennis and never has been, it’s his $haw worship. BATHWATER BOY.

Man in car says “$haw has given us”, as if no one else was involved in any of it which is exactly what he accuses Dennis of. He admits Tommy is King which is a dictator simply by blood.

The FIRST SENTENCE you quoted above reads, "Let's say Queen B. is right and Tommy has been the king of Styx for the past 22 years."

You are so filled with jealousy and hatred that your mind skips over such things and starts making up lies and bullshit to justify your own opinions. YOU are the one calling Tommy a dictator. All I did is make up a hypothetical and say you were right...and then listed all the stuff that Lord Tommy brought to the fans. It's good to be king...when you produce awesome albums without constant drama that eventually breaks up the band.

It's not so good when you are a Captain Dunsel who leads band members to punching glass and his own firing.

[ChicagoSTYX]

In an interview I read yesterday LG said Styx has started writing for the next album. With the success of the last 2 albums the band is on a roll like they have not seen since the 70s. and early 80s. They have no intention of stopping now. They have a very happy record company! Queen B better hurry up and listen to COTC before the next album is released.

[Monker]

In an interview I read yesterday LG said Styx has started writing for the next album. With the success of the last 2 albums the band is on a roll like they have not seen since the 70s. and early 80s. They have no intention of stopping now. They have a very happy record company! Queen B better hurry up and listen to COTC before the next album is released.

That's great news...I was hoping they would keep doing new releases. They are in a great place right now.

What would be really cool is if they could get something new on a soundtrack.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

It's not so good when you are a Captain Dunsel who leads band members to punching glass and his own firing.

That's what it means to have Tommy as King of Styx. I'll take that.
Hail to the King, baby!

Fact BATHWATER BOY.
Caddies and Ball -washers do what ball-washers do. Make excuses and shift blame to protect their idols.

$haw quit Styx on June 18th. It wasn’t until the Fourth of July hiatus when he chose to wrap a jacket around his arm and try to break through a sliding glass door. A sliding glass door!
He said he had forgotten his keys and was in Palm Springs. He’s admitted doing this in an altered state of mind. What was not reported was;
Dennis stood behind him the whole time with a loaded gun warning him to either break in or be shot. Ha ha ha ha. Chuck later mentioned that Dennis had done the same thing to him and JY that same day in Chicago which is why he later voted with Shaw and Young to remove Dennis 26 years later.
Maybe Sammy Hagar made him do it? Everyone is to blame except THE KING.

[Monker]

It's not so good when you are a Captain Dunsel who leads band members to punching glass and his own firing.

Fact BATHWATER BOY.
Caddies and Ball -washers do what ball-washers do. Make excuses and shift blame to protect their idols.

Dude, you are the one who either can't read, chooses not to, or has some mental issue and forgets what they read as soon as they start thinking of your reply.

$haw quit Styx on June 18th. It wasn’t until the Fourth of July hiatus when he chose to wrap a jacket around his arm and try to break through a sliding glass door. A sliding glass door!
He said he had forgotten his keys and was in Palm Springs. He’s admitted doing this in an altered state of mind. What was not reported was;
Dennis stood behind him the whole time with a loaded gun warning him to either break in or be shot. Ha ha ha ha. Chuck later mentioned that Dennis had done the same thing to him and JY that same day in Chicago which is why he later voted with Shaw and Young to remove Dennis 26 years later.
Maybe Sammy Hagar made him do it? Everyone is to blame except THE KING.

Don't care. Dennis is no longer in the band and none of this drama exists any longer. THAT is the FACT that matters most to me.

And, where is your proof of how many copies of CotC sold? Or, are you just making stuff up?

And, like I said, calling Tommy a dictator, or king, or the leader of Styx, is fine by me. It's good to be king. The direction they are going now is OUTSTANDING. *MUCH* better than any time since 1981.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

It's not so good when you are a Captain Dunsel who leads band members to punching glass and his own firing.

Fact BATHWATER BOY.
Caddies and Ball -washers do what ball-washers do. Make excuses and shift blame to protect their idols.

Dude, you are the one who either can't read, chooses not to, or has some mental issue and forgets what they read as soon as they start thinking of your reply.

$haw quit Styx on June 18th. It wasn’t until the Fourth of July hiatus when he chose to wrap a jacket around his arm and try to break through a sliding glass door. A sliding glass door!
He said he had forgotten his keys and was in Palm Springs. He’s admitted doing this in an altered state of mind. What was not reported was;
Dennis stood behind him the whole time with a loaded gun warning him to either break in or be shot. Ha ha ha ha. Chuck later mentioned that Dennis had done the same thing to him and JY that same day in Chicago which is why he later voted with Shaw and Young to remove Dennis 26 years later.
Maybe Sammy Hagar made him do it? Everyone is to blame except THE KING.

Don't care. Dennis is no longer in the band and none of this drama exists any longer. THAT is the FACT that matters most to me.

And, where is your proof of how many copies of CotC sold? Or, are you just making stuff up?

And, like I said, calling Tommy a dictator, or king, or the leader of Styx, is fine by me. It's good to be king. The direction they are going now is OUTSTANDING. *MUCH* better than any time since 1981.

That's what it means to have Tommy as King of Styx. I'll take that.
Hail to the King, baby!

The sales for COTC are correct. As always you know nothing.

BATHWATER BOY doubles down on his belief that it’s great if Tommy’s a tyrant, King or the dictator. Exposing his ridiculous idolization of $haw. He’s a trolling fraud. In his world St. $haw can do no wrong.
He clearly suggested that Dennis was somehow responsible for $haw’s out of control behavior when he tried to break through a sliding glass door with a jacket around his arm. Locksmith anyone. This action caused the cancellation of 2 months worth of shows and money was lost. This self destructive behavior then led to the demise of our favorite band. Ball Washers unite. Hail to the King, baby.

[Monker]

The sales for COTC are correct. As always you know nothing.

Dude, you are claiming something that is not public knowledge, as far as I know. Post the proof of the numbers, otherwise you sound like you are just full of shit.

BATHWATER BOY doubles down on his belief that it’s great if Tommy’s a tyrant, King or the dictator. Exposing his ridiculous idolization of $haw. He’s a trolling fraud. In his world St. $haw can do no wrong.

All I am saying is that if YOU want to credit Tommy for everything that has happened since Dennis signed away his rights to the Styx name, then I am fine with that. I *MUCH* prefer 2000 - 2021 to 1982 - 1999. The current band is doing an awesome job.