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Postby Chaz » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:30 am

Tara's Secret wnat to open up for the almighty Styx in June in the UK. Tommy, you let Tenacious D hijack Cyclorama through "just asking" so this is Tara's Secret "just asking." What say you, oh melodious one ??
Calling all melodic rock fans, Tara's Secret is here and making beautiful rocking music for everyone. Climb on board www.taras-secret.com
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Postby DarrenUK » Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:32 am

BILLY SQUIRE OR NELSON HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ......I HAVE EMAILED TOMMY TO PLEAD FOR NIGHTRANGER OR DARE.
BUT GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR QUEST.
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Postby Chaz » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:04 am

Hi Darren

Billy Squire ? He'll make JY look Young !!

Nelson would be a good choice, very melodic, loads of harmonies, but to a UK audience there should be a chance to promote what we can do too, and Tara's Secret wouldn't be found wanting.
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Postby styxmike » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:25 am

seeing as N Schon is over in may with Soul Sirkus, why can't he come back in june with the rest of the Journey boys as guests of Styx, now that would be a double bill eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby stevebuk1 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:31 am

DarrenUK wrote:BILLY SQUIRE OR NELSON HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ......I HAVE EMAILED TOMMY TO PLEAD FOR NIGHTRANGER OR DARE.
BUT GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR QUEST.


saw nelson support styx in new york last year...so.so.

nightranger would be the ultimate !!!
saw them friday in connecticut. amazing !! met the guys after the show.will post the pics soon.gave brad an england shirt. he gave me his guitar strings/pick !!!

the best live band ever !!!!!!

p.s. are you the darren who was at the heart shows ?????
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Postby froy » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:39 am

styxmike wrote:seeing as N Schon is over in may with Soul Sirkus, why can't he come back in june with the rest of the Journey boys as guests of Styx, now that would be a double bill eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No thanks no more JRNY Styx please
I want to see Journey,
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:06 am

No thanks no more JRNY Styx please
I want to see Journey,


What do you care? Are you going to the UK to see Journey? Since Styx has toured the UK/Europe in the past, they may be more popular then Journey anyways...Who knows, Journey may be the choice for the opening band over there.
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Postby Adam » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:10 am

Froy, you're the guy who comes onto the Styx board to ask that Styx NOT play.

And now you must excuse me, I must now go over to the Bon Jovi board and request that they stop touring.

(makes as much sense)
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:10 am

Monker wrote:What do you care? Are you going to the UK to see Journey? Since Styx has toured the UK/Europe in the past, they may be more popular then Journey anyways...Who knows, Journey may be the choice for the opening band over there.


Fake Journey and Fake Styx are the perfect combination.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:15 am

Adam wrote:Froy, you're the guy who comes onto the Styx board to ask that Styx NOT play.

And now you must excuse me, I must now go over to the Bon Jovi board and request that they stop touring.

(makes as much sense)


Hilarious that someone who champions this incarnation of Styx is so bitter about Bon Jovi.

I guess Bon Jovi doesn't have enough significant replacement members for you to jump on their bandwagon.

Sorry to break it to you, but Bon Jovi blows away the band currently calling itself Styx.... even on a bad day.

At least Bon Jovi is still writing relevent music.
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Postby Adam » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:56 am

P.S. I have no particular problem with Bon Jovi, I was using the comparison SARCASTICALLY to show the silliness and pointlessness of posting negative comments on a web board about the very group the web board is about.

...but then I supose that wouldn't strike YOU as ridiculous, ItsMyLife!
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:13 am

Adam wrote:P.S. I have no particular problem with Bon Jovi, I was using the comparison SARCASTICALLY to show the silliness and pointlessness of posting negative comments on a web board about the very group the web board is about.

...but then I supose that wouldn't strike YOU as ridiculous, ItsMyLife!


No, this board is about STYX. You know the band who's primary songwriter, producer and arranger was named Dennis DeYoung.

What is happening now is completely insignificant in the big picture and will quickly be forgotten by EVERYONE (accept Gowan) once this horrible chapter in the band's history is over.

And as I've said before, assclown, my name is taken from a Kiss song.
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:16 am

And as I've said before, assclown, my name is taken from a Kiss song.


yeah, the band that keeps retiring but decides it's in their better financial interest to replace members and keep touring...

And you call Styx and Journey fake? (as Dr. Evil would say) Riiiiight.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:45 am

Monker wrote:
And as I've said before, assclown, my name is taken from a Kiss song.


yeah, the band that keeps retiring but decides it's in their better financial interest to replace members and keep touring...

And you call Styx and Journey fake? (as Dr. Evil would say) Riiiiight.


Well... first off I wouldn't say I'm thrilled with the current state of Kiss, however... as I've said many many times before... some members are more replaceable than others.

And although I'd prefer Ace and Peter in the band, the fact is they aren't the PRIMARY songwriters... not to mention producer, arranger, etc... and signiture voice to top it off.

Gene and Paul were the primary creative forces in Kiss even though Peter and especially Ace brought something to the table too.

QUITE a difference.
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:10 am

QUITE a difference.


Riiiight. The difference is your "accept no sustitutes" mantra does not apply to a fake Kiss that is continously in a state of fake retirement.

It's also interesting that you would make all of these excuses for a fake Kiss but still call Journey fake when Perry was NOT the 'main" songwriter (Neal, and especialy Jonathan shared writing with Perry), Perry ONLY produced ONE Journey album (the lackluster "Raised On Radio" album), I don't think Perry 'arranged' anything, Perry was not even a founding member of the band, he has not finshed a touring oblication (solo or with Journey) since 1984. Yeah, he was the lead singer...but, as Perry himself put it, "There are two voices in the band..." (the other being Neal's guitar).

Yeah, Journey is fake without Perry....Riiiight.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:37 am

Monker wrote:Yeah, Journey is fake without Perry....Riiiight.


Pretty much. And I am not defending Kiss. It's silly what they're doing...

But they're also not replacing their primary creative force.

Journey IS fake without Perry. Especially when they get a guy that sounds just like him.

What a joke... and we're still waiting for them to write a good song post-Perry. LOL
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:01 am

Pretty much. And I am not defending Kiss. It's silly what they're doing...


Of course. They're a fake band.

But they're also not replacing their primary creative force.


Either you accept substitutions, or you don't. Make up your mind.

Journey IS fake without Perry. Especially when they get a guy that sounds just like him.


Ah, let's see....You don't accept Gowan cuz he doesn't sound enough like Dennis, you don't accept Augeri cuz he sounds too much like Perry. Make up your mind. You don't accept replacing Dennis because he was a founding member, wrote most of the songs, and produced and arranged. You don't accept Augeri even tho Perry did hardly any of those things. And, you even hesitate calling Kiss fake when they are doing the same things as Journey and Styx - and they continualy say they are going to retire, but don't. If Will Hung offered enough money, Kiss would tour with him.

You're a contradiction...even more of a contradiction then Froy.

What a joke... and we're still waiting for them to write a good song post-Perry. LOL


The joke is you being such a hypocrit and then attempting to raise feathers by a comment like the above. Why should I care what you think when you can't even be consistent on what a 'fake' band is? You say what you say from emotional spite - not based on anything logical or consistent (the same as Froy). You say things such as the above not because you don't like the songs - but because you don't like the lineup or because other people do. It has NOTHING to do with YOUR opinion...it has to do with your emotions and OTHER people's opinions that disagree with you.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:36 am

Monkey wrote:Ah, let's see....You don't accept Gowan cuz he doesn't sound enough like Dennis, you don't accept Augeri cuz he sounds too much like Perry. Make up your mind.


No, I don't accept Gowan because he ISN'T Dennis. I wouldn't care if it was Paul Fucking McCartney... it's not Styx without Dennis.

Monkey wrote:And, you even hesitate calling Kiss fake when they are doing the same things as Journey and Styx - and they continualy say they are going to retire, but don't. If Will Hung offered enough money, Kiss would tour with him.


They had one "farewell tour". They only did that because Ace fell off the wagon again and Peter's skills dimished dramatically. After the tour they got other offers to tour... they invited both Ace and Peter back but Ace opted out. Peter came back but was miserable and was let go again. They have not said they were going to retire since then.

I have been very critical of KISS using other members make-up on new members. That said, Paul and Gene have been the primary creative force for 30 years AND Ace and Peter weren't in the band longer than they were... as opposed to Dennis DeYoung and Steve Perry being the respective signature sounds of their bands. On top of that, Dennis wrote 80% of the hits... produced the band... arranged the band.

There IS a difference... not everything is black and white as much as you might like to believe so.

Would you consider John Lennon and Ringo Starr of equal importance? Of course not, but I bet you couldn't be honest and admit that in the context of this argument because if I say black, you'll say white.
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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:18 pm

not everything is black and white as much as you might like to believe so.


Just the makeup, right? :wink:


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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:35 pm

bugsymalone wrote:
not everything is black and white as much as you might like to believe so.


Just the makeup, right? :wink:


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hahaha :wink:
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:58 pm

ItsMyLife wrote:No, I don't accept Gowan because he ISN'T Dennis. I wouldn't care if it was Paul Fucking McCartney... it's not Styx without Dennis.


It's irrelevent what you "accept". The FACT is that Styx is Styx whether you like it or not. They don't need your permission to use the name...all they needed was Dennis to settle his lawsuite.

They had one "farewell tour".


LOL...When Aerosmith made an offer they pimped themselves out again. Just like the make-up....take it off for some publicity. Put it back on for some publicity. If it can make thema buck, they'll do it. What a bunch of fakes...it has nothing to do with music, just personna, attention, and who can flash the most cash.

That said, Paul and Gene have been the primary creative force for 30 years AND Ace and Peter weren't in the band longer than they were... as opposed to Dennis DeYoung and Steve Perry being the respective signature sounds of their bands. On top of that, Dennis wrote 80% of the hits... produced the band... arranged the band.


And, Journey was formed around Neal Schon. Even Perry acknowledges that the Journey sound revolved around ('danced' is how he put it) Neal's guitar voice as much as his voice. Perry was NOT the 'main writer', it was a shared duty...But, your hypocrisy still insists on calling Journey a fake band.

There IS a difference... not everything is black and white as much as you might like to believe so.


In your case, everything is plaid, so you can find whatever pattern you wish and critique whatever you wish.

Would you consider John Lennon and Ringo Starr of equal importance?


If Ringo was replaced would you go about spouting "Some people accept no substitutions!" Or, would you be a hypocrit and look at it as you do Kiss?

It seems to me that some people who say they accept no substitutions DO accept them, under such and such conditions...and they are hypocrits for critiquing other who do the same.

Besides, Ringo himself was a 'replacement', so of COURSE he is not of equal importance!

Of course not, but I bet you couldn't be honest and admit that in the context of this argument because if I say black, you'll say white.


No, you say black or white depending on what argument you want to make and what band you are talking about.
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Postby styxfanNH » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:47 pm

Monker wrote:
ItsMyLife wrote:No, I don't accept Gowan because he ISN'T Dennis. I wouldn't care if it was Paul Fucking McCartney... it's not Styx without Dennis.


It's irrelevent what you "accept". The FACT is that Styx is Styx whether you like it or not. They don't need your permission to use the name...all they needed was Dennis to settle his lawsuite.

They had one "farewell tour".


LOL...When Aerosmith made an offer they pimped themselves out again. Just like the make-up....take it off for some publicity. Put it back on for some publicity. If it can make thema buck, they'll do it. What a bunch of fakes...it has nothing to do with music, just personna, attention, and who can flash the most cash.

That said, Paul and Gene have been the primary creative force for 30 years AND Ace and Peter weren't in the band longer than they were... as opposed to Dennis DeYoung and Steve Perry being the respective signature sounds of their bands. On top of that, Dennis wrote 80% of the hits... produced the band... arranged the band.


And, Journey was formed around Neal Schon. Even Perry acknowledges that the Journey sound revolved around ('danced' is how he put it) Neal's guitar voice as much as his voice. Perry was NOT the 'main writer', it was a shared duty...But, your hypocrisy still insists on calling Journey a fake band.

There IS a difference... not everything is black and white as much as you might like to believe so.


In your case, everything is plaid, so you can find whatever pattern you wish and critique whatever you wish.

Would you consider John Lennon and Ringo Starr of equal importance?


If Ringo was replaced would you go about spouting "Some people accept no substitutions!" Or, would you be a hypocrit and look at it as you do Kiss?

It seems to me that some people who say they accept no substitutions DO accept them, under such and such conditions...and they are hypocrits for critiquing other who do the same.

Besides, Ringo himself was a 'replacement', so of COURSE he is not of equal importance!

Of course not, but I bet you couldn't be honest and admit that in the context of this argument because if I say black, you'll say white.


No, you say black or white depending on what argument you want to make and what band you are talking about.


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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:52 pm

Monker:
Dennis to settle his lawsuite.


Would that be his lawsuite madame blue???

:wink: :wink: :wink:

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Postby Adam » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:32 am

You ask haven't we been here before - yes we have time and again.

Once again the intelligent argument is victorious against overwrought, over-emotional, disrespectful, self-righteous, and offensive zealots.

Monker rules. I adore seeing LOGIC in action. Rock on dude.

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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:27 am

Adam wrote:You ask haven't we been here before - yes we have time and again.

Once again the intelligent argument is victorious against overwrought, over-emotional, disrespectful, self-righteous, and offensive zealots.

Monker rules. I adore seeing LOGIC in action. Rock on dude.

Love, Crazy


"Logic" in an argument for this line-up of Styx is an oxymoron.
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Postby Adam » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:28 am

I see no Logic in arguing AGAINST an act on a bulletin board FOR that very act. I see no logic in protesting the existence of a proven business.

I mean, why not demonstrate against the existance of KFC ever since Col Sanders sold it. It doesn't matter that people continue to buy the product, we're just against it!
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Adam wrote:I see no Logic in arguing AGAINST an act on a bulletin board FOR that very act. I see no logic in protesting the existence of a proven business.

I mean, why not demonstrate against the existance of KFC ever since Col Sanders sold it. It doesn't matter that people continue to buy the product, we're just against it!


This BB wouldn't be here if it weren't for Styx 75-83.

Nothing this line-up has done since 1999 would justify it's existence.

Now lay down and die, goodbye.
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Postby Adam » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:11 am

ItsMyLife: This BB wouldn't be here if it weren't for Styx 75-83.

Adam: Yes that's true. And this board wouldn't have near the activity it does were it not for Styx 99-Present. (P.S. As a small historical aside, Fleetwood Mac wouldn't have gotten to Lindsay Buckingham without Peter Green nor would Santana have had Black Magic Woman...but then again I know how you discount history with the exception of Styx and Kiss)

ItsMyLife: Nothing this line-up has done since 1999 would justify it's existence.

Adam: I disagree. You're so confident, but we've been hearing similar Styx 5.1 doomsday predictions for six years now...but the train just keeps on rolling, doesn't it? SOMEONE is buying the tickets, going to all those shows.

ItsMyLife: Now lay down and die, goodbye.
Adam: Why are you so threatened? Why all the anger and resentment? Why so bitter? Honestly, I get alot of that from posts by you and Froy...Chill out, would you?
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:15 am

Adam,
You should know by now that when someone resorts to the name calling, that they have nothing left to say of importance.
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