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Postby styxfansite » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:24 am

Suzanne answers more crib emails on Dennisdeyoung.com.

Here is one of the replies from her to an email not posted.



This is the first time we have ever heard or seen this site/interview. I have sent your e-mail with the information to our management department. We will ask them to have it taken down immediately. I will not print your e-mail for obvious reasons. I will however answer your questions.

NO. Dennis has never used cocaine! NEVER!

This site has apparently been put up to discredit my husband's integrity and good name!
"Come Sail Away," was written in our home during the winter months of 1977. We had just returned from Hawaii with our family. WE and I do mean WE never questioned or were tired of touring or traveling together for my husband's career. WE both had decided very early on in my husband's career, that WE would both work together, grow as a young married couple together and then as a family together, to do everything we could together, towards making my husband's career and STYX a success. That meant many sacrifices. WE were a strong family then and WE are still a strong family today.
We didn't have a lot of money after I quit work to become a full time mom. A year or so after our daughter's birth my husband and his band decided to quit their day jobs and concentrate on solely their music career. Dennis was the only married man with a child. There were not enough jobs for Dennis' income to support a family. I returned to work as our savings depleted down to $25.00.
In 1975 the band decided to leave Wooden Nickel and had an opportunity to be signed by a REAL record company. Getting out of the Wooden Nickel contact meant Dennis had to give up all current and previous royalties (I only mention previous because we NEVER received ANY royalties from Wooden Nickel EVER!) The other writers had to do the same thing. However, Dennis had the most to lose. Even though we had never received any monies, he was still OWED a great deal of money. There was never any question in our mind even though WE had no money and very little income coming in, that WE would sacrifice anything and every cent owed us, to further the bands career.
Later that year Dennis received his First ASCAP check. A very short time later, we discovered that our First manager had not paid the bands taxes (among other things!) We found this information out on the very First day that STYX was to record its First album for A & M Records. Upon arriving at the studio much to their surprise, the IRS had confiscated all the bands equipment! Again, there was never any question in our minds as to how our ASCAP check should be used. WE used to retrieve the bands' equipment. WE used it for the good of the band.
There are many more stories I can tell you about my husband's integrity and how WE always put STYX first. Perhaps someday I'll bore you by putting it ALL in a "True Story, No Lies" book. STYX was the most import thing in our life. Dennis would NEVER joke or compromise his career and that of his friends and band mates or our lives by using cocaine!
WE did not lose out on the pot of gold...WE made it happen together!


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Postby Abitaman » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:48 am

Somebody got here stirred up-ERIC
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Postby brywool » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:01 am

Wish Dennis would answer these directly...
She always comes off as Yoko to me...
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Postby Zan » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:06 am

No kidding. LOL...

Personally, I never heard any rumors that DDY did coke. Seems odd someone would ask her about that, unless they were looking for a fight.
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Postby blt man » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:22 am

I believe the website in question is a humor website with lots of fake stories. The interview was fake. Problem is that if you read the article/interview without the rest of the site, you will believe that it is a real interview. My guess is that someone read the fake interview and wrote in to the crib wondering if it was true.
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Postby Zan » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:20 pm

blt man wrote:I believe the website in question is a humor website with lots of fake stories. The interview was fake. Problem is that if you read the article/interview without the rest of the site, you will believe that it is a real interview. My guess is that someone read the fake interview and wrote in to the crib wondering if it was true.



What web site is that?
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Postby blt man » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:50 pm

Zan wrote:
blt man wrote:I believe the website in question is a humor website with lots of fake stories. The interview was fake. Problem is that if you read the article/interview without the rest of the site, you will believe that it is a real interview. My guess is that someone read the fake interview and wrote in to the crib wondering if it was true.



What web site is that?


Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/

Then the author of the site posted this: http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/disclaimer/

Its actually pretty funny.
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Postby Ash » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:09 pm

Well - just gotta understand that not everyone is as internet savvy and sometimes they fall for things. It's happened to all of us before. Just part of the learning curve. Hell I remember actually believing one or two of Yogi's humor posts back in the day (and I **know** I'm not alone there). :)
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Postby stabbim » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:10 pm

blt man wrote:Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/


Wow.

This is what prompted that long, shrill, unpleasant diatribe?

Really?

Well...Ok, then.
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Postby Zan » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:16 pm

blt man wrote:Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/

Then the author of the site posted this: http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/disclaimer/

Its actually pretty funny.



Good, good Lord. ROFL...

Is anyone reading the replies? :lol:


"September 28, 2007 at 1:59 pm UF Mike Said: I read once that Dennis experienced a real-life “alien abduction,” and that said experience constituted the “existential mulch” from which flowered what may be Styx’s finest song, “Come Sail Away.” In the same article, Dennis noted that the original lyrics went “I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise/They proceeded to probe me anally, with a large dildo” but that he dropped them because “surprise” and “dildo” didn’t rhyme. "

"September 30, 2007 at 12:07 pm Elizabeth Said: Poor, poor Dennis DeYoung, I wonder if he knows his core fan base is made up entirely of humorless morons. With fans like that, who needs enemies! "

"On September 27, 2007 at 10:50 am Evil Genius Said:
It almost seems as if you were poking fun at Dennis De Young. But that can’t be possible. We’re talking about the same Dennis De Young, right? Styx is nothing to joke about."



Wow. That's all I can say.
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Postby stmonkeys » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:16 pm

stabbim wrote:
blt man wrote:Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/


Wow.

This is what prompted that long, shrill, unpleasant diatribe?

Really?

Well...Ok, then.


really.... i can't imagine what their reaction to the Dennis DeYuck site was. alas, it is no more... gee, it makes you wonder ;)
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Postby blt man » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:17 pm

stabbim wrote:
blt man wrote:Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/


Wow.

This is what prompted that long, shrill, unpleasant diatribe?

Really?

Well...Ok, then.


I presume what prompted it was people who asked her about coke use after reading the article.
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Postby Zan » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:19 pm

Ash wrote:Well - just gotta understand that not everyone is as internet savvy and sometimes they fall for things. It's happened to all of us before. Just part of the learning curve. Hell I remember actually believing one or two of Yogi's humor posts back in the day (and I **know** I'm not alone there). :)




But...c'mon! She went completely monkey shit! LOL!



blt man wrote:I presume what prompted it was people who asked her about coke use after reading the article.



Or...reported to her after reading it.

Nah, that would never happen. 8)
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Postby Blue Falcon » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:29 am

Abitaman wrote:Somebody got her stirred up-ERIC


It was probably JY who posted the question in the first place... :P
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Postby rajah2165 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:55 am

stabbim wrote:
blt man wrote:Credit to ddytalk for this link:

http://anandamide.wordpress.com/2007/09 ... sail-away/


Wow.

This is what prompted that long, shrill, unpleasant diatribe?

Really?

Well...Ok, then.


I think it is perfectly justified. Some people care about their reputation...or at least have a reputation to protect.
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Postby stabbim » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:03 am

rajah2165 wrote:I think it is perfectly justified. Some people care about their reputation...or at least have a reputation to protect.


Some people are also capable of doing said caring and protecting while also maintaining a sense of humor, &/or perspective, &/or composure.

*shrug*
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Postby Barbara » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:10 am

Zan wrote:
But...c'mon! She went completely monkey shit! LOL!

I don't think "WE" should make such a big deal out of it! :P :lol:
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Postby rajah2165 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:33 am

stabbim wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:I think it is perfectly justified. Some people care about their reputation...or at least have a reputation to protect.


Some people are also capable of doing said caring and protecting while also maintaining a sense of humor, &/or perspective, &/or composure.

*shrug*


*Shrug* this....

The guy basically says that Styx's top song was written on a cocaine binge. How would you like that being said about your greatest work when it was completely false?
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Postby StyxCollector » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:48 am

Jeez folks. Anyone who knows anything about Styx knows he wasn't the recreational drug user or boozer in the band. I mean, in my interview with Tommy, he clearly says he wrote the lyrics he sung in "Snowblind", and there's no question it's about cocaine.

I can see, without a disclaimer, how someone could take that link seriously, but they have since added a disclaimer.
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Postby rajah2165 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:00 am

StyxCollector wrote:Jeez folks. Anyone who knows anything about Styx knows he wasn't the recreational drug user or boozer in the band. I mean, in my interview with Tommy, he clearly says he wrote the lyrics he sung in "Snowblind", and there's no question it's about cocaine.

I can see, without a disclaimer, how someone could take that link seriously, but they have since added a disclaimer.


I always wondered why Tommy didn't get a writing credit for Snowblind.

If Tommy wrote the lyrics, what did JY write? What did Dennis write?

My guess - JY wrote the upfront Pink Floyd Mirror Mirror on the wall music and DDY wrote the more mainstream sounding music "I'm SNowblind can't live without you ooooooooh oooh oooh"
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Postby Barbara » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:33 pm

rajah2165 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:Jeez folks. Anyone who knows anything about Styx knows he wasn't the recreational drug user or boozer in the band. I mean, in my interview with Tommy, he clearly says he wrote the lyrics he sung in "Snowblind", and there's no question it's about cocaine.

I can see, without a disclaimer, how someone could take that link seriously, but they have since added a disclaimer.


I always wondered why Tommy didn't get a writing credit for Snowblind.

If Tommy wrote the lyrics, what did JY write? What did Dennis write?

My guess - JY wrote the upfront Pink Floyd Mirror Mirror on the wall music and DDY wrote the more mainstream sounding music "I'm SNowblind can't live without you ooooooooh oooh oooh"

Wow! That info is all so amazing. Where are your "disclaimers"? :wink: Whoever had a hand in "Snowblind", it is another one of my favorites! :D
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Postby StyxCollector » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:44 pm

rajah2165 wrote:I always wondered why Tommy didn't get a writing credit for Snowblind.

If Tommy wrote the lyrics, what did JY write? What did Dennis write?

My guess - JY wrote the upfront Pink Floyd Mirror Mirror on the wall music and DDY wrote the more mainstream sounding music "I'm SNowblind can't live without you ooooooooh oooh oooh"


TS said the crediting system in Styx was screwy back in the day. TS clearly wrote his lyrics in that song - and it's in my interview as such. Please don't speculate on fact.

Having said that, I wouldn't doubt JY came up with the lyrics to his stuff, but I think a lot of the arrangement - especially the vocal harmonies - were Dennis. The source material wasn't exactly DDY's forte, but his touch is all over that song.
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Postby Rockwriter » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:34 pm

StyxCollector wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:I always wondered why Tommy didn't get a writing credit for Snowblind.

If Tommy wrote the lyrics, what did JY write? What did Dennis write?

My guess - JY wrote the upfront Pink Floyd Mirror Mirror on the wall music and DDY wrote the more mainstream sounding music "I'm SNowblind can't live without you ooooooooh oooh oooh"


TS said the crediting system in Styx was screwy back in the day. TS clearly wrote his lyrics in that song - and it's in my interview as such. Please don't speculate on fact.

Having said that, I wouldn't doubt JY came up with the lyrics to his stuff, but I think a lot of the arrangement - especially the vocal harmonies - were Dennis. The source material wasn't exactly DDY's forte, but his touch is all over that song.



I remember hearing an interview with DDY and JY, I think it was In the Studio with Red Beard for Paradise Theatre, and Dennis actually stated, "Tommy also played an important part in that song" when they were discussing he and JY writing it. Of course, keeping in mind that Dennis was vehemently anti-cocaine, so for him that song would have represented a chance to say something that, though not a part of his personal experience, was still very close to his heart and much on his mind at that time. Tommy's personal slant on the subject is what made him such a great choice to sing that song, as well. Imagine Dennis or JY singing that part, it just wouldn't be remotely the same.


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Postby cittadeeno23 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:11 am

Snowblind, to me, is one of Styx' signature songs. Basically it's one of the songs that makes me love Styx so much. They all clearly worked on it, so it wasn't just one guy coming to the table with a song, and you can hear all 3 voices all over that tune. The vocals, and guitar work are incredible. And the Keyboards are erie and really cool.
I remember buying Paradise Theatre the day it came out, of course. And I must have played Snowblind 25 times that first day. I loved it the first time I heard it. It stood out to me instantly.
I still have that LP in a closet and if you look at it you can tell I completely wore it out.

Plus I love when Styx trades off lead vocals in a song. I just wish they would have done that more often. They had more vocal talent then most other bands and I just loved when they showed off their talent. Songs with intense harmonies like Snowblind, Renegade or Love in the Midnight always blew me away. I used to comment that these guys were So friggin good that they Must be showing off!
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Re: Snowblind

Postby bugsymalone » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:07 am

cittadeeno23 wrote:Snowblind, to me, is one of Styx' signature songs. Basically it's one of the songs that makes me love Styx so much. They all clearly worked on it, so it wasn't just one guy coming to the table with a song, and you can hear all 3 voices all over that tune. The vocals, and guitar work are incredible. And the Keyboards are erie and really cool.
I remember buying Paradise Theatre the day it came out, of course. And I must have played Snowblind 25 times that first day. I loved it the first time I heard it. It stood out to me instantly.
I still have that LP in a closet and if you look at it you can tell I completely wore it out.

Plus I love when Styx trades off lead vocals in a song. I just wish they would have done that more often. They had more vocal talent then most other bands and I just loved when they showed off their talent. Songs with intense harmonies like Snowblind, Renegade or Love in the Midnight always blew me away. I used to comment that these guys were So friggin good that they Must be showing off!


While I am not a huge fan of this song, I surely do agree about their harmonies. I still think Styx had the very best harmonies of any group, ever. Incredible.


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Postby rajah2165 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:25 am

StyxCollector wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:I always wondered why Tommy didn't get a writing credit for Snowblind.

If Tommy wrote the lyrics, what did JY write? What did Dennis write?

My guess - JY wrote the upfront Pink Floyd Mirror Mirror on the wall music and DDY wrote the more mainstream sounding music "I'm SNowblind can't live without you ooooooooh oooh oooh"


TS said the crediting system in Styx was screwy back in the day. TS clearly wrote his lyrics in that song - and it's in my interview as such. Please don't speculate on fact.

Having said that, I wouldn't doubt JY came up with the lyrics to his stuff, but I think a lot of the arrangement - especially the vocal harmonies - were Dennis. The source material wasn't exactly DDY's forte, but his touch is all over that song.


Dude stop playing the holier than thou art card...So you interviewed TS...Big Freakin Deal.
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Styx had the very best harmonies of any group

Postby cittadeeno23 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:27 am

I agree with that 100%. I still get blown away 30 years later.
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Postby stabbim » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:16 am

rajah2165 wrote:The guy basically says that Styx's top song was written on a cocaine binge.


It. Was. A. Joke. And a throwaway joke, at that. Be offended by the joke or not, but it takes a special combination of hubris and paranoia to read that piece and believe that it has "apparently been put up to discredit [DDY's] integrity and good name!"

rajah2165 wrote:How would you like that being said about your greatest work when it was completely false?


In a context that harmless? I wouldn't really care. But even if it was something that I did find offensive, I believe that there are much better ways to deal with it than the example we see in this thread's first post.
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Postby rajah2165 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:38 pm

stabbim wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:The guy basically says that Styx's top song was written on a cocaine binge.


It. Was. A. Joke. And a throwaway joke, at that. Be offended by the joke or not, but it takes a special combination of hubris and paranoia to read that piece and believe that it has "apparently been put up to discredit [DDY's] integrity and good name!"

rajah2165 wrote:How would you like that being said about your greatest work when it was completely false?


In a context that harmless? I wouldn't really care. But even if it was something that I did find offensive, I believe that there are much better ways to deal with it than the example we see in this thread's first post.


Well at least he had the sense not to mess with that shit....Unlike Coke Boy Tommy Shaw.
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Postby stmonkeys » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:38 pm

rajah2165 wrote:
stabbim wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:The guy basically says that Styx's top song was written on a cocaine binge.


It. Was. A. Joke. And a throwaway joke, at that. Be offended by the joke or not, but it takes a special combination of hubris and paranoia to read that piece and believe that it has "apparently been put up to discredit [DDY's] integrity and good name!"

rajah2165 wrote:How would you like that being said about your greatest work when it was completely false?


In a context that harmless? I wouldn't really care. But even if it was something that I did find offensive, I believe that there are much better ways to deal with it than the example we see in this thread's first post.


Well at least he had the sense not to mess with that shit....Unlike Coke Boy Tommy Shaw.


yeah, REALLY!!! NOBODY ELSE did drugs back then, aside from Coke Boy Tommy Shaw!!!

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