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Postby bugsymalone » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:16 pm

I agree with all you say Allan. I am just not up for even thinking about a "fantasy" reunion, even if it is only a fantasy.

I LIKE what is going on now. :P I want Dennis to stay solo, work in more solo songs to his act (but also keep in some of the songs he wrote for Styx). I guess my fantasy is dreaming up a setlist for him that removes some of the songs I don't like. :wink:




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Postby LifeGiver » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:57 am

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Maybe I'm wrong about JY and the legacy thing. How long have I bitched that they have ignored songs like "Midnight Ride" and it's now back sometimes? 8 years going back the mailing list only where we all tore each other apart. I hope that they take some of that "it's for the fans" thing back.


This will probably be controversial, but I would like to hear what Styx would sound like without JY. I never liked his voice and I usually skipped his songs. To me, he never fit in with the Styx sound or theme. Lyrically he is very inferior to Tommy Shaw and Dennis Deyoung. I think he usually messed up the harmonies too.

Imagine a Shaw/Deyoung album! As good as Shaw/Blades is, I can't even imagine how good a Shaw/Deyoung album would be. Especially if they did a lot of accoustic work (like Boat On The River or Dear John). I think that album might even appeal to today's audience.

Heres to hoping!

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Postby rajah2165 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:39 am

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Zan wrote:Obviously, I'd go see any scenario in this equation, but I really have no interest in John B. or Kyle. Gowan and Todd have become two of my favorite musicians ever, while the other two do nothing for me. I'm not saying they suck or anything, but for me, they fall short of greatness. I know Froy believes DDY's keyboardist (there's an irony for ya right there) blows Gowan away (another piece of comedy due to the fact that he's never seen Gowan live), but I highly doubt it - I'd have to see it to believe it, I guess, and from what I have seen, fuhgettaboutit.

And Allan, you know everyone here lives to steal your ideas. Just accept it as one of those crosses you have to bear. :lol:


LOL Zan, guess I do. Dammit.

I agree 100% on Todd. Not even an argument there. I have never - and this is going back to that first orchestral show @ the Rosemont Horizon - thought Kyle was a great drummer for DDY. He murders those fills in "Castle Walls" for me. Some of it is he doesn't have the drumkit, but those fills are such a crucial part of the song.

John B. is a good keyboard player, but I have heard him goof some of the parts. Gowan isn't leaps and bounds better than John, and neither is John leaps and bounds better than Gowan. I would take Gowan simply because I think he knows the parts better, and has demonstrated the ability to do songs like "Fooling Yourself" et al.

I mean, the idea of a dedicated keyboard player goes back to either 1991 (EOTC tour) or the 1996 shows, but if I remember correctly, Tommy is the one that pushed to have DDY play keys and not hire someone.

I would say in any configuration, Ricky is out of a job and Chuck would appear as he does now. The question is will JY come along for the ride? I say yes. What the hell else would he do?

The other problem you have is that both Glen and DDY don't like extended tours anymore. So if this does happen, I think you're looking at a summer shed tour at most. You're not looking at the neverending extended tour. However, I know fans have wanted DDY to come to the UK and Europe, and Styx recently has established themselves again there. Styx with DDY back (or whatever you want to call this arrangement) would probably do well to go back overseas for one last jaunt.

My prediction: if it doesn't happen by 2010, it's not going to happen ever.


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Postby StyxCollector » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:34 am

LifeGiver wrote:This will probably be controversial, but I would like to hear what Styx would sound like without JY. I never liked his voice and I usually skipped his songs. To me, he never fit in with the Styx sound or theme. Lyrically he is very inferior to Tommy Shaw and Dennis Deyoung. I think he usually messed up the harmonies too.

Imagine a Shaw/Deyoung album! As good as Shaw/Blades is, I can't even imagine how good a Shaw/Deyoung album would be. Especially if they did a lot of accoustic work (like Boat On The River or Dear John). I think that album might even appeal to today's audience.

Heres to hoping!

-Shane


Despite what you think, JY is crucial for the Styx harmony sound. His individual songs you may not like, but he's key to the overall Styx sound. You need to step outside the individual song box and look at his contributions as a whole.

I would disagree with you on a Shaw/DeYoung album being better than S/B. Jack is a natural fit for Tommy, and their 20 year partnership proves that. A Shaw/DeYoung album may have good harmonies, but writing-wise, S/B is a better fit for Tommy.
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Postby Blue Falcon » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:56 am

LifeGiver wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Imagine a Shaw/Deyoung album! As good as Shaw/Blades is, I can't even imagine how good a Shaw/Deyoung album would be. Especially if they did a lot of accoustic work (like Boat On The River or Dear John). I think that album might even appeal to today's audience.



That would be pretty funny...but can you imagine a DDY/JY album? :shock:

That would be as likely as any of the following occurring:

A Roger Waters/David Gilmour album
Abba reunites!
Oates & Hall: This Time It's All About John
Triumph reuniting for longer than 3 seconds
Sting decides to curb his ego and keep Police together
Dave Mustaine returns to Metallica after 25-year break
New Guns N' Roses album comes out before 2015

:D
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Postby stmonkeys » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:59 am

Blue Falcon wrote:
LifeGiver wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Imagine a Shaw/Deyoung album! As good as Shaw/Blades is, I can't even imagine how good a Shaw/Deyoung album would be. Especially if they did a lot of accoustic work (like Boat On The River or Dear John). I think that album might even appeal to today's audience.



That would be pretty funny...but can you imagine a DDY/JY album? :shock:

That would be as likely as any of the following occurring:

A Roger Waters/David Gilmour album
Abba reunites!
Oates & Hall: This Time It's All About John
Triumph reuniting for longer than 3 seconds
Sting decides to curb his ego and keep Police together
Dave Mustaine returns to Metallica after 25-year break
New Guns N' Roses album comes out before 2015

:D


LMAO!!!! especially about GNR! ;)


personally i'd rather hear glen & tommy work together. glen's cyclorama songs were not written specifically FOR that album. it would be interesting to see what T&G would come up with as a duo. of course, jack is prob tommy's best collaborator, but i'm still curious. :D
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