Gowan interview

[Everett]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

Ok than how come tommy wasn't fired when he got sick a while back? I'm sure you'll come up with a perfect explanation

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

Shaw didn't have the right to vote back then to either keep or fire Dennis.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Actually, neither is an asshole. The only assholes are in here.

No kidding!

[SuiteMadameBlue]

[quote="froy/]Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

A guy gets sick or wants to stay home and write Broadway musicals. He somehow managed to play the CMN show after he got fired. His sickness was questionable at best. JY and Tommy saw another 5-13 years of waiting for Dennis to go on the road again.[/quote]

Dennis made the commitment to play at the CMN show and followed through by playing at it.

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.

[chowhall]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

[Babyblue]

I'm sorry but Gowan will NEVER be the voice of Styx

He is NOT trying to be the voice of Styx.He is being true to his own self.

[Babyblue]

Well I guess that seals the deal on any new album that might come out. I guess the only hope would be a Walmart deal of some kind. So I guess the band has no drive to write new music just to write it, it is all about the $$$.

Why would they release a new cd ?
The last one sold what 300 copies.
Nobody is buying this Styx version period
Take out the triple bills and they would draw under 2000 per show
Thanks guys you destroyed the name STYX

That is your take on it not everyone feels that way.

Ok sure ah ha yea right sure ok yea

Whatever

[gr8dane]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

So you don't like fairy tales,where the little people,who struggle with the higher powers come out on top and live happily ever after?

[Babyblue]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

So you don't like fairy tales,where the little people,who struggle with the higher powers come out on top and live happily ever after?

[froy]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

[chowhall]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

[Everett]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

And you know the two of them were broke how?

[Everett]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

Not entirely true he was on that tv show a while back (i forget what it was called) it was the one that wayne brady hosted not the forget the lyrics show but the one before that.

[Toph]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

They were broke due to their huge cocaine habits

[Toph]

[quote="froy/]Shaw and JY are the assholes
A guy gets sick and they fire him
Next time you get sick your fired

A guy gets sick or wants to stay home and write Broadway musicals. He somehow managed to play the CMN show after he got fired. His sickness was questionable at best. JY and Tommy saw another 5-13 years of waiting for Dennis to go on the road again.

Not only that but Dennis had been stuck on Hunchback forever...even putting some on BNW. He was not 100% dedicated to Styx like the rest of them were and are. Then of course, he sued them. To me, that was it...it erased any hope of him ever returning to the band If that had not happened, I could see a few tours with Gowan and then Dennis coming back a couple years later. He took a hole he was in and turned it into a grave.[/quote]

And the liars that Young and Shaw are completely blameless? Your head is so far up their ass I don't know how you breathe, Monker.
Why was it that Young and Shaw's story changed every time while Dennis's remained the same? So, piddling fools like you who live and die on every morsal they give you could make sure that you had some type of story you could relate to. God knows there are enough of them out there.
Most of them being flase. The thing about Tommy Shaw is - he is an addict. Addicts lie. Tommy has shown that he will lie on numerous occasions to make himself, Tommy Shaw, look better and more favorable - regardless of his true actions. JY on the other hand is just evil. An a no talent asshole to boot.

[Toph]

I'm sorry but Gowan will NEVER be the voice of Styx

Amen to that....maybe the voice to Alvin and the Chipmunks...

[Everett]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

They were broke due to their huge cocaine habits

Considering they've both been sober for over 10 years at the time i'm still gonna need more proof

[Toph]

I'll tell you what I think - they guy is an arrogant asshole.Period. He wishes he could sing as well as Dennis...

Well toph the sad sack charlie.
It really seems your only purpose is to egg people on.
I am in an splendid mood and am only too willing to play along.

Who is the bigger asshole? Asshole Dennis,who got himself fired?
Or asshole Gowan who got the job that was vacant ?
You tell me......

Well if this is a contest, JY wins hands down the asshole award, Tommy Shaw wins the liar award, and Gowan wins the arrogance award....

[Everett]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

Not entirely true he was on that tv show a while back (i forget what it was called) it was the one that wayne brady hosted not the forget the lyrics show but the one before that.

The show was celebrity duets in '06. He sang come sail away & roboto with hal sparks.

[Zan]

LOL @ "The only assholes are in here"

[StyxCollector]

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

We can play this game all we want to ... DDY seems to be the "go to" guy for VH-1 for the most part for some Styx stuff, and did a few shows in recent memory as well as that show on A&E a few months back, etc. He's not a shrinking violet and gets plenty of larger exposure.

But that's not the point. The bottom line is that in 2010, 11 years after the CMN show (in a few months), we're still bickering over the same stuff. WHO CARES? It's done. Everyone isn't going to come around to the same page, so I would generally agree with the assessment that the assholes are in here. JY has even pretty much shut up over all of this.

I honestly think that a reunion would be pretty bad. I'm sure musically it'd sound fine. However, you can't add water to a moat for 11 years and expect happiness on stage. Let Styx as it was go. "The classic lineup" is dead.

[Everett]

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

We can play this game all we want to ... DDY seems to be the "go to" guy for VH-1 for the most part for some Styx stuff, and did a few shows in recent memory as well as that show on A&E a few months back, etc. He's not a shrinking violet and gets plenty of larger exposure.

But that's not the point. The bottom line is that in 2010, 11 years after the CMN show (in a few months), we're still bickering over the same stuff. WHO CARES? It's done. Everyone isn't going to come around to the same page, so I would generally agree with the assessment that the assholes are in here. JY has even pretty much shut up over all of this.

I honestly think that a reunion would be pretty bad. I'm sure musically it'd sound fine. However, you can't add water to a moat for 11 years and expect happiness on stage. Let Styx as it was go. "The classic lineup" is dead.

Tell that to froy then maybe he'll quit making bs claims that dennis is coming in 2012 etc etc

[StyxCollector]

It's not any one individual - it's lots of people here on both sides of the fence. Support both, one or the other, or neither. It should be all but apparent that both sides make enough money to survive. I don't see either camp having to take jobs at Target, Walmart, or Best Buy any time soon just to make ends meet.

[Babyblue]

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

We can play this game all we want to ... DDY seems to be the "go to" guy for VH-1 for the most part for some Styx stuff, and did a few shows in recent memory as well as that show on A&E a few months back, etc. He's not a shrinking violet and gets plenty of larger exposure.

But that's not the point. The bottom line is that in 2010, 11 years after the CMN show (in a few months), we're still bickering over the same stuff. WHO CARES? It's done. Everyone isn't going to come around to the same page, so I would generally agree with the assessment that the assholes are in here. JY has even pretty much shut up over all of this.

I honestly think that a reunion would be pretty bad. I'm sure musically it'd sound fine. However, you can't add water to a moat for 11 years and expect happiness on stage. Let Styx as it was go. "The classic lineup" is dead.

So true

[chowhall]

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

We can play this game all we want to ... DDY seems to be the "go to" guy for VH-1 for the most part for some Styx stuff, and did a few shows in recent memory as well as that show on A&E a few months back, etc. He's not a shrinking violet and gets plenty of larger exposure.

But that's not the point. The bottom line is that in 2010, 11 years after the CMN show (in a few months), we're still bickering over the same stuff. WHO CARES? It's done. Everyone isn't going to come around to the same page, so I would generally agree with the assessment that the assholes are in here. JY has even pretty much shut up over all of this.

I honestly think that a reunion would be pretty bad. I'm sure musically it'd sound fine. However, you can't add water to a moat for 11 years and expect happiness on stage. Let Styx as it was go. "The classic lineup" is dead.

I was just making a point about the current version of Styx being "washed up". Although, I don't qualify VH1 or A&E "National" television. I like both versions of "Styx" currently touring, although I haven't seen Dennis's version because he doesn't come "South" very often.

[Monker]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

That's a half truth, actually. From what I understood Dennis receives most of the album royalties so the rest of the band MUST tour to make money. So, yeah, what you say above IS a huge part of the problem...When Dennis cuts tours short to pay attention to Hunchback, causing the rest of the band to lose money, of course that is going to be a huge strike against him. When Dennis says he can't tour because of light sensitivity, of course that is going to be a huge problem. Dennis can sit on his ass and dream about musicals and still get paid for past albums...while others NEED to tour to earn a paycheck. Either he's a team player and has Styx as his priority, or he is distracted by other things and can't give enough time to Styx. As I see it, the latter is what got him replaced, and his lawsuit is what got him permanently fired. Get over it.

[Everett]

Exactly monker styx didn't screw dennis dennis screwed dennis

[Monker]

Being sick or staying home to write musicals, there's more to the firing. Look back at the old threads on here, go back to about 2004 - 2005.[/color]

I was around then, just not on this board. There's always more to the firing, but the triple headed monster that is Froy, Toph, and Higgy don't get any fault on the Dennis side at all.

The bottom line was Shaw and Young were broke needed the touring Money so they ran without Dennis and did 9000 shows in 10 years Now the name is burned out so badly but the 2 have money
Great you guys got your wish

They were broke due to their huge cocaine habits

NOT TRUE. In fact, JY has said that he invested his money wisely in long term bonds. Tommy was saying he 'needed to work' prior to DY. After that, he was off the drugs...IMO, probably a lot to do with Nugent's influence. But, to say they were both broke in the 90's is just way over the top speculation.

[Monker]

And the liars that Young and Shaw are completely blameless?

They are about as blameless as Neal and Jonathan are for Perry's exit. The guy had no dedication to touring, or 100% dedication to the band itself. You can use that sentence to describe Perry or DeYoung...and the reaction of the other band members was exactly the same.

Why was it that Young and Shaw's story changed every time while Dennis's remained the same? So, piddling fools like you who live and die on every morsal they give you could make sure that you had some type of story you could relate to. God knows there are enough of them out there.
Most of them being flase. The thing about Tommy Shaw is - he is an addict. Addicts lie. Tommy has shown that he will lie on numerous occasions to make himself, Tommy Shaw, look better and more favorable - regardless of his true actions. JY on the other hand is just evil. An a no talent asshole to boot.

And, Dennis is the one who put his selfish interests in front of the music of Styx. It's the music that matters and the lack of dedication to the music, or the other members of the band, is why he is no longer there. Get over it.

[Monker]

It's burned out so badly that they got National TV airtime yesterday. The last National TV time Dennis got was in Canada.

We can play this game all we want to ... DDY seems to be the "go to" guy for VH-1 for the most part for some Styx stuff, and did a few shows in recent memory as well as that show on A&E a few months back, etc. He's not a shrinking violet and gets plenty of larger exposure.

But that's not the point. The bottom line is that in 2010, 11 years after the CMN show (in a few months), we're still bickering over the same stuff. WHO CARES? It's done. Everyone isn't going to come around to the same page, so I would generally agree with the assessment that the assholes are in here. JY has even pretty much shut up over all of this.

I honestly think that a reunion would be pretty bad. I'm sure musically it'd sound fine. However, you can't add water to a moat for 11 years and expect happiness on stage. Let Styx as it was go. "The classic lineup" is dead.

I was just making a point about the current version of Styx being "washed up". Although, I don't qualify VH1 or A&E "National" television. I like both versions of "Styx" currently touring, although I haven't seen Dennis's version because he doesn't come "South" very often.

What you mean is that FOX is a major network while those other channels are cable/satellite channels and do not have the same size audience.