JY confirms track list for 'Regeneration'

[Babyblue]

Not so much wrong as

COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY


I'm not even a "NO Dennis, NO Styx" fan. I LIKE the new band. But who wants to buy more of what they already own?????? If this is a move for the diehard fan, got news for ya. They already have these songs in their original form.

If this is coming from their management as something they need to do, then they need to look into new management.

So whats the big deal when SP remastered there CD 's Everyone went out & got them.Or was it just Perry's fans that bought them??? I have the LP'S & CD'S I will be buying the Styx CD when it comes out.

Of course you will your a follower

So you have a problem with that?????????????

[froy]

How can they keep putting out the same material?

Same songs different date.

This band is done, What a complete joke. This cd won't even sell 500 copies.
Anything to completely ruin STYX I really believe they are doing this on purpose to hurt a band that Dennis formed.
All I can say to current Styx and management is go stick your heads in the plex toilet You all a bunch of losers.

[froy]

Not so much wrong as

COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY


I'm not even a "NO Dennis, NO Styx" fan. I LIKE the new band. But who wants to buy more of what they already own?????? If this is a move for the diehard fan, got news for ya. They already have these songs in their original form.

If this is coming from their management as something they need to do, then they need to look into new management.

So whats the big deal when SP remastered there CD 's Everyone went out & got them.Or was it just Perry's fans that bought them??? I have the LP'S & CD'S I will be buying the Styx CD when it comes out.

Of course you will your a follower

[chowhall]

I think the marketing for this will be somewhat suspect. Most of the casual fans will think they are getting a greatest hits CD and probably be disappointed that it's not the original recordings. I think Gowan does a fine job in concert of reproducing Styx songs but I can't say I would want a CD of Gowan doing Dennis's songs even with heavy production.

I don't fault Styx for trying to make a buck anyway they can, but I'm not too excited for this "new" material.

[Mr JY Roboto]

As much as I don't like the idea of redoing these songs, it does make a lot of business sense. That's the reality of it these days.

I would like to see a package deal with maybe an older tour, like the Paradise Theater '81 show that is lying around, combined with some newer unreleased live stuff (Man In The Wilderness '99, Queen of Spades '99, Little Suzie '96, Coming of Age '10, etc) and a few new tunes.

[Andrew]

Here it is, straight from JY himself (via Doug Fox) http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2010/0 ... eneration/


Sterling

7 songs? That is it?

Also, yet another product which pretends the band didn't release anything of substance post 1978. 1000 copies sold to the die hards...

Next!

don't you remember that it is volume 1...god you guys are sooo fucking stupid

Time to put you on notice. Add constructive comments or find somewhere else to post.

[chickenbeef]

This will be the first Studio Album that Styx ever recorded that I will not buy. I have no interest in someone else recording Dennis' songs.
Ill buy a new album with Gowen writing his own songs like on Cyclo, but I have no interest in him recording Dennis' songs. NONE.
That is just plain wrong.

they're styx's songs not dennis'

Dennis is credited with songwriting on some of those tunes. So while Styx may have recorded them, all writing royalties go to Dennis, not Styx. Styx re-recording them is no different than if I went in the studio and recorded, say, CSA and paid the right royalties on it. Dennis still profits.

tommy and jy wrote those songs with dennis they just don't get credited on the royalties

Whether they did or not, in the eyes of the law and how things like royalties work, they didn't. Get a clue about the business side of the music industry.

if you only knew,,right bb?

[ChicagoSTYX]

Just saw a new Alice Cooper cd on iTunes tonight. All redone classics.

[bugsymalone]

Question: Does anyone know yet how this album is being marketed? Is it an exclusive to Walmart as the other bands mentioned have done? Is it self-released? (They will certainly make more money that way). Is it something to be sold at shows (and on iTunes) to feature the band in its present state?

Just curious.

Bugsy

[Babyblue]

How can they keep putting out the same material?

Same songs different date.

This band is done, What a complete joke. This cd won't even sell 500 copies.
Anything to completely ruin STYX I really believe they are doing this on purpose to hurt a band that Dennis formed.
All I can say to current Styx and management is go stick your heads in the plex toilet You all a bunch of losers.

Froy you are a total joke

[kansas666]

STYX is a much better band today than they were 30 years ago.

I will pick it up.

I am looking forward to it.

[froy]

How can they keep putting out the same material?

Same songs different date.

This band is done, What a complete joke. This cd won't even sell 500 copies.
Anything to completely ruin STYX I really believe they are doing this on purpose to hurt a band that Dennis formed.
All I can say to current Styx and management is go stick your heads in the plex toilet You all a bunch of losers.

Froy you are a total joke

And you not a real STYX fan
Get lost

[froy]

STYX is a much better band today than they were 30 years ago.

I will pick it up.

I am looking forward to it.

I will pick it up also and then throw it in the garbage where it belongs.
Understand or should I type it in another language.

[froy]

Just saw a new Alice Cooper cd on iTunes tonight. All redone classics.

Gowan is coping Alice Cooper now?
Oh my well he looks like him anyway,

[froy]

STYX is a much better band today than they were 30 years ago.

I will pick it up.

I am looking forward to it.[/qu

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They are better than they were when they did Paradise Theater and sold out 5 nights in each city and was voted the top band in the US,
Really they are better now ? Care to revise your bullshit story

[Archetype]

STYX is a much better band today than they were 30 years ago.

I will pick it up.

I am looking forward to it.[/qu

ote]

They are better than they were when they did Paradise Theater and sold out 5 nights in each city and was voted the top band in the US,
Really they are better now ? Care to revise your bullshit story

Technically and musically, yes. They're much better. Lawrence is a tremendously talented and classically trained pianist. Todd is a Berklee trained drummer who always gets all kinds of accolades in the drumming world. Ricky plays that five-string like a monster and brings a lot of background vocals to the table. JY and Tommy aren't constantly burnt out on narcotics and have a lot more playing experience. They're a much tighter band now.

[yogi]

Here is a copy of the track list of Regeneration that I WOULD purchase:

1. Put Me On
2. Born For Adventure
3. Borowed Time
4. Great White Hope
5. Guerilla Soldier
6. Lights
7. Man In The Wilderness
8. Suite Madame Blue
9. Just Get Through This Night
10. The New Song
11. Criminal Mind
12. Love In The Midnight

[Everett]

um yogi wtf is this song???

5. Guerilla Soldier

[yogi]

a track from Gowan off his Strange Animal album.
It's a really good song. Close to but not quite as good as Criminal Mind

[Everett]

a track from Gowan off his Strange Animal album.
It's a really good song. Close to but not quite as good as Criminal Mind

Gotchya but if i were to put in a gowan solo song it would have to be strange animal

[masque]

This will be the first Studio Album that Styx ever recorded that I will not buy. I have no interest in someone else recording Dennis' songs.
Ill buy a new album with Gowen writing his own songs like on Cyclo, but I have no interest in him recording Dennis' songs. NONE.
That is just plain wrong.

they're styx's songs not dennis'

Dennis is credited with songwriting on some of those tunes. So while Styx may have recorded them, all writing royalties go to Dennis, not Styx. Styx re-recording them is no different than if I went in the studio and recorded, say, CSA and paid the right royalties on it. Dennis still profits.

you are correct concerning the "writing" royalties but that is only half of what is paid out on that....the other half of the royalties are the publishing royalites and that woudl be split based on the business agreement they had as publishers. I think JY and most of the others sold out to Dennis on that stuff but I beleive Tommy maintained his part of the publishign which means that he would still get a cut of the publishing royalites on any Dennis written tune and Dennis would get his cut on any Tommy written tune.

[brywool]

Call me crazy, but I'm going to let this actually come out before I try to judge it, LOL. I can see both sides of this one since just about every band I interview nowadays is in the same boat. There's just no outlet for new music from a "classic" band. Radio doesn't play it, companies don't want to sign it, and the brutal truth is that MOST fans don't want to hear it anyway. We here are the few, not the many. The bread and butter Styx fan is the casual fan that goes to a concert and may not even know who is or is not in the band, and a release like this - with the titles of recognizable hits on the sleeve - can do well at the merchandise table, without some company taking a giant bite out of the band's ass. It makes absolute sense on that level.

Now, that said, KISS, Journey and Foreigner all did a great job on their re-records, and when I'm in the mood to listen to those old songs, I still pull out the versions I've been listening to for the last thirty years. I'd imagine this will be the same. Those old records are imprinted in my DNA and it's hard to get past that. Still, I'd much rather see the band doing this than doing nothing at all, and in practical terms this is a good companion piece to the fall tour, since it's heavy on songs from TGI and Po8. It'll be a great point-of-purchase souvenir of those shows for a lot of fans, I think.

I know we'd all rather have a new album, and I bet the band members would rather make a new record, too. But they've obviously accepted that this is the way things are right now for bands of that era, and perhaps we should, too.


Sterling

So Sterling, do you really think that radio will play these re-recorded versions? They didn't for Journey (though they did play their new songs) and I haven't heard any other bands redone versions either.
To me, as an artist, I would MUCH rather move forward than backwards in my career, especially if I had the writing chops of Shaw and Gowan. Granted, Rock radio won't play it, redone or new stuff. They WILL play the old stuff. Okay, so be it. Then why re-record old stuff?

The band should just say- "It costs us as much to record new stuff as old. Let's do new stuff just to keep us interested and for the fans that want new stuff".

Just my opinion.

[Everett]

I agree with you bry but i still say this should've been a two disc set like journey had. One disc new stuff and the other with re recorded songs

[brywool]

Question: Does anyone know yet how this album is being marketed? Is it an exclusive to Walmart as the other bands mentioned have done? Is it self-released? (They will certainly make more money that way). Is it something to be sold at shows (and on iTunes) to feature the band in its present state?

Just curious.

Bugsy

They'd make more money IF there was new tracks (besides the one). To just redo classic songs... man, I don't get it. Maybe there's a DVD in there. That'd make some sense, but not much.

[brywool]

I agree with you bry but i still say this should've been a two disc set like journey had. One disc new stuff and the other with re recorded songs

Yeah, I said that before too- IF there was an entire NEW disc of tunes, I could see doing this. Especially if it was a stipulation by the record company. But a 7 song disc with one new song that they've already been giving away? I don't get it.

How come a band like Rush can put out new stuff all the time? They were not a HUGE radio band, at least not in the league of Styx.

What the heck has happened to the music business? It SUCKS. Classic Rock radio needs to wake up and start playing new stuff by classic artists. Otherwise, they have a finite lifespan.

[Toph]

I agree with you bry but i still say this should've been a two disc set like journey had. One disc new stuff and the other with re recorded songs

Night, why have you become Everett? Yet another alias?

[Everett]

I agree with you bry but i still say this should've been a two disc set like journey had. One disc new stuff and the other with re recorded songs

Night, why have you become Everett? Yet another alias?

It's my real name toph. TNB is dead

[Rockwriter]

Question: Does anyone know yet how this album is being marketed? Is it an exclusive to Walmart as the other bands mentioned have done? Is it self-released? (They will certainly make more money that way). Is it something to be sold at shows (and on iTunes) to feature the band in its present state?

Just curious.

Bugsy

No official word on that yet, but I haven't heard anything about a Wal Mart exclusive. The band will do better financially going independent, in my opinion. Plus it MIGHT give them the opportunity to license some of the tracks for movies, TV, etc., and cut the deals directly instead of cutting in A&M. Although that said, most of those would likely shoot for the originals, but not always.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

This will be the first Studio Album that Styx ever recorded that I will not buy. I have no interest in someone else recording Dennis' songs.
Ill buy a new album with Gowen writing his own songs like on Cyclo, but I have no interest in him recording Dennis' songs. NONE.
That is just plain wrong.

they're styx's songs not dennis'

Dennis is credited with songwriting on some of those tunes. So while Styx may have recorded them, all writing royalties go to Dennis, not Styx. Styx re-recording them is no different than if I went in the studio and recorded, say, CSA and paid the right royalties on it. Dennis still profits.

you are correct concerning the "writing" royalties but that is only half of what is paid out on that....the other half of the royalties are the publishing royalites and that woudl be split based on the business agreement they had as publishers. I think JY and most of the others sold out to Dennis on that stuff but I beleive Tommy maintained his part of the publishign which means that he would still get a cut of the publishing royalites on any Dennis written tune and Dennis would get his cut on any Tommy written tune.

That's actually correct, as far as I can tell anyway. I DO think Tommy still owns his slice of those songs. As far as Dennis, I don't know for sure but I would be surprised if he didn't have to give up his part of Tommy's old songs as part of their settlement. But I'm not sure.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

Call me crazy, but I'm going to let this actually come out before I try to judge it, LOL. I can see both sides of this one since just about every band I interview nowadays is in the same boat. There's just no outlet for new music from a "classic" band. Radio doesn't play it, companies don't want to sign it, and the brutal truth is that MOST fans don't want to hear it anyway. We here are the few, not the many. The bread and butter Styx fan is the casual fan that goes to a concert and may not even know who is or is not in the band, and a release like this - with the titles of recognizable hits on the sleeve - can do well at the merchandise table, without some company taking a giant bite out of the band's ass. It makes absolute sense on that level.

Now, that said, KISS, Journey and Foreigner all did a great job on their re-records, and when I'm in the mood to listen to those old songs, I still pull out the versions I've been listening to for the last thirty years. I'd imagine this will be the same. Those old records are imprinted in my DNA and it's hard to get past that. Still, I'd much rather see the band doing this than doing nothing at all, and in practical terms this is a good companion piece to the fall tour, since it's heavy on songs from TGI and Po8. It'll be a great point-of-purchase souvenir of those shows for a lot of fans, I think.

I know we'd all rather have a new album, and I bet the band members would rather make a new record, too. But they've obviously accepted that this is the way things are right now for bands of that era, and perhaps we should, too.


Sterling

So Sterling, do you really think that radio will play these re-recorded versions? They didn't for Journey (though they did play their new songs) and I haven't heard any other bands redone versions either.
To me, as an artist, I would MUCH rather move forward than backwards in my career, especially if I had the writing chops of Shaw and Gowan. Granted, Rock radio won't play it, redone or new stuff. They WILL play the old stuff. Okay, so be it. Then why re-record old stuff?

The band should just say- "It costs us as much to record new stuff as old. Let's do new stuff just to keep us interested and for the fans that want new stuff".

Just my opinion.

No, radio won't play it, that's not why they did it. No way will radio start replacing the old versions with new, no way in the world. But fans who've just been to a concert and go to the merchandise table and see this for sale, it's an easy impulse buy with no middleman. It'll do WAY better financially for them than an album of new material. Look at CYCLO, it did nothing for them and that was years ago, when the industry was way better than it is now. As someone once said, their future IS their past. That's the way it is, they recognize it now and are trying to do the best thing they have available to them. It's imperfect to a hardcore fan, but I cannot find fault with it. For a classic rock band, moving backward is the only way to move forward in this climate.


Sterling