Looks Like High Enough is back

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx. Even if DDY had the rights to the name Styx I'm sure he would not be using it to pass it off as something it's not.

[froy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx. Even if DDY had the rights to the name Styx I'm sure he would not be using it to pass it off as something it's not.

[Monker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx.

Oh, please, people know who is in Styx by now. If they don't, they don't care. That argument is a decade too late.

On the other hand, Dennis getting somebody to sing Tommy's songs deserves the criticism of "a band full of replacements" -- because THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

[Monker]

"Monker"


And, here's the real thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=g9dkcwA ... re=related

Really where?

Well, a non-froy person would know how cut and paste the link.

[cittadeeno23]

I wonder what would happen to the people on this board is the real Styx got back together? What would you guys argue about??? LOL!!

[Monker]

I wonder what would happen to the people on this board is the real Styx got back together? What would you guys argue about??? LOL!!

Froy's vocabulary and inability to write coherent sentences.

[Rockwriter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part". I don't think this is the best way to make that judgment, with this sound quality. But I WILL concede that I don't think this song is really well suited to the best abilities of this lineup . . . just like "Babe" and "The Best of Times" were not. I'd love to hear those songs again, but not in the versions this lineup delivered. And I don't dislike "High Enough" per se, but I'd just as soon hear it from Damn Yankees as this version. Everyone knows I'm not one of these anti-Gowan guys; I think he's great in the right setting, and a really good guy. But the high harmonies of this song are not the best use for his voice, and I think that's fairly obvious. And JY contributed a kind of go-nowhere, stuck-for-something-to-play solo, which is no worse than Ted's overbearing original solo that was way too much for the song, but not much of an improvement, either. I wouldn't say this is a mtach for JY's strengths, either.

I'd just as soon see them drop this and add something up-tempo if it's Damn Yankees covers they want to do. That would be a better fit in my opinion.

Sterling

[Monker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part".

Isn't Tommy singing Jack's lead part and Gowan singing Tommy's harmony part? In any case, it sounded to me like the harmony was fine...but Gowan's mic was turned up too loud...or maybe it's just where the recording was made, favoring one mic over the other.

I'd just as soon see them drop this and add something up-tempo if it's Damn Yankees covers they want to do. That would be a better fit in my opinion.

I'd rather hear "Come Again", just for Tommy's guitar parts.

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx.

Oh, please, people know who is in Styx by now. If they don't, they don't care. That argument is a decade too late.

On the other hand, Dennis getting somebody to sing Tommy's songs deserves the criticism of "a band full of replacements" -- because THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

I disagree, TS was never in DDY's solo projects and he is not billing himself as Styx. On the other hand you have the current band that calls themselves Styx with not one founding member in it. You could say Chuck but I thinks it's fair to say that he really is retired and shows up once in a blue moon. Personally, I am not a big fan of DDY adding those songs to his set list and having someone else perform them. However, from a business point he is trying to give fans a more complete Styx Hits show.

[Boomchild]

I wonder what would happen to the people on this board is the real Styx got back together? What would you guys argue about??? LOL!!

The argument would be over if HELL has frozen over or not!

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part". I don't think this is the best way to make that judgment, with this sound quality. But I WILL concede that I don't think this song is really well suited to the best abilities of this lineup . . . just like "Babe" and "The Best of Times" were not. I'd love to hear those songs again, but not in the versions this lineup delivered. And I don't dislike "High Enough" per se, but I'd just as soon hear it from Damn Yankees as this version. Everyone knows I'm not one of these anti-Gowan guys; I think he's great in the right setting, and a really good guy. But the high harmonies of this song are not the best use for his voice, and I think that's fairly obvious. And JY contributed a kind of go-nowhere, stuck-for-something-to-play solo, which is no worse than Ted's overbearing original solo that was way too much for the song, but not much of an improvement, either. I wouldn't say this is a mtach for JY's strengths, either.

I'd just as soon see them drop this and add something up-tempo if it's Damn Yankees covers they want to do. That would be a better fit in my opinion.

Sterling

JY wishes he could play as well as Ted. It's a shame that these guys can find another Styx song to add then something from another project. With their catalog that should be easy, it wouldn't have to be a hit but could be something that most people would know. Just my .02.

[Monker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx.

Oh, please, people know who is in Styx by now. If they don't, they don't care. That argument is a decade too late.

On the other hand, Dennis getting somebody to sing Tommy's songs deserves the criticism of "a band full of replacements" -- because THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

I disagree, TS was never in DDY's solo projects and he is not billing himself as Styx. On the other hand you have the current band that calls themselves Styx with not one founding member in it. You could say Chuck but I thinks it's fair to say that he really is retired and shows up once in a blue moon. Personally, I am not a big fan of DDY adding those songs to his set list and having someone else perform them. However, from a business point he is trying to give fans a more complete Styx Hits show.

Oh, please, JY has been in the band from the first album. Tommy has been there since the mid-70's. Todd has been there since John's death. If BNW worked out and Styx continued, the only difference would be Gowan/Dennis and *MAYBE* Glen/Ricky. Styx has 2/3 of the team that really made Styx popular, with Gowan replacing Dennis. The 'founding members' argument doesn't work with me. If you want to make this argument about a band, complain about LRB.

The bottom line is it is hypocritical to critique Styx for performing Styx songs songs and NOT critique Dennis for performing Tommy's Styx songs....and comments about 'replacing the entire band' are better applied to Dennis then Styx.

[brywool]

why can't people just enjoy (or not) both and leave it at that. To keep debating the same points over and over (many of them bordering on psychotic) is really stupid...

If you don't like one or the other, fine. But why intentionally try to start sh*t?

[Archetype]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. Not a Styx vibe. Take it out of the set and put Crystal Ball or One With Everything in its place.

[bugsymalone]

Monker is right. The vote count for the name rights to Styx went to the guys calling themselves Styx. Whatever they perform as Styx, and whoever ends up in the band to perform it, they legitimately hold the name.

So, I ask, why put in a Damn Yankees song? Or any Gowan song? Stick to the enormous Styx catalog. There are plenty in there that would suit this lineup perfectly. Maybe they better start throwing in the new song. Or "Sing for the Day" to promote this new release of theirs. I don't get "High Enough" being in the set at all. You are Styx. Sing Styx songs. Preferably ones that Gowan isn't featured prominently on, though. (JMO)

Dennis, on the other hand, is basically billing himself as someone performing the "music of Styx". He can throw in anything he likes. And can bring in players to do songs from the Styx catalog if he wants. He is not calling his band "Styx."

That said, I agree with Boomchild. I am none too happy about the addition of the Shaw-penned songs to DDY's show, since I think he took out some terrific Styx songs and solo songs he wrote to put those others in. But I do see WHY he is doing it, as has been discussed in a couple of other threads here awhile back. He is putting out a more well-rounded presentation of Styx music, plus he gets some voice rest during the set.

Bugsy

[brywool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part".

I wouldn't say horrible either, however, not great. Keep in mind that TOMMY is the guy that sings the higher part in the original (NOT Jack) and Gowan's voice isn't as high as Tommy's. Not a slam on Gowan, just a fact. Also, Tommy's pretty pitchy on this recording as well.

If Tommy wants to do this as an acoustic, kind of centerpiece, he should just do it alone. But really, this is STYX so I'd much rather hear Man in the Wilderness or something else.

[shaka]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. .

Seriously, WTH?

Possibly the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board.

[cittadeeno23]

If these guys want to go around using the Styx Name, they need to stick to Just Styx songs.

Phil Collins never sang a Solo song at a Genesis concert! And thank God, cuz I would have gotten up and walked out!!

[cittadeeno23]

And just for the record I LOVE Damn Yankees. But I don't want to hear their songs at a Styx concert.
I saw Night Ranger a few years ago and Jack sang High Enough along with the drummer, Kelly Keagy I think his name is, and I thought it was lame.

[Archetype]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. .

Seriously, WTH?

Possibly the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board.

Doesn't change the fact that the whole vibe of Damn Yankees songs is very different from Styx songs. I really wish they would take High Enough out of the set.

[Rockwriter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part".

Isn't Tommy singing Jack's lead part and Gowan singing Tommy's harmony part? In any case, it sounded to me like the harmony was fine...but Gowan's mic was turned up too loud...or maybe it's just where the recording was made, favoring one mic over the other.

I'd just as soon see them drop this and add something up-tempo if it's Damn Yankees covers they want to do. That would be a better fit in my opinion.

I'd rather hear "Come Again", just for Tommy's guitar parts.

You're right, I'll have to amend that to "certainly not as good as Tommy singing the same part", LOL.

When I first heard "Come Again" I thought it could have been a great Styx song.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part".

I wouldn't say horrible either, however, not great. Keep in mind that TOMMY is the guy that sings the higher part in the original (NOT Jack) and Gowan's voice isn't as high as Tommy's. Not a slam on Gowan, just a fact. Also, Tommy's pretty pitchy on this recording as well.

If Tommy wants to do this as an acoustic, kind of centerpiece, he should just do it alone. But really, this is STYX so I'd much rather hear Man in the Wilderness or something else.

I agree, I have never really understood why this lineup has chosen to play so many NON-Styx songs, while ignoring so many popular Styx songs. I've never, ever seen any other band do that in the history of the world, not that I can recall. I know I've said it before, but I just don't get it. That's their choice to make, but I swear to God I believe it's one that a majority of fans disagree with.


Sterling

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

What do you expect from a band full of replacements?

We're not talking about Dennis' band performing Renegade.

At least you know your not getting Styx the band as apposed to a half baked version of a once great band called Styx.

Oh, please, people know who is in Styx by now. If they don't, they don't care. That argument is a decade too late.

On the other hand, Dennis getting somebody to sing Tommy's songs deserves the criticism of "a band full of replacements" -- because THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

I disagree, TS was never in DDY's solo projects and he is not billing himself as Styx. On the other hand you have the current band that calls themselves Styx with not one founding member in it. You could say Chuck but I thinks it's fair to say that he really is retired and shows up once in a blue moon. Personally, I am not a big fan of DDY adding those songs to his set list and having someone else perform them. However, from a business point he is trying to give fans a more complete Styx Hits show.

Oh, please, JY has been in the band from the first album. Tommy has been there since the mid-70's. Todd has been there since John's death. If BNW worked out and Styx continued, the only difference would be Gowan/Dennis and *MAYBE* Glen/Ricky. Styx has 2/3 of the team that really made Styx popular, with Gowan replacing Dennis. The 'founding members' argument doesn't work with me. If you want to make this argument about a band, complain about LRB.

The bottom line is it is hypocritical to critique Styx for performing Styx songs songs and NOT critique Dennis for performing Tommy's Styx songs....and comments about 'replacing the entire band' are better applied to Dennis then Styx.

I see the founding member issue different from you so I will have to agree to disagree. I did say that I am not really supportive of Dennis adding the TS songs to his set list with another person performing them. However, to imply that "replacing the entire band" doesn't apply to DDY's Solo Band at all. It was never the band called Styx nor presented as that. In order for that to apply JY, TS etc. would have had to be in it to be replaced.

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375N4H32s_A&feature=related

The harmonies are HORRIBLE...

Well, I wouldn't say "horrible", but I might say "certainly not as good as Jack Blades singing the same part".

I wouldn't say horrible either, however, not great. Keep in mind that TOMMY is the guy that sings the higher part in the original (NOT Jack) and Gowan's voice isn't as high as Tommy's. Not a slam on Gowan, just a fact. Also, Tommy's pretty pitchy on this recording as well.

If Tommy wants to do this as an acoustic, kind of centerpiece, he should just do it alone. But really, this is STYX so I'd much rather hear Man in the Wilderness or something else.

I agree, I have never really understood why this lineup has chosen to play so many NON-Styx songs, while ignoring so many popular Styx songs. I've never, ever seen any other band do that in the history of the world, not that I can recall. I know I've said it before, but I just don't get it. That's their choice to make, but I swear to God I believe it's one that a majority of fans disagree with.


Sterling

This is one of the points that fans that were not supportive of Styx continuing on without DDY are talking about. It has the ability to shake the integrity of the band. I would think that the average fan coming to a Styx concert is coming to hear STYX Songs not Styx performing another artist's songs.

[Babyblue]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. .

Seriously, WTH?

Possibly the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board.

I agree with you Shaka Where dose white trash & redneck come in to play here??????????????????????????????

[Babyblue]

why can't people just enjoy (or not) both and leave it at that. To keep debating the same points over and over (many of them bordering on psychotic) is really stupid...

If you don't like one or the other, fine. But why intentionally try to start sh*t?

THANK YOU

[Toph]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. .

Seriously, WTH?

Possibly the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board.

I agree with you Shaka Where dose white trash & redneck come in to play here??????????????????????????????

It is a very accurate statement. DY had a bigtime redneck vibe. Ted shooting fire arrows into Saddam Juusein, albums titled Don't Tread, redneck truckers on album covers, many songs with that boogie woogie vibe. Extremely white trash. They knew their target and tried to appeal to them.

[Ehwmatt]

That was great....


for a bar band.

Stick with the non-DeYoung Styx and the current lineup is fine.

[Babyblue]

I just don't like High Enough in a Styx setting. It has the redneck/white trash vibe that all the Damn Yankees songs have. .

Seriously, WTH?

Possibly the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board.

I agree with you Shaka Where dose white trash & redneck come in to play here??????????????????????????????

It is a very accurate statement. DY had a bigtime redneck vibe. Ted shooting fire arrows into Saddam Juusein, albums titled Don't Tread, redneck truckers on album covers, many songs with that boogie woogie vibe. Extremely white trash. They knew their target and tried to appeal to them.

Well we learn something new everyday.

[Boomchild]

That was great....


for a bar band.

Stick with the non-DeYoung Styx and the current lineup is fine.

Right, stay away from those top 10 hits that DeYoung contributed to the band. That's a smart business move, sure to please the average fan coming out to see you. I'm willing to bet that you will never see them drop DDY penned songs from their set list. Gee, I wonder why?