Ricky on Regeneration and new music.........

[froy]

Baby


Froy, whatever i could careless And for your info i am a good person & kind.

Than start acting that way ok..
Life is not based around Larry Gowan, he can careless about your fandom.
All he wnts is STYX money that's it.

[Babyblue]

Baby


Froy, whatever i could careless And for your info i am a good person & kind.

Than start acting that way ok..
Life is not based around Larry Gowan, he can careless about your fandom.
All he wnts is STYX money that's it.

Let me ask you this Froy? Have you ever walked in LG shoes??????????????????? No you have not.... so you have no clue as to what he thinks or how he feels.

[Rockwriter]

OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!

DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...

I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.


Sterling

[chickenbeef]

OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!

DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...

I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling

saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts

[froy]

[

quote="Babyblue"]

Baby


Froy, whatever i could careless And for your info i am a good person & kind.

Than start acting that way ok..
Life is not based around Larry Gowan, he can careless about your fandom.
All he wnts is STYX money that's it.

Let me ask you this Froy? Have you ever walked in LG shoes??????????????????? No you have not.... so you have no clue as to what he thinks or how he feels.

And you have no idea either. Stop chasing around the enabler.

[Boomchild]

When i saw them last fall i think i was the only one in the whole section that knew one with everything. Just my two cents.

WHEN and WHY did this change with radio? Seriously, radio plays zero new music unless it's the rap/r&B stuff. I guess that's because that music has a bigger audience...
Is that MTV's doing? Maybe so...


Silly Humans.

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

[Abitaman]

I have so much to say .

That maybe the part stops me from listening. What people think is one thing as long as they know it is what THEY think and not the truth for everyone else.
I'll give you a try...just don't get carried away...........

[Babyblue]

[

quote="Babyblue"]

Baby


Froy, whatever i could careless And for your info i am a good person & kind.

Than start acting that way ok..
Life is not based around Larry Gowan, he can careless about your fandom.
All he wnts is STYX money that's it.

Let me ask you this Froy? Have you ever walked in LG shoes??????????????????? No you have not.... so you have no clue as to what he thinks or how he feels.

And you have no idea either. Stop chasing around the enabler.

I unlike you have never said i did.But i will tell you this he cares about his fans.End of story here.Non of us walk in anyones shoes till then shut the F up.

[Rockwriter]

When i saw them last fall i think i was the only one in the whole section that knew one with everything. Just my two cents.

WHEN and WHY did this change with radio? Seriously, radio plays zero new music unless it's the rap/r&B stuff. I guess that's because that music has a bigger audience...
Is that MTV's doing? Maybe so...


Silly Humans.

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

Absolutely. They started to focus in on just the songs that got the most requests. They narrowed the playlists, then narrowed them again. Now the average classic rock playlist seems to consist of about 30 songs, and of course we're all sick of them. I know I can't be the only person who used to love "Stairway To Heaven" who can't stand it any more. Same goes with a lot of that stuff. It's why I lean so much toward album tracks. I wish I would never have to hear "Roxanne", "Hey Jude", "Stairway To Heaven" or "Freebird" ever again in my life. You could take those songs and shoot them into space for all I care. And the sad part is, I know they're all great songs in their own way, I'm just sick to death of them.

Sterling

[froy]

"Rockwriter"

I wish I would never have to hear "Roxanne", "Hey Jude", "Stairway To Heaven" or "Freebird" ever again in my life. You could take those songs and shoot them into space for all I care. And the sad part is, I know they're all great songs in their own way, I'm just sick to death of them.

Sterling

Your correct but how about a different version of Hey Jude maybe a demo with no piano and an acoustic guitar as the lead more of a folk song feel. I have it and it's cool. Also STH how about the version from the O2 arena show instead of the same one we have heard for 40 years, That's what is needed different spins of these tunes, Plus different tunes period. I got em and will play them.

[froy]

babyface said


Let me ask you this Froy? Have you ever walked in LG shoes??????????????????? No you have not.... so you have no clue as to what he thinks or how he feels.

And you have no idea either. Stop chasing around the enabler.

I unlike you have never said i did.But i will tell you this he cares about his fans.End of story here.Non of us walk in anyones shoes till then shut the F up.

Well than he cares about you and that's it because your his only fan. Face it it's only Canadian fans who care about Gowan. Nobody in the US gives a damn about this guy, He has no talent and he is a fill in for Dennis DeYoung. Are ya proud of a guy who just copies someone else Gee real hard to walk in those shoes.

[brywool]

crap, we're back to this stuff? C'mon....

[froy]

crap, we're back to this stuff? C'mon....

yea Baby keeps baiting and I keep taking.
Its old I know.

[brywool]

hey, quit ragging on Jude!

This has been a special announcement by the MR. Beatle Police

[Rockwriter]

hey, quit ragging on Jude!

This has been a special announcement by the MR. Beatle Police

LOL. It's a great song, no debate here. The problem isn't with the song, it's with my having heard it eight hundred trillion times. Kinda like chocolate cake. Who doesn't like chocolate cake? But if you were fed three pieces a day, every day for thirty years, the mere thought of it would make you sick. That's the sad state of classic rock radio.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

"Rockwriter"

I wish I would never have to hear "Roxanne", "Hey Jude", "Stairway To Heaven" or "Freebird" ever again in my life. You could take those songs and shoot them into space for all I care. And the sad part is, I know they're all great songs in their own way, I'm just sick to death of them.

Sterling

Your correct but how about a different version of Hey Jude maybe a demo with no piano and an acoustic guitar as the lead more of a folk song feel. I have it and it's cool. Also STH how about the version from the O2 arena show instead of the same one we have heard for 40 years, That's what is needed different spins of these tunes, Plus different tunes period. I got em and will play them.

That seems like it would be worth hearing, absolutely. It also seems like there will be some inherent copyright issues with those unreleased versions, to be honest. If you pull this off it'll be great. If you don't, you'll be posting from the computer in the prison library, LOL.


Sterling

[chickenbeef]

hey, quit ragging on Jude!

This has been a special announcement by the MR. Beatle Police

LOL. It's a great song, no debate here. The problem isn't with the song, it's with my having heard it eight hundred trillion times. Kinda like chocolate cake. Who doesn't like chocolate cake? But if you were fed three pieces a day, every day for thirty years, the mere thought of it would make you sick. That's the sad state of classic rock radio.


Sterling

then maybe a career change is in order

[Rockwriter]

hey, quit ragging on Jude!

This has been a special announcement by the MR. Beatle Police

LOL. It's a great song, no debate here. The problem isn't with the song, it's with my having heard it eight hundred trillion times. Kinda like chocolate cake. Who doesn't like chocolate cake? But if you were fed three pieces a day, every day for thirty years, the mere thought of it would make you sick. That's the sad state of classic rock radio.


Sterling

then maybe a career change is in order

Or maybe I'll just avoid listening to the few songs that drive me nuts and continue to do as I please! But thanks for your concern.


Sterling

[froy]

"Rockwriter"

I wish I would never have to hear "Roxanne", "Hey Jude", "Stairway To Heaven" or "Freebird" ever again in my life. You could take those songs and shoot them into space for all I care. And the sad part is, I know they're all great songs in their own way, I'm just sick to death of them.

Sterling

Your correct but how about a different version of Hey Jude maybe a demo with no piano and an acoustic guitar as the lead more of a folk song feel. I have it and it's cool. Also STH how about the version from the O2 arena show instead of the same one we have heard for 40 years, That's what is needed different spins of these tunes, Plus different tunes period. I got em and will play them.

That seems like it would be worth hearing, absolutely. It also seems like there will be some inherent copyright issues with those unreleased versions, to be honest. If you pull this off it'll be great. If you don't, you'll be posting from the computer in the prison library, LOL.


Sterling

Funny you mentioned that


There are tons of legit alternate versions out there
here is one of them


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-T1UuvXkM

and another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOKAAeP4 ... re=related

[Monker]

When i saw them last fall i think i was the only one in the whole section that knew one with everything. Just my two cents.

WHEN and WHY did this change with radio? Seriously, radio plays zero new music unless it's the rap/r&B stuff. I guess that's because that music has a bigger audience...
Is that MTV's doing? Maybe so...


Silly Humans.

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

That is true...but, that also STARTED in the 80's...right at the height of Journey and Styx fandom. So, I absolutely do not believe this is the 'only' reason why radio is such a mess today.

[Monker]

I have so much to say .

That maybe the part stops me from listening. What people think is one thing as long as they know it is what THEY think and not the truth for everyone else.
I'll give you a try...just don't get carried away...........

IMO, a good host is not one who has a lot to say...but one who LISTENS. froy doesn't want to listen.

[froy]

I have so much to say .

That maybe the part stops me from listening. What people think is one thing as long as they know it is what THEY think and not the truth for everyone else.
I'll give you a try...just don't get carried away...........

IMO, a good host is not one who has a lot to say...but one who LISTENS. froy doesn't want to listen.

Listen to what your nonsense
No thanks

And we are not hosts we are the show.

[froy]

"Monker" Brywool

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

That is true...but, that also STARTED in the 80's...right at the height of Journey and Styx fandom. So, I absolutely do not believe this is the 'only' reason why radio is such a mess today.

Radio is a mess today because almost every band out there is not even real

Styx Journey ELO Zeppelin The Who, Pink Floyd and many others are all dead bands or cover bands running around using the name. Why promote new STYX when it's not even STYX ? Only the band members pretend they are and radio does not buy it.

[Monker]

"Monker" Brywool

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

That is true...but, that also STARTED in the 80's...right at the height of Journey and Styx fandom. So, I absolutely do not believe this is the 'only' reason why radio is such a mess today.

Radio is a mess today because almost every band out there is not even real

Styx Journey ELO Zeppelin The Who, Pink Floyd and many others are all dead bands or cover bands running around using the name. Why promote new STYX when it's not even STYX ? Only the band members pretend they are and radio does not buy it.

Because the music is good. Like I said, I heard Walrus and a couple other BBT songs on the radio when they came.

And, they ARE Styx. Dennis lawsuit and settlement ensured that.

[Monker]

Absolutely. They started to focus in on just the songs that got the most requests. They narrowed the playlists, then narrowed them again.

This is only partially true. They also use poll data and such. Funny how not too long ago you made the argument about how advertisers choose songs but now that it's applied to radio, it's a 'bad' thing. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

[Monker]

I have so much to say .

That maybe the part stops me from listening. What people think is one thing as long as they know it is what THEY think and not the truth for everyone else.
I'll give you a try...just don't get carried away...........

IMO, a good host is not one who has a lot to say...but one who LISTENS. froy doesn't want to listen.

Listen to what your nonsense
No thanks

And we are not hosts we are the show.

...and a nightmare to others!

[Archetype]

OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!

DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...

I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling

saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts

2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.

[chickenbeef]

"Monker" Brywool

It all started to fall apart when they took the power to choose what to play away from the D.J.s and shifted it to the guys in suits with all their "marketing data".

That is true...but, that also STARTED in the 80's...right at the height of Journey and Styx fandom. So, I absolutely do not believe this is the 'only' reason why radio is such a mess today.

Radio is a mess today because almost every band out there is not even real

Styx Journey ELO Zeppelin The Who, Pink Floyd and many others are all dead bands or cover bands running around using the name. Why promote new STYX when it's not even STYX ? Only the band members pretend they are and radio does not buy it.

dead eh??? that must be why millions of people go see them

[chickenbeef]

OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!

DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...

I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling

saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts

2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.

BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"

[froy]

"chickenbeef"


BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"

Not surprised at all current Styx fans don't even know who is in the band.
It's just a beer night is all,