Regeneration: Come Sail Away

[Babyblue]

Wilma said


We don't really give a fig what you think either.Fred

Go wash they dishes ok Wilma.

Sorry we are not living in the 50's anymore dirtbag.

You have a problem with me??Then pm or other wise shut up dude.

Nice try tough guy. Not going to work

I just checked still not a guy.

[froy]

Wilma said


We don't really give a fig what you think either.Fred

Go wash they dishes ok Wilma.

Sorry we are not living in the 50's anymore dirtbag.

You have a problem with me??Then pm or other wise shut up dude.

Nice try tough guy. Not going to work

I just checked still not a guy.

You need a magnifying glass check again

[gr8dane]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

[froy]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

Correction it's Regurgitation

[Babyblue]

Wilma said


We don't really give a fig what you think either.Fred

Go wash they dishes ok Wilma.

Sorry we are not living in the 50's anymore dirtbag.

You have a problem with me??Then pm or other wise shut up dude.

Nice try tough guy. Not going to work

I just checked still not a guy.

You need a magnifying glass check again

Well no guy here

[Born4adventure]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

[gr8dane]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

In that first minute it looks like Tommy is going to regurgitate in that mask.Twice as a matter of fact.

[Babyblue]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Panzer and Crisco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

He is wearing a diving suit

[gr8dane]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Panzer and Crisco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

He is wearing a diving suit

3 sizes too big.

[Babyblue]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Panzer and Crisco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

He is wearing a diving suit

3 sizes too big.

So true

[Babyblue]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

In that first minute it looks like Tommy is going to regurgitate in that mask.Twice as a matter of fact.

I feel for TS

[Toph]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

That single itself sold well over a million copies.....

That would be 100 times more than the entire Cyclorama album...

Hurt really bad...

[Toph]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

Damn straight. Dennis would never stoop to such levels...

And by the way, I was off...its more like 70% of all Styx songs.

[gr8dane]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

Damn straight. Dennis would never stoop to such levels...

And by the way, I was off...its more like 70% of all Styx songs.

70%.Isn't that something.
On regeneration it is 0%.

[froy]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

Made Dennis 1 million dollars when he sold it to VW for the commercial.
Of course Shaw and JY wanted 33 percent each and Dennis said no thanks.
So they got revenge and found Larry who has no scruples and the sandbag began

[froy]

I can think of quite a few things to be said.....but I'll shut-up and be nice!

On 2nd thought, I'll say what's on my mind. Re-recording Dennis' songs with someone else singing them is an insult to the history of this once great band. Period. And I would say the exact same thing if Dennis' new band re-recorded some of Tommy's songs. Neither band should go there. Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Of course but when you are dealing with children filled with revenge all bets are off.
The Legacy of STYX has been destroyed by Gowan Shaw Young Pannazzo and Brusco.
All for the love of money.

yep and this never hurt them right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6m6m0hh9IU

In that first minute it looks like Tommy is going to regurgitate in that mask.Twice as a matter of fact.

To much blow back then

[froy]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

Damn straight. Dennis would never stoop to such levels...

And by the way, I was off...its more like 70% of all Styx songs.

70%.Isn't that something.
On regeneration it is 0%.

Correction it's Regurgitation

[brywool]

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

Toph: The classiest of Styx Fans...

[StyxCollector]

The quick summation of my thoughts: oy.

I have to agree with a lot of people - the beginning verses with Gowan hanging out there is just not very good. I don't mind the different phrasing; that's not the issue. He hits the notes fine, so his range is OK. My problem is the sound of his voice is just not right; it's too thin, and he warbles a bit when holding long notes (and it sounds like he goes slightly out of tune at the end). You can say Dennis went "Broadway" at some point (which he's dialed back since), but this is the opposite end of the spectrum in not a good way. Ironically, the double tracking (and adding Tommy in for harmonies) for everything past this is MUCH better (and is more pleasant than on GI), but still not very good. As I've said numerous times, I like Gowan on his tunes, but he's all kinds of wrong for singing some of the Dennis ones. It's a blessing and curse, because he brings a lot to the table for Styx.

I have no huge issues with this musically. It's somewhat like their live version, but more in line with the old studio one at the same time. The most disappointing thing is the guitar work. Until the end, it's a bit muddy in the mix, which could be a mixing issue, not a playing issue.

The best part about this track? Todd's drumming. He bridges what John did with also making it his own. Kudos.

If they really wanted to polarize people, this is arguably one of the tracks to do it. If I had a #2 on a list of "Please let Tommy sing this song instead of Gowan" songs after "Queen of Spades", it's this one. It's irked me since I first saw them with Gowan. I disliked it then, and the studio version makes it that much more glaring.

[Born4adventure]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Only sing /play Dennis when I want my guests to leave.

Then given that he sings 60% of their songs, you really can't consider yourself a Styxfan, so why don't you go the fuck away?

60 %.Isn't that something.
On Regeneration it is 0%.

Damn straight. Dennis would never stoop to such levels...

And by the way, I was off...its more like 70% of all Styx songs.

70%???? More like 40%

[StyxCollector]

... Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Straight on.
To re-record Dennis' material just invites band slammage. Why put themselves through that?

New Music. Please.

I don't think anyone who is a fan of Styx would argue they'd rather hear new stuff (even if it's crap) over covers or re-records. I look at this release as a momento of the upcoming shows/tchatcke to sell. I may rag, but I'll be the first to admit that what I have heard is better than I thought it would be, but I had fairly low expectations to begin with. I'm honestly more curious to hear the Tommy tracks than Gowan doing Dennis' tracks. Same for JY - I'm more curious t hear his Lorelei on proverbial tape since I've never found him doing it particularly bad.

This release is not going to convert anyone who dislikes Gowan in Styx to love him. It's not the worst thing ever (which I'm seeing people essentially claim it is), but it's also not going to make people forget the originals. It may even have a more polarizing effect, but that remains to be seen. All I know is that Dennis still gets paid either way since they would need to pay him mechanical royalties on the songs he wrote or co-wrote. Beyond that, let everyone debate this to death lol

[Keiferb]

Pure gold,what more can be said.

No more limp wet noodle singing.
We now have the real Al Dente.

In cooking, the Italian expression al dente describes pasta and (less commonly) rice or beans that have been cooked so as to be firm but not hard.

Great we have a cook singing Dennis DeYoung brilliant.

Can't take it can you??

Regurgitation perfect name for this cd, You hear Gowan sing and up comes the pasta.

Hey, you're stealing my lines.

[Keiferb]

Come Sail Away is now on the tube from the same user.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ubLMWQ ... re=channel

Beyond everett and born4 (same person btw) and babyblue (maybe also same person) opinions, this really is awful...it truly is very sad. The first half of the song, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. I wonder went on in the studio during this. After they recorded it, played it back, did they really think to themselves "This is great. Let's include it on the album" ? Clearly, Tommy and JY are back on drugs, because that could be the only reason that explains why they would want to put this out on a record of any sort. I agree the musicianship is fine and the harmonies are better than the grand Illusion's, but the first 3 minutes of the song are just pathetically excruciating. Guys, here is a suggestion for you...maybe next time don't recreate your signature song without your signature vocalist. I don't care what dollars you see in your eyes. Because this makes a mockery of the entire concept.

As froy said, how sad. It really is. If I didn't know how they got themselves into this position, I would kind of feel sorry for these guys.

Amen. Gowan is a warbler, and sounds like a Billy Goat. I thought this quote from a poster on youtube says it all: "The vocals are truly awful....its almost like they are trying to destroy whatever dignity's left of this once great band". How sad. I would rather they came up with new music. I thought Cyclorama was a pretty good disc - including Gowan's contributions. He seems OK on his own damn songs. Maybe because he writes song conducive to his narrow range. They should be embarrassed. I agree Toph, how could they, as a a collection, have listened to the first couple of minutes, and said "Man, that sounds great! Nice job Larry!" Good Lord.

[ChicagoSTYX]

I like the 2nd half of this song better then the old one. Todd does great job on this.

[pinkfloyd1973]

There's a minute and a half (that's all I could stand before I had to turn it off) that i'll never get back. That really did suck

[StyxCollector]

Todd does great job on this.

I think that's about the only point most of us here would agree on.

[LtVanish]

Wilma said


We don't really give a fig what you think either.Fred

Go wash they dishes ok Wilma.

Sorry we are not living in the 50's anymore dirtbag.

You have a problem with me??Then pm or other wise shut up dude.

Nice try tough guy. Not going to work

I just checked still not a guy.

Yeah but Evertt says you look like Ernest Borgnine.

[Boomchild]

... Tommy and JY need to make an album of all new material. And if they insist on re-recording old songs they need to leave Dennis material out of it.

Straight on.
To re-record Dennis' material just invites band slammage. Why put themselves through that?

New Music. Please.

It's because they feel they have a better chance at making a buck by rehashing their (or Dennis' if you will) past material that sold records. Plus, it's easier to rerecord something you've already done then write and record new material. I imagine it takes less time as well which fits their plan of touring all the time.

[Boomchild]

Come Sail Away is now on the tube from the same user.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ubLMWQ ... re=channel

This sounds like a tribute band to me. The synth parts are cheesy, the harmonies are still week. They really should have left this stuff as it was. This may cause them more grief then praise. Although the bathwater drinkers will think this is the best thing since sliced bread.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I do enjoy Todd's drumming, but what bothers me the most of re-recording these old songs is not that it only removes Dennis' vocals/harmonies & keyboard playing, it's like they're erasing John's drum playing and history. It's really sad.
(I'm going to keep reposting this same statement in all the threads)