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If Styx were to record a new album and sell it at a decent price, would you buy it?

Yes- I wish they would.
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No- I'd rather pretend it's 1983 and keep griping at the band.
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:26 am

Babyblue wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
froy wrote:
brywool wrote:
They're not losing money with Gowan. They're a touring machine.


So what 30 thousand a show split 10 ways is 3000 per man
With Dennis and a not burned out name and a great new cd 100 Years they would have made much more and toured less



As much as I like Dennis, if the band wanted to WORK, they made the right decision.


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Do you hear that Todd we want Dennis back in your shitty band.


So 2 people want Dennis back in Styx?
That sure speaks volumes.




:lol: :lol: It must have been fred both times then. :lol: :lol: :wink:


Indeed.
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:26 am

Keiferb wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Yes,but I would like them to make a set of songs, that would lean towards the style of Equinox.


I bet you would sorry Gowan is incapable of anything close to Equinox.
Nice bait pal.


Gowan can sing anything. :wink:


Please. I beg you. Stop it.



I can not stop playing "Home Field" on my CD player in the car.Thanks Mr G :wink: Great CD everyone should have it.Love, love "Wild Summer Nights" Hey & Pigeon is on it.SWEET!!!!! :D
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:38 am

Babyblue wrote:
Keiferb wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Yes,but I would like them to make a set of songs, that would lean towards the style of Equinox.




I can not stop playing "Home Field" on my CD player in the car.Thanks Mr G :wink: Great CD everyone should have it.Love, love "Wild Summer Nights" Hey & Pigeon is on it.SWEET!!!!! :D


Stoned again?
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:48 am

froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Keiferb wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Yes,but I would like them to make a set of songs, that would lean towards the style of Equinox.




I can not stop playing "Home Field" on my CD player in the car.Thanks Mr G :wink: Great CD everyone should have it.Love, love "Wild Summer Nights" Hey & Pigeon is on it.SWEET!!!!! :D


Stoned again?



Why would i need drugs anyway? :lol: Me thinks you feel out of your tree again.
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Postby TotoFan77 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:44 am

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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:55 am

TotoFan77 wrote:Why would ANYONE want to see a new Styx without Dennis? Can someone please explain that because I don't get it.

I refuse to support Styx until they stop trying to erase Dennis from the band's history. It's pathetic.


They don't know how to explain it. Their way is to just pretend Dennis was never in the band.
All I have gotten from Todd is they just want to play and get paid.
They don't want to put out new music because everyone will steal it and they won't make any money off of it.
They are releasing 4 Volumes of rehashed music because they want a 30 dollar cd they can sell at shows for the next 5 years even though it costs 1 dollar to print a cd these days. I guess they won't steal rehashed music just new music.
They plan on piecing the songs together by sending email files to each other so they can save money by not paying a producer or studio time
he said it cost 1500 per hour and they can't afford that kind of cash
Todd has a big water bill so he needs to play in STYX to make money and pay his bills.
Todd does not understand why everyone is mad because he see's 7000 fans showing up to see 3 bands and they all look happy and drunk.
Todd thinks Gowan can play his dick off but he does not mention anything about his singing which sounds like he got it cut off.
Todd never mentioned Dennis because he knows if he did he would get fired.

Does that explain it?
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:16 pm

TotoFan77 wrote:I'm so fucking confused. What does ANY of this have to do with Todd? Are you refering to some interview?

Isn't Styx run completely by Young and Shaw?


Yes Todd was the last one to speak to Styx fans and that's what he said in the interview.
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:19 pm

TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:21 pm

Born4adventure wrote:they've done 3 albums in the last 7 years that's a lot compared to other bands


Let's put it in perspective - ONE album of all new tunes, and a smattering of other original/new tracks. BBT is an album of covers, so it doesn't count. OWE is essentially a live album that happens to have a few new tracks.

So you claiming they've done three albums is very misleading. If you're comparing, their output and Dennis' is roughly similar in terms of new song output (one full album and a smattering of other songs on other releases).
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:27 pm

TotoFan77 wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.



So did they piss away all their money from the 70's and 80's?


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Postby Born4adventure » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:29 pm

froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work
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Postby Born4adventure » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:32 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:33 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.
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Postby Born4adventure » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:36 pm

froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.


30 thousand would be the absolute lowest. the casinos pay in the 100 thousands
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:50 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.


30 thousand would be the absolute lowest. the casinos pay in the 100 thousands


Casino Rama paid Roger Hodgson 40 thousand per gig With casinos who knows,
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:00 pm

Born4adventure wrote:jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


But take out expenses, management, etc., it's less. Then you split up the money - somehow I truly doubt anyone but JY and Tommy get the lion's share. I think the other guys make a great living (easily six figures) for what they do, but I don't think everyone clears millions. Then take taxes off of that ... so it's considerably less in the grand scheme of things.

Good gig if you can get it ... there's a reason they're still on the road.
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Postby Born4adventure » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:47 pm

froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.


30 thousand would be the absolute lowest. the casinos pay in the 100 thousands


Casino Rama paid Roger Hodgson 40 thousand per gig With casinos who knows,


they also paid stevie nicks one million for a two night stay
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Postby Born4adventure » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:49 pm

froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.


30 thousand would be the absolute lowest. the casinos pay in the 100 thousands


Casino Rama paid Roger Hodgson 40 thousand per gig With casinos who knows,


casinos are where the money is touring. probably a lot of the reason styx doesn't play as many of the arena type shows they could, casinos are money machines. think of it this way; a ticket costs 80 bucks, they spend 200 on the hotel, another 200 on food, and another 300 on gambling. that's a hell of a lot of dough
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:58 pm

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Born4adventure wrote:jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


But take out expenses, management, etc., it's less. Then you split up the money - somehow I truly doubt anyone but JY and Tommy get the lion's share. I think the other guys make a great living (easily six figures) for what they do, but I don't think everyone clears millions. Then take taxes off of that ... so it's considerably less in the grand scheme of things.

Good gig if you can get it ... there's a reason they're still on the road.


That's why they are doing it. That's where the best money for them is. I think people need to accept the fact that Styx is not going to release a full album of new material. The members that have spoken about it point to that. It is very clear that this is not something that they are interested in doing. Time to wake up and smell the coffee folks.
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Postby yogi » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:46 pm

This is why Tommy, JY and the rest know that a 2 disc CD with nothing but Blue Collar Man done different ways and with different artists makes TOTAL sense.

Who could resist hearing this tune played on nothing but spoons? How about Todd & Fonzies Drum & Bongo version???

These guys and their management team are not dummies. When you hear Suzzane & Carrie Ann humming this classic back stage + Taylor Swift's & The Jonas Brothers new versions. MASTERPIECE(SP)!!!( i before e except after c is that correct Froy?)

This is a MUST purchase!!!!!!!!!
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:21 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.


that's not how touring bands work


jy did an interview with that guy who wrote the styx book a while back. styx nets 20 million a year


In your dreams pal 30 thousand per show Ask any promoter.


30 thousand would be the absolute lowest. the casinos pay in the 100 thousands


Casino Rama paid Roger Hodgson 40 thousand per gig With casinos who knows,


they also paid stevie nicks one million for a two night stay


I believe it
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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:22 am

froy wrote:
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They're not losing money with Gowan. They're a touring machine.


So what 30 thousand a show split 10 ways is 3000 per man
With Dennis and a not burned out name and a great new cd 100 Years they would have made much more and toured less



As much as I like Dennis, if the band wanted to WORK, they made the right decision.


It's not the amount of shitty shows they did it's the amount of Quality shows they could have done.
Huge mistake

Look at the numbers 8 out of 11 would buy a new album of new music. That's a pretty good ratio, especially for this place.


Wow 8 people would buy a new cd and you say that's good?


Would I like Dennis back in the band? Of course.


Do you hear that Todd we want Dennis back in your shitty band.



Froy- with Dennis the band would NOT be selling out huge arenas. It's 2010, not 1983.
8 out of 11 responses, not 8 people. Only 11 responded and now it's even more.
That's 88%. That's huge. Styx- take NOTE. 88% of your fractured fanbase in the
bitchiest, whiniest group of crybabies online will support you with a new album.
I will expect it by Christmas!! ;)

100 Years would've done well as a Styx album, minus a few lame tracks. I agree with you.
100 Years is a good album. Of course it'd be nice to have Dennis in the band. But not Roboto Dennis. Or First Time Dennis.
How about Private Jones Dennis?? How about Grand Illusion Dennis. He seems to have kind of woken up a bit with 100 Years
and seems to have realized that he has a lot to offer as a ROCK musician and not something in the lounge territory.

As far as "shi**y shows"- All the clips I've seen of Styx have been great. Many of the clips I've seen of Dennis have
not been as good and have not been something that'd go over in an arena. Styx's shows are geared to arenas,
Dennis' do not seem to be, though the Niagra Falls thing looked pretty cool... if he could just dump the robot bit.

That's the thing with this MR group- There are two guys here (maybe a few more) that just refuse to
even open their minds to the new band. You guys are going to say the same thing no matter what.

The poll question really had NOTHING to do with Dennis. It was "Would you buy a new CD from this STYX?"
Clearly, that answer is YES. If the poll was "Are you going to buy the remakes that the band is presently selling?"
I'm sure the answer'd be NO.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby froy » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:28 am

"brywool"


The poll question really had NOTHING to do with Dennis. It was "Would you buy a new CD from this STYX?"
Clearly, that answer is YES. If the poll was "Are you going to buy the remakes that the band is presently selling?"
I'm sure the answer'd be NO


I would buy a new Styx cd if it was really STYX Right now it's not STYX at all just 2 guys who got the name and are burning it to the ground.
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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:34 am

froy wrote:
"brywool"


The poll question really had NOTHING to do with Dennis. It was "Would you buy a new CD from this STYX?"
Clearly, that answer is YES. If the poll was "Are you going to buy the remakes that the band is presently selling?"
I'm sure the answer'd be NO


I would buy a new Styx cd if it was really STYX Right now it's not STYX at all just 2 guys who got the name and are burning it to the ground.


So you're a no. Okay. That's no surprise.
I'd buy new albums from either camp. Always have.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby yogi » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:41 am

So who is buying Styx's 2011 2 disc release of nothing but Blue Collar Man?

I for 1 am down with it!!!!

P.S. You can'T dismiss the power of this song. It's a working mans anthem. It's Glen Beck on steroids. If a major lable would pick this up it would ship triple platinum!!
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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:45 am

yogi wrote:So who is buying Styx's 2011 2 disc release of nothing but Blue Collar Man?

I for 1 am down with it!!!!

P.S. You can'T disniss the power of this song. It's a working mans anthem. It's Glen Beck on steroids. If a major lable would pick this up it would ship triple platinum!!


I can't buy it. I'm saving all my money for "Eddie" the Movie.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby Ash » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:57 am

TotoFan77 wrote:
froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:How can they not afford 1500 dollars an hour for a producer? Aren't they all millionaires? How broke are they?


They are not making anything like people think they are, Styx gets 30 grand per show split about 10 ways or 3000 each and then tax it.



So did they piss away all their money from the 70's and 80's?




$30 Grand Per Show? That's a joke right?

I was considering hiring a much lesser known, yet popular 90's band for my wedding and they wanted 20K for the show.

Styx is likely more along the 100K, 150K per show realm. They have all their own lights and gear and what not.

Styx may make 20 mil a year, but not just from touring. Gotta throw Swag and other stuff in there also.... album sales, etc. Styx is a corporation not just a band. He's likely referrring to Styx the corporation.

Bands strike different deals depending on the venue and the promoter. Deals may include a portion of the ticket sales in lieu of a large up-front fee or some kind of split. Could also include concessions. Just depends on the deal they strike with the promoter/venue. I'm sure there are guarantees in terms of minimums tho
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