Monker wrote:Boomchild wrote:Monker wrote:pinkfloyd1973 wrote:StyxCollector wrote:pinkfloyd1973 wrote:Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?
How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore?![]()
It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.
Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about
Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.
Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.
It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.
I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.
No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.
The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.
True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.
It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.