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Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:43 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.

The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.

True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.


It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.
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Postby Baron Von Bielski » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:59 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.

The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.

True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.


It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.


That's kinda the case with a lot of bands that have but a few original members. They hire the remaining bandmates under the guise of employee. Part of me thinks they have every right to do that... they have put in the time. So why should someone who has been with the band a fraction of the time get an equal share. It's a good argument.
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Postby Toph » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:26 am

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:what cracks me up is how folks want to point out how much tommy wanted to rock...but the comment was centered around a time in their career shortly after they had just released their hardest rocking album ever in pieces of eight and it was 19 fucking 79.......so it's not OK in the 32 since that time to have your musical tastes change? or have some fun and revisit your bluegrass roots? let if fucking go.


Get your facts straight. He said that after Kilroy was Here - "I just had all these rock songs inside me and nowhere for them to go"....and as a result we got that head bangin' masterpiece.."Girls With Guns"...


look dicknose.....i know when the fuck he said but it was referring to THAT time in the band's history....god youre stupid.


Clearly not as stupid as someone who takes a quote and tries to apply it to 5 years and four albums earlier....
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Postby masque » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:33 am

Toph wrote:
masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:what cracks me up is how folks want to point out how much tommy wanted to rock...but the comment was centered around a time in their career shortly after they had just released their hardest rocking album ever in pieces of eight and it was 19 fucking 79.......so it's not OK in the 32 since that time to have your musical tastes change? or have some fun and revisit your bluegrass roots? let if fucking go.


Get your facts straight. He said that after Kilroy was Here - "I just had all these rock songs inside me and nowhere for them to go"....and as a result we got that head bangin' masterpiece.."Girls With Guns"...


look dicknose.....i know when the fuck he said but it was referring to THAT time in the band's history....god youre stupid.


Clearly not as stupid as someone who takes a quote and tries to apply it to 5 years and four albums earlier....


when you wake up in the mornings do you realize you're a fucking retard loser or do you have to be reminded everyday???
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Postby Ash » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:43 am

masque wrote:when you wake up in the mornings do you realize you're a fucking retard loser or do you have to be reminded everyday???


You need to take a chill pill.
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Postby Keiferb » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:14 am

Haven't posted in a while. Nice to see you can drop off the grid, come back, and see not much has changed.

Peace to you all - Gowan lovers included.
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Postby Babyblue » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:21 am

Keiferb wrote:Haven't posted in a while. Nice to see you can drop off the grid, come back, and see not much has changed.

Peace to you all - Gowan lovers included.


See it will never change around her. :lol: Thanks, you know how i feel about "Gowan" :wink: :lol:
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Postby Toph » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:26 am

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:what cracks me up is how folks want to point out how much tommy wanted to rock...but the comment was centered around a time in their career shortly after they had just released their hardest rocking album ever in pieces of eight and it was 19 fucking 79.......so it's not OK in the 32 since that time to have your musical tastes change? or have some fun and revisit your bluegrass roots? let if fucking go.


Get your facts straight. He said that after Kilroy was Here - "I just had all these rock songs inside me and nowhere for them to go"....and as a result we got that head bangin' masterpiece.."Girls With Guns"...


look dicknose.....i know when the fuck he said but it was referring to THAT time in the band's history....god youre stupid.


Clearly not as stupid as someone who takes a quote and tries to apply it to 5 years and four albums earlier....


when you wake up in the mornings do you realize you're a fucking retard loser or do you have to be reminded everyday???


Ooh, aren't you a pleasant individual?
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Postby Ash » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:54 am

If we'd stop feeding the trolls, they'd go away.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:34 pm

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:what cracks me up is how folks want to point out how much tommy wanted to rock...but the comment was centered around a time in their career shortly after they had just released their hardest rocking album ever in pieces of eight and it was 19 fucking 79.......so it's not OK in the 32 since that time to have your musical tastes change? or have some fun and revisit your bluegrass roots? let if fucking go.


Get your facts straight. He said that after Kilroy was Here - "I just had all these rock songs inside me and nowhere for them to go"....and as a result we got that head bangin' masterpiece.."Girls With Guns"...


look dicknose.....i know when the fuck he said but it was referring to THAT time in the band's history....god youre stupid.


Take a chill pill or I'll show you the door.
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Postby Monker » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:01 pm

Baron Von Bielski wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.

The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.

True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.


It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.


That's kinda the case with a lot of bands that have but a few original members. They hire the remaining bandmates under the guise of employee. Part of me thinks they have every right to do that... they have put in the time. So why should someone who has been with the band a fraction of the time get an equal share. It's a good argument.


That is somewhat true. It is also very presumptuous to look at Styx, or Journey, or Foreigner, or any other 80's band and say the reasons those members are not their are for power and money...and not only ignore the facts of what was going on at that time, but call it BS. That speaks a ton more about the bias of the writer then the truth of what really happened.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:35 pm

Monker wrote:
Baron Von Bielski wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.

The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.

True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.


It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.


That's kinda the case with a lot of bands that have but a few original members. They hire the remaining bandmates under the guise of employee. Part of me thinks they have every right to do that... they have put in the time. So why should someone who has been with the band a fraction of the time get an equal share. It's a good argument.


That is somewhat true. It is also very presumptuous to look at Styx, or Journey, or Foreigner, or any other 80's band and say the reasons those members are not their are for power and money...and not only ignore the facts of what was going on at that time, but call it BS. That speaks a ton more about the bias of the writer then the truth of what really happened.


While they may have had issues with each other over different things, in the end it seems to me it was more about control and money. In the case of Styx with all of the statements made by TS and JY over the music they could not get put on their albums they have produced very little of anything different from before. Instead they put out rerecords of stuff the fans have heard thousands of times. If they have the money and the ability to produce these rerecords then they should be able to do the same with new material. One would think that they would be jumping at the chance since they were rejected for so long in the past.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:40 pm

Baron Von Bielski wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


No, what's BS is you believing this being 'the reason' Dennis is out of the band.

The reason he is out of the band is he was splitting his time between Styx and Hunchback even before BNW was recorded, refused to tour, became a whiney bitch after they started touring without him, and then sued the band. You can make any excuses you want...but that's the bottom line.

True, I don't think they were happy with some of the song choices prior to Kilroy, and Kilroy as a whole, but I absolutely do not believe that is why he is out of the band today. Also, without Dennis being so controlling, they had a bit more freedom to do what they wanted to do...which is to be a 'rock band'....and not some band doing Hunchback tunes.


It was alll about money and control of the band. The rest of it is just a bullshit smoke screen. I would be willing to bet that both TS and JY wanted a larger amount of the pie and have employees rather then full fledged band members that they wouldn't have to give up more.


That's kinda the case with a lot of bands that have but a few original members. They hire the remaining bandmates under the guise of employee. Part of me thinks they have every right to do that... they have put in the time. So why should someone who has been with the band a fraction of the time get an equal share. It's a good argument.


I don't feel it's an issue with having employees of a band over making them full fledged members. It's more about how it came about. Stabbing your life long band mate in the back to achieve the upper hand is dirty.
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Postby brywool » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:21 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:You mean like "These Are the Times" on Cyclorama, which Dennis axed because he had forgotten what a Styx song should sound like?




How can Dennis axe the song when he wasn't even in the band anymore? :?


It was supposedly presented for BNW and rejected. TaTT really doesn't sound like classic Styx to me to be honest. Classic rock, yes. Some parts of Cyclorama were more progressive than anything Styx has done since the WN days.



Thank you for the clarification, some people come in here with ASSumptions and half-truths. It's nice to see that someone KNOWS what they're talking about :?


Actually, I think he is wrong...It was to be one of the "new" songs on "Return to Paradise" but Dennis didn't like it and axed it. Don't know where he gets the 'supposedly' part since it was the band who said it, Tommy I believe, in interviews after Cyclorama was released. So, unless he is going to admit to being biased against them and is calling them liars...that part is wrong too. I'd love to reread the interview that proves this one way or the other...but since it is from 8 or 9yrs ago, I doubt that will happen. I would also like to know how Dennis had any power to 'reject' songs for BNW...since he seemed to be cut off from the rest of the band and obviously did not have much input on their songs at all.

Also, IMO, it is the most 'classic' sounding Styx songs released in decades...cut from the same cloth as Snowblind.

It is also nice for you to ASSume that I don't know what I'm talking about when arguing against BS posts from Boomchild.


I see so it's BS that TS, CP and JY forced Dennis out of the band because they felt restricted in what types of songs were being selected for albums and there wasn't enough rocking songs. So after they force Dennis out nothing about what they do is really any different. Face it, they are just riding on their past and their statements about having this rocking music they couldn't do must be BS.


They forced him out because he didn't want to or couldn't tour. They forced him out because he believed that he had more of a say in the direction of the band than anyone else. They forced him out because he didn't have time for them because of Hunchback, etc. Dennis is now doing his own thing. Styx is now doing their own thing. Jeez, get over it peeps.
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Postby froy » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:41 am

"brywool"


They forced him out because he didn't want to or couldn't tour.


What a bunch of losers


They forced him out because he believed that he had more of a say in the direction of the band than anyone else.


He was right He did

They forced him out because he didn't have time for them because of Hunchback, etc.


Too bad
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Postby Monker » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:51 am

froy wrote:
"brywool"


They forced him out because he didn't want to or couldn't tour.


What a bunch of losers


They forced him out because he believed that he had more of a say in the direction of the band than anyone else.


He was right He did

They forced him out because he didn't have time for them because of Hunchback, etc.


Too bad


Exactly froyline, "Too bad". It's just comical watching some of you people deal with a decision made 10yrs ago. You have your version of Styx with DDY replacing the rest of the band. You should be happy with that. Instead, you just can't deal with the fact that the rest of the band no longer accept him as a part of the band - and many fans just don't care, or even agree that he shouldn't be there.
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Postby Boomchild » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:15 pm

Monker wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"


They forced him out because he didn't want to or couldn't tour.


What a bunch of losers


They forced him out because he believed that he had more of a say in the direction of the band than anyone else.


He was right He did

They forced him out because he didn't have time for them because of Hunchback, etc.


Too bad


Exactly froyline, "Too bad". It's just comical watching some of you people deal with a decision made 10yrs ago. You have your version of Styx with DDY replacing the rest of the band. You should be happy with that. Instead, you just can't deal with the fact that the rest of the band no longer accept him as a part of the band - and many fans just don't care, or even agree that he shouldn't be there.


It's also comical how you feel it's not a big deal anymore but, as soon as someone brings it up you are right there to chime in. If it's no longer an issue and you don't care, why bother replying? Since it only seems to help keep the subject going which you seem to feel is no longer worth a discussion. Not all of us feel that DDY's band is our version of Styx. In fact for me neither of them are what Styx was. Without each other they are both just trying to capture what Styx was. But it's not going to happen. All in all I still prefer to hear Dennis perform the songs he did in Styx then someone else trying to pull that off.
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:39 am

Boomchild wrote:It's also comical how you feel it's not a big deal anymore but, as soon as someone brings it up you are right there to chime in.


Whatever...it's the only thing that is ever really posted about here any longer. Sure, you may take 5mins to talk about Tommy's new album. Even then the thread is taken over by petty talk of fantasies about what JY thinks of it and comparisons to DDY doing solo work. As a whole, that is what this forum now consists of. so, sorry, but I just go where the forum goes.

If it's no longer an issue and you don't care, why bother replying?


Why not? If I want to, I will.

Since it only seems to help keep the subject going which you seem to feel is no longer worth a discussion.


Repeating the same opinion over and over again is not a 'discussion'.

Not all of us feel that DDY's band is our version of Styx.


Idiot. What I mean is that DDY's band is your version of the current Styx...and by 'your' I mean the 'other side'.

Without each other they are both just trying to capture what Styx was.


BNW should prove that even when together they can't recapture what Styx 'was'.

All in all I still prefer to hear Dennis perform the songs he did in Styx then someone else trying to pull that off.


Like I have said before, people like you whine when they do play DDY songs, and other people whine when they do. So, Styx has no reason to listen to ANY of you whiny bitches.
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Postby Baron Von Bielski » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:46 am

I will go on record that I support both Styx and DDY and will buy anything that either puts out musically for sale. If either of them come near me to perform a show... I will go. That being said... I would prefer DDY back in the band. I have said before that I don't have any issues with Gowan or any bandmates, but I'm really not fond of his voice... especially on DDY penned songs. I think he's a great keyboardist and I do like A Criminal Mind, but I don't like either of his songs on Cyclorama. Also, I'd like to see Glen back on bass/rhythm guitar. He obviously brought something Phillips doesn't. Plus, it again would allow them to perform a song or two fro EotC. I realize that none of this will ever happen and that is too bad... they could really have something special again. But, I'm content with what we have in the present and look forward to the GI/PoE DVD.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 pm

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Boomchild wrote:It's also comical how you feel it's not a big deal anymore but, as soon as someone brings it up you are right there to chime in.


Whatever...it's the only thing that is ever really posted about here any longer. Sure, you may take 5mins to talk about Tommy's new album. Even then the thread is taken over by petty talk of fantasies about what JY thinks of it and comparisons to DDY doing solo work. As a whole, that is what this forum now consists of. so, sorry, but I just go where the forum goes.

If it's no longer an issue and you don't care, why bother replying?


Why not? If I want to, I will.

Since it only seems to help keep the subject going which you seem to feel is no longer worth a discussion.


Repeating the same opinion over and over again is not a 'discussion'.

Not all of us feel that DDY's band is our version of Styx.


Idiot. What I mean is that DDY's band is your version of the current Styx...and by 'your' I mean the 'other side'.

Without each other they are both just trying to capture what Styx was.


BNW should prove that even when together they can't recapture what Styx 'was'.

All in all I still prefer to hear Dennis perform the songs he did in Styx then someone else trying to pull that off.


Like I have said before, people like you whine when they do play DDY songs, and other people whine when they do. So, Styx has no reason to listen to ANY of you whiny bitches.


So you feel repeating or keeping the same opinion on a subject is not a discussion right? Then you are just as guilty of what you accuse people that have a different opinion. Also, I have never complained that the current Styx is playing DDY material. In fact, I have said that they can do what ever the want to do. That doesn't mean that I will care for it and not post my opinion. The posts in this forum go the direction they do because Styx' fan base is divided by the split between the band members. It will more then likely stay that way who knows. Everyone has the right to post what they want. You may not agree or like it but thats the way it is. What is sad is how some take the posts and turn them into personal attacks on each other with the name calling and personal insults.
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Postby Baron Von Bielski » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:02 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:It's also comical how you feel it's not a big deal anymore but, as soon as someone brings it up you are right there to chime in.


Whatever...it's the only thing that is ever really posted about here any longer. Sure, you may take 5mins to talk about Tommy's new album. Even then the thread is taken over by petty talk of fantasies about what JY thinks of it and comparisons to DDY doing solo work. As a whole, that is what this forum now consists of. so, sorry, but I just go where the forum goes.

If it's no longer an issue and you don't care, why bother replying?


Why not? If I want to, I will.

Since it only seems to help keep the subject going which you seem to feel is no longer worth a discussion.


Repeating the same opinion over and over again is not a 'discussion'.

Not all of us feel that DDY's band is our version of Styx.


Idiot. What I mean is that DDY's band is your version of the current Styx...and by 'your' I mean the 'other side'.

Without each other they are both just trying to capture what Styx was.


BNW should prove that even when together they can't recapture what Styx 'was'.

All in all I still prefer to hear Dennis perform the songs he did in Styx then someone else trying to pull that off.


Like I have said before, people like you whine when they do play DDY songs, and other people whine when they do. So, Styx has no reason to listen to ANY of you whiny bitches.


So you feel repeating or keeping the same opinion on a subject is not a discussion right? Then you are just as guilty of what you accuse people that have a different opinion. Also, I have never complained that the current Styx is playing DDY material. In fact, I have said that they can do what ever the want to do. That doesn't mean that I will care for it and not post my opinion. The posts in this forum go the direction they do because Styx' fan base is divided by the split between the band members. It will more then likely stay that way who knows. Everyone has the right to post what they want. You may not agree or like it but thats the way it is. What is sad is how some take the posts and turn them into personal attacks on each other with the name calling and personal insults.


It's like that on most forums like I've said before. Especially ones where the band has "replacements" of original members. Some people can just convey their opinion and even have disagreements albeit intelligent ones where it doesn't turn into a personal attack with schoolyard name calling. But sadly that is usually not the case. So it will continue on.
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Postby Monker » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:18 am

Boomchild wrote:So you feel repeating or keeping the same opinion on a subject is not a discussion right?


Absolutely. It's fucking boring. I knew what was going to be said about Regeneration Vol. 2 before I even came here tonight.

Then you are just as guilty of what you accuse people that have a different opinion.


Sure, when I get into the mundane, repetitive, crap with you or froyline, or Toph, or Ash, or whoever - it's NOT "discussion".

The posts in this forum go the direction they do because Styx' fan base is divided by the split between the band members.


You're wrong. It's because the people who DO like to discuss Styx do not post in this forum....and it doesn't matter what 'side' they lean towards.

Everyone has the right to post what they want.


Wrong again. You have the PRIVILEGE to post here, given to you by Andrew. It is not a 'right'. Andrew can take that privilege away when ever he feels he has a need...or if he has no reason at all and just wants to be an ass. And, there is nothing you can do about it.

You have the 'right' to start your own forum/blog/website/fanzine/etc. and post whatever you want there.

You may not agree or like it but thats the way it is.


And, you may not like being called a whiny bitch, but that's exactly what you are. Dude, it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion.

What is sad is how some take the posts and turn them into personal attacks on each other with the name calling and personal insults.


So? Funny how you like to complain about what other people say, but, in the same post, claim to have the 'right' to post whatever you want. Hypocrite.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:23 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:So you feel repeating or keeping the same opinion on a subject is not a discussion right?


Absolutely. It's fucking boring. I knew what was going to be said about Regeneration Vol. 2 before I even came here tonight.

Then you are just as guilty of what you accuse people that have a different opinion.


Sure, when I get into the mundane, repetitive, crap with you or froyline, or Toph, or Ash, or whoever - it's NOT "discussion".

The posts in this forum go the direction they do because Styx' fan base is divided by the split between the band members.


You're wrong. It's because the people who DO like to discuss Styx do not post in this forum....and it doesn't matter what 'side' they lean towards.

Everyone has the right to post what they want.


Wrong again. You have the PRIVILEGE to post here, given to you by Andrew. It is not a 'right'. Andrew can take that privilege away when ever he feels he has a need...or if he has no reason at all and just wants to be an ass. And, there is nothing you can do about it.

You have the 'right' to start your own forum/blog/website/fanzine/etc. and post whatever you want there.

You may not agree or like it but thats the way it is.


And, you may not like being called a whiny bitch, but that's exactly what you are. Dude, it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion.

What is sad is how some take the posts and turn them into personal attacks on each other with the name calling and personal insults.


So? Funny how you like to complain about what other people say, but, in the same post, claim to have the 'right' to post whatever you want. Hypocrite.


The reason people don't post "discussions" as you put it is because there is nothing new to discuss about this band. They have not done anything in so long to spark a discussion. I have no issue with someone posting on a topic here. It's the name calling and personal attacks which you are so fond of that I disagree with. You can't bring your point across without doing so which just shows how immature you are.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:40 pm

Baron Von Bielski wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:It's also comical how you feel it's not a big deal anymore but, as soon as someone brings it up you are right there to chime in.


Whatever...it's the only thing that is ever really posted about here any longer. Sure, you may take 5mins to talk about Tommy's new album. Even then the thread is taken over by petty talk of fantasies about what JY thinks of it and comparisons to DDY doing solo work. As a whole, that is what this forum now consists of. so, sorry, but I just go where the forum goes.

If it's no longer an issue and you don't care, why bother replying?


Why not? If I want to, I will.

Since it only seems to help keep the subject going which you seem to feel is no longer worth a discussion.


Repeating the same opinion over and over again is not a 'discussion'.

Not all of us feel that DDY's band is our version of Styx.


Idiot. What I mean is that DDY's band is your version of the current Styx...and by 'your' I mean the 'other side'.

Without each other they are both just trying to capture what Styx was.


BNW should prove that even when together they can't recapture what Styx 'was'.

All in all I still prefer to hear Dennis perform the songs he did in Styx then someone else trying to pull that off.


Like I have said before, people like you whine when they do play DDY songs, and other people whine when they do. So, Styx has no reason to listen to ANY of you whiny bitches.


So you feel repeating or keeping the same opinion on a subject is not a discussion right? Then you are just as guilty of what you accuse people that have a different opinion. Also, I have never complained that the current Styx is playing DDY material. In fact, I have said that they can do what ever the want to do. That doesn't mean that I will care for it and not post my opinion. The posts in this forum go the direction they do because Styx' fan base is divided by the split between the band members. It will more then likely stay that way who knows. Everyone has the right to post what they want. You may not agree or like it but thats the way it is. What is sad is how some take the posts and turn them into personal attacks on each other with the name calling and personal insults.


It's like that on most forums like I've said before. Especially ones where the band has "replacements" of original members. Some people can just convey their opinion and even have disagreements albeit intelligent ones where it doesn't turn into a personal attack with schoolyard name calling. But sadly that is usually not the case. So it will continue on.


Exactly, they just don't realize that it shows their insecurities. But who cares since I am only a "whiny bitch". :D
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Postby Monker » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:30 pm

Boomchild wrote:[
The reason people don't post "discussions" as you put it is because there is nothing new to discuss about this band.


What a bunch of bullshit. A tour with Yes, Regeneration 3, and Tommy's album. That's plenty to discuss...but the people who really want to do not even try to. I'll give you a perfect example: Tommy just a radio interview here. Do you think I'll post about it here? HELL NO...why should a give you bitches one more thread to unleash your bitchiness? Not worth the time to type up the post. Discussing Styx is not what this forum is used for.

I have no issue with someone posting on a topic here.


Of course...it just gives you another reason to whine about JY, that Styx doesn't record new music, that they are greedy assholes who stole the band from Dennis...blah, blah, blah.

It's the name calling and personal attacks which you are so fond of that I disagree with. You can't bring your point across without doing so which just shows how immature you are.


So? I don't care. Go bitch to Toph about his antics, cuz he does the same thing. It could be kinda fun to see two whiny bitches bitch at each other!
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:04 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:[
The reason people don't post "discussions" as you put it is because there is nothing new to discuss about this band.


What a bunch of bullshit. A tour with Yes, Regeneration 3, and Tommy's album. That's plenty to discuss...but the people who really want to do not even try to. I'll give you a perfect example: Tommy just a radio interview here. Do you think I'll post about it here? HELL NO...why should a give you bitches one more thread to unleash your bitchiness? Not worth the time to type up the post. Discussing Styx is not what this forum is used for.

I have no issue with someone posting on a topic here.


Of course...it just gives you another reason to whine about JY, that Styx doesn't record new music, that they are greedy assholes who stole the band from Dennis...blah, blah, blah.

It's the name calling and personal attacks which you are so fond of that I disagree with. You can't bring your point across without doing so which just shows how immature you are.


So? I don't care. Go bitch to Toph about his antics, cuz he does the same thing. It could be kinda fun to see two whiny bitches bitch at each other!


So if what is talked about here is not what you like then why bother reading it then?
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