Rolling Stone Article - Styx April 2020

[SuiteMadameBlue]

They replaced a sick colleague in a power and money grab nothing more. Need proof, the first corporation formed by them after Dennis was replaced was called TMB. Two man band. Not three that would have included Chuck. Follow the money.

That is so meaningless. Neal Schon's publishing company, and Journey's after Steve Perry left is NOMOTA....or, "NO MOre TAils"...in reference to Steve Perry wearing a tux on stage. It's just in your face angst and bullshit. Implying it is something more is just more propaganda and politics from you.

It’s always those who have something to regret in their actions who want everyone “ to just move on”. Replacing Dennis was always about money and power. TMB TWO MAN BAND. Neal Schon is apples to oranges, Steve Perry didn’t want to tour anymore and he still doesn’t. And all the bad feelings concerning Glen and Tommy in the early days was not about Dennis. The only reason people attacked Tommy stems from the fact that he quit Styx for a solo career. It’s ok if Tommy records 7Deadly Zens leaving JY with nothing to do but not Dennis for the Hunchback which was a prior commitment. Unlike Zens.

So what? According to Tommy it is also Dennis and the Roboto tour that drove him to drugs and ultimately put his hand through a pane of glass. One quote you will use as proof of something, the other you will dismiss or redirect to mean something else.

Tommy has discussed his drug taking 5 years before Kilroy. And then in BTM where Tommy and that promotion man proudly discuss giving cocaine to radio people in 1977 while promoting CSA. Self medicating seems to have a very long history. Not only during Kilroy Was Here.

This question has been asked of the band MULTIPLE times and they have turned him down multiple times. JY said the famous line "when they play ice hockey on the river Styx" in reference to working with Dennis again. Dennis is ABSOLUTELY using those fan comments as a way to manipulate and control Styx. You are just to blind to see it.

The only reason Tommy and JY won’t work with him is not about his personality that’s a smoke screen, it’s financial. How else can anyone explain the constant meaningless touring. Even their supporters here have wondered.Dennis has been clear, this final tour is for all the fans and to help Styx get into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.
I love Styx and like the majority of Styx fans want one last chance to relive that magic.

In addition, yes I like Dennis a lot - with Styx, his current band and his solo music, you all know that. He's one of my favorite musicians. I was going back and reading more articles and interviews, he never fired anyone. In fact he stopped JY from trying to replace Chuck in the bands beginning and Tommy when wanted a different rhythm section after seeing Foreigner he said no. And he did it in silence never telling the Panozzo’s. Did Dennis threaten to quit after Tommy had all 3 singles off of PO8, None of them reaching the top ten. No.

As it has been posted a few times over the years especially on this site, A&M wanted First Time as a single, Dennis had nothing at all to do with it. Only Tommy threatened to quit the band no one else. Not even JY. Why? Was it jealousy?

[gr8dane]

Is this 1999 or 2020?

We've been hashing this same stuff for over 20 years now.

Disclaimer: I'm credited in the BTM as I provided material for them to use. That said ...

BTM tells a story. They made entertainment. None of us - me, Laurie, Monker, the man on the street corner - lived through it. They did. Was DDY difficult to work with? Maybe. Were JY and TS peaches to work with? Maybe, maybe not. Are *you* always pleasant to be around? I know I have my moments. You'd be lying if you're a ray of sunshine 24x7.

Look at the Michael Jordan documentary, especially the last two parts. I saw that bit of the end of Episode 7. There's a guy who STILL has that competitive fire. Did it make him a jerk to some? Hell yes. Am I saying DDY is MJ? No. But don't delude yourself that bands can always effectively work as a democracy, either. Look at the gaffes of many bands and how most of them hate each other these days. They hang on for a couple of hours on stage and then go their separate ways.

I can tell you that post-Po8 you can hear a difference in the way the band wrote and recorded. Demos and such pre-Cornerstone for the most part sound different and I'll leave it at that. At some point ALL bands become about business - even in ones like Rush where they genuinely did like each other but still almost split apart in the mid-80s. The Styx you hear on the Mantra show - hungry, ready to break it big - is not the same band you hear at Chicago Stadium basically 18 months later which seems to be on automatic pilot. Styx, give or take, has been doing a variation of that '78 show now more often than not for 40 years with some songs rotating in and out.

I think we all know a reunion won't happen. It doesn't mean *some* fans or even Dennis on some level don't want it - many do. Just like other fans hate DDY and ballads, and just want to hear Styx as it is today. Neither viewpoint is wrong, but neither is necessarily right. At the end of the day they are both opinions. Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one.

None of them are spring chickens, and with the state of the world today, I'm thankful I got to see them on EOTC, both reunion tours in 96 and 97, and both DDY and Styx numerous times post-99. All of this back and forth and bickering is tiring at this point. Like what you like, hate what you hate, but who gives a flip? There's a very real chance none of us may see DDY or Styx live for the forseeable future ... or ever again.

Exactly.None of us were in Styx and lived it.
So for the Dennis fans who wants him back in Styx,don't have any idea.
All I can say, he must have been ass enough, for them not wanting anything to do with him.
Simples.Get over it.Move on.

Gr8dane when you mentioned “He must have been ass enough for them not wanting anything to do with him”, a few people on here keep repeating JY and Tommy’s talking points which were created for BTM solely to divert attention from the fact that they were replacing a sick band member for money. Where was all this talk about bad Dennis before BTM. I can’t find it. They lied to all of us about his retirement and passing of the baton.

Read Tommys interview with Sterling conducted via phone on May 24, 1993 while in Damn Yankees. Here’s an excerpt of the truth.

SW: The albums say "Produced by Styx". Does that mean that each of you produced your own work?

TS: We each spent more time on our own songs, but Dennis was the guy, he was the anchor there. He knew more of what he was doing than the rest of us did. Knowing what I know now, I see what he was doing then. But at the time I didn't understand why he would just keep working at things. I just wanted to move on to the next thing. Dennis had a real vision, and he knew which song to put more emphasis on to get it through.

SW: Was he as pushy as people portray him as being?

TS: Not pushy, I just think focused. You've got to be able to keep things moving when you're making an album. You just can't keep taking little side trips, otherwise you lose your edge.

SW: Quite a number of people have potrayed him to me as someone they don't like very much.

TS: I think Dennis is very likeable. You know, not everybody gets his humor. He's a very bright, very charming guy. Except for when he's mad at me, I enjoy being around him.

SW: So what is it about him that seems to rub so many people the wrong way?

TS: Well, he's very confident, he's very intelligent, and he suffers no fools.

SW: Sincerely, a lot of people feel like he thinks he's the Lord of the Earth and they are just peons.

TS: (Laughs). I know Dennis better than that, and I know he can come off like that. But I have a lot of respect for Dennis. I think there's more to Dennis than what people know. I think he has more talent than has been appreciated.

SW: Have you seen any of the reviews for Jesus Christ Superstar?

TS: No, but I've talked to people who have been there. They said that he was the best thing in the show.

SW: Believe it or not, that's what reviewers are saying, too. I would never have believed it.

TS: Oh, I would.

SW: Just beause I didn't think they would review him fairly even if he was great.

TS: That is totally his realm. I always felt he wanted to be an actor.

SW: And that's not your thing, obviously.

TS: It's close enough to what I do that I can do it. But I would never claim to be good at it. You could put me in a movie and I would not embarrass you, you know, but I would not see me accept the best actor award. I have an appreciation for the craft, and I haven't studied it. But I know how to sit in front of a camera and not pick my nose, where to hit my mark, and not trip over the furniture.

SW: When you were doing Kilroy, were you pretty uncomfortable?

TS: I was pretty high. (Laughs). I was a little jittery, pretty anxious. (Laughs).

Well Suite,that's all very good, just that's it from 93.
There's gotta be something ,that makes them not want to have anything to do with him any more.
What could it be ?? Why do they not want anything to do with Dennis any more ??
What ,Suite,do you think it is.??
I would love to hear your take on that.

[yogi]

I would think it would be:
1. They felt there’s no way they could go back on the mostly bullshit story they told for BTM.
2. They knew after the BNW tour that they wanted to continue playing 100+ dates a year for years to come and Dennis wouldn’t do it.
3. I’m sure that Tommy & JY get the lions share of the $$$$$ from the shows and DDY would demand the same amount of $$$$$ or more than Tommy & JY.
4. Doing less shows & having to pay Dennis a share at least equal to Tommy & JY would cost Tommy & JY a boatload of $$$$$.
5. Finally to a lesser degree they didn’t want to play Babe, Roboto, The Best of Times , Don’t Let It End & maybe While There’s Still Time which probably DDY would have wanted in the set had he stayed or re entered Styx.

* it’s all about the cash, the lies told,& to a lesser degree the set list.

[gr8dane]

I would think it would be:
1. They felt there’s no way they could go back on the mostly bullshit story they told for BTM.
2. They knew after the BNW tour that they wanted to continue playing 100+ dates a year for years to come and Dennis wouldn’t do it.
3. I’m sure that Tommy & JY get the lions share of the $$$$$ from the shows and DDY would demand the same amount of $$$$$ or more than Tommy & JY.
4. Doing less shows & having to pay Dennis a share at least equal to Tommy & JY would cost Tommy & JY a boatload of $$$$$.
5. Finally to a lesser degree they didn’t want to play Babe, Roboto, The Best of Times , Don’t Let It End & maybe While There’s Still Time which probably DDY would have wanted in the set had he stayed or re entered Styx.

* it’s all about the cash, the lies told,& to a lesser degree the set list.

That's very sweet yogi.
Because they lied about Dennis,they don't want to be with him any more.
You pretty much give Dennis a free pass here.
I will give you the bit about the set list though.

An afterthought here.With all the lies, why would Dennis even want to go back to Styx ??
Oh yes the fans ? Dennis is taking one on the chin ,the sacrifices he is willing to endure.
What a guy.

[yogi]

I’ve seen ‘Current Styx’ 11 times since they split with Dennis. 4 times with Glen and the other 7 times with how the band is now. I thoroughly have enjoyed EVERY ‘Current Styx’ show. I’ve also purchased every album ( all the live ones, CycloramaX3,Big Bang & The Mission X2. I love Cyclorama and The Mission. Locomotive is one of my favorite all time Styx songs. The Mission is one of my top 5 Styx albums.

I’ve also seen DDY 5 times since the split. I enjoyed every one of his shows. I’ve purchased everything that’s he’s put out and I loved his One Hundred Years album. Crossing the Rubicon IMO is the best solo song he’s ever done. I’ve got 2 copies of what he states is his final album already ordered.

I like Gowan, I think he’s fantastic and his voice fits the band. I like Ricky and I loved Glen. But... I want DDY back in Styx for one final tour. I feel at the very least he’s owed that by Tommy, JY, Chuck and Todd. It was his talent, vision, drive and leadership that has allowed them all and their families ( probably for a generation or two to follow) to live very fortunate lives. I’m sure they would of all done well on their own ( especially Tommy) but in no way do I feel they would of had the riches they have now without Dennis.

I also feel they stole his band at a time when he was at his lowest and sick and that’s really shitty. They also formulated a very public ugly & in many instances untrue narrative to steal his band and make him look like the bad guy. What they all said about the Texas Jam @ The Cotton Bowl was absolute and total bullshit. I don’t know about all the other parts because I wasn’t there. But I do also know that Tommy casually blaming Dennis for his drug & alcohol abuse is also bullshit. DDYs leadership must of agreed with them all back in the day when all that $$$$$ was rolling in and they were becoming one of the biggest draws in rock & roll.

[StyxGuy]

Here's an old interview with Dennis. Seems like he doesn't mind stating he was in charge at times and further points out that he chose to put other band members up front because that would make them successful as a whole.

Dennis wasn't going around saying "I wrote Lady, it was a hit, all of my songs are hits and should be the singles and title tracks because I am Styx!"

https://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/ ... ng-07.html

MR: I do because you've got the Styx connection with Glen haven't you?

DDY: I do and you know Glen and I are working together all the time and we're going to do something together. It's just that on this particular record it was important for me to say 'This is me'. If you don't like me Ok, I get it. If you do like me thank you very much and hopefully I'll get the chance to make another record at some point. You understand what I'm saying?

MR: I understand completely. He's a great partner to have around with you live isn't he?

DDY: Oh I think Glen Burtnik, forget live I said this from the beginning, if you go back to Edge of the Century this is what I thought of Glen Burtnik.
When we did Edge of the Century I was the producer. I was absolutely fully in charge of the band and I chose the first single to be a Glen song. That was my choice, to put him out there ahead of myself to establish him and establish the rock identity that he brought to the band. That was my decision. You know we titled the album after one of his songs. It was my decision also during Crystal Ball to call the album Crystal Ball when Tommy first joined. Because I believe Andrew when you're in a band all boats rise with the tide and that's what bands sometimes lose sight of.

[Monker]

First of all, 7DZ and Hunchback are not even really comparable. Hunchback was a thing for years prior to the reunion, and was a thing for years after Dennis was fired. It wasn't just an album, but an entire stage production...and what seemed like an obsession for Dennis.

As for the "what if" that Yogi posted. Again, that's an alternate timeline and fiction. You just don't know what would have really happened, and you are just guessing. For example, I don't think Tommy would have every held up Styx for his own solo work. For example, The Great Divide did not hold anything up. So, if "Hunchback" didn't exist, IMO, they would have either done two full tours and then BNW. So, this is really not any type of factual point at all. It all just based on opinion.

[Monker]

I would think it would be:
1. They felt there’s no way they could go back on the mostly bullshit story they told for BTM.
2. They knew after the BNW tour that they wanted to continue playing 100+ dates a year for years to come and Dennis wouldn’t do it.
3. I’m sure that Tommy & JY get the lions share of the $$$$$ from the shows and DDY would demand the same amount of $$$$$ or more than Tommy & JY.
4. Doing less shows & having to pay Dennis a share at least equal to Tommy & JY would cost Tommy & JY a boatload of $$$$$.
5. Finally to a lesser degree they didn’t want to play Babe, Roboto, The Best of Times , Don’t Let It End & maybe While There’s Still Time which probably DDY would have wanted in the set had he stayed or re entered Styx.

* it’s all about the cash, the lies told,& to a lesser degree the set list.

I completely disagree with this:

Point 1: The BTM happened 20yrs ago. Hardly anybody really cares any longer.
Point 2: I think that would be correct, and probably part of the reason Dennis was fired - the half tour.
Point 3: You are just guessing on this point. I doubt anybody in this forum know the details of the financial arrangements between the current members of Styx, and probably not everything that Dennis gets paid for Styx touring.
Point 4: They would also be playing larger venues and probably not a triple bill, or a coheadlining tour. They would be truly headlining with a true opening band...at least for a reunion tour. In addition, if it were one time "reunion" only, that would bring attention that would carry over into future tours...So, IMO, I don't feel this is a good point at all...in fact, it is a reason TO DO IT...not a reason not to.
Point 5: Correct. The set list would absolutely be a confrontation.

In addition, both Styx and Dennis will have new albums out soon. Styx should not tour with Dennis in the band for a reunion tour while they have a new album out to tour for with Larry singing. And, Dennis would be foolish to tour with Styx when he has a new album out - for the very same reasons.

The bottom line is, if all Styx wanted was more money, they would have done a reunion tour a long time ago. But, I just don't think it is. IMO, they simply do not want to work with the guy ever again...regardless of the money a reunion would earn.

[Monker]

Neal Schon is apples to oranges, Steve Perry didn’t want to tour anymore and he still doesn’t.

It's EXACTLY the same thing. ROR was Journey KWH with Perry taking over and dictating to the band. There is an interview where Neal says he'd show up at the studio strung out from the night before. Perry would look at him and say, "I can see you won't be good for anything today." Then he would cut his solo in one take and leave - because he hated Perry so much at that time. "Open Arms" was Journey's "Babe" in that Neal felt he had nothing to do on that song. There was a huge amount of anger and frustration because Perry refused to tour after their reunion album as well. NOMOTA/TMB is nothing but expressing angst towards the given former member of the band.

And all the bad feelings concerning Glen and Tommy in the early days was not about Dennis. The only reason people attacked Tommy stems from the fact that he quit Styx for a solo career.

You don't know that. You were not there.

Glen shows up on Arsenio and looked like a complete idiot who didn't know what he was doing, looked out of place and that he didn't belong there. Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing Tommy's songs. Tommy caught a backlash of others defending Styx, TommyDroolers, etc.

It's funny how you switch gears...from saying there was no vitriol prior to the BTM, to then making excuses for the vitriol that did exist.

Do you think *I* was saying anything different back then?

A story I have told may times: I remember buying Journey's ROR album the day it came out. I bought it on cassette, I still have it somewhere. I was with a friend of mine and we listened to it together for the first time in his car. We drove around and listened to the whole tape. When it was done, he took it out and handed it to me. He said, "That's too bad. Steve Perry did to Journey what Dennis DeYoung did to Styx."

Saying all of this started with BTM and the fans were united and stuch is such revisionist history and bullshit that I do not believe anybody should even take it seriously. It has been going on for DECADES, despite what Dennis believes, what you are posting and wanting others to believe. What you two are saying complete bullshit.

So what? According to Tommy it is also Dennis and the Roboto tour that drove him to drugs and ultimately put his hand through a pane of glass. One quote you will use as proof of something, the other you will dismiss or redirect to mean something else.

[b]Tommy has discussed his drug taking 5 years before Kilroy.

EXACTLY AS I SAID. One quote you make is proof of something. Other quotes that contradict it are dismissed. Does it ever occur to you that these guys are out there promoting albums and career opportunities available? There is no way Tommy is dumb enough to go out and publicly critique Dennis at a time when he may want to rejoin Styx. But, after Dennis is fired, and there is no turning back...there is nothing stopping these guys from saying exactly what is on their minds.

The only reason Tommy and JY won’t work with him is not about his personality that’s a smoke screen, it’s financial. How else can anyone explain the constant meaningless touring.

Explain the constant touring? It's what their JOB. LOL.

Dennis has been clear, this final tour is for all the fans and to help Styx get into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

He has been harping on it for 20yrs. It's about Dennis getting control of the band one last time...and he is using anything he can to manipulate things to be that way. His album cover harps about it. His singles harp about it.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I thought the writers block happened during the making of Pieces of Eight.

Yogi, are you on Facebook yet????

[yogi]

No but my wife Gina is. I pretty much stay off social media because of my job. PM me

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Neal Schon is apples to oranges, Steve Perry didn’t want to tour anymore and he still doesn’t.

It's EXACTLY the same thing. ROR was Journey KWH with Perry taking over and dictating to the band. There is an interview where Neal says he'd show up at the studio strung out from the night before. Perry would look at him and say, "I can see you won't be good for anything today." Then he would cut his solo in one take and leave - because he hated Perry so much at that time. "Open Arms" was Journey's "Babe" in that Neal felt he had nothing to do on that song. There was a huge amount of anger and frustration because Perry refused to tour after their reunion album as well. NOMOTA/TMB is nothing but expressing angst towards the given former member of the band.

And all the bad feelings concerning Glen and Tommy in the early days was not about Dennis. The only reason people attacked Tommy stems from the fact that he quit Styx for a solo career.

You don't know that. You were not there.

Glen shows up on Arsenio and looked like a complete idiot who didn't know what he was doing, looked out of place and that he didn't belong there. Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing Tommy's songs. Tommy caught a backlash of others defending Styx, TommyDroolers, etc.

It's funny how you switch gears...from saying there was no vitriol prior to the BTM, to then making excuses for the vitriol that did exist.

Do you think *I* was saying anything different back then?

A story I have told may times: I remember buying Journey's ROR album the day it came out. I bought it on cassette, I still have it somewhere. I was with a friend of mine and we listened to it together for the first time in his car. We drove around and listened to the whole tape. When it was done, he took it out and handed it to me. He said, "That's too bad. Steve Perry did to Journey what Dennis DeYoung did to Styx."

Saying all of this started with BTM and the fans were united and stuch is such revisionist history and bullshit that I do not believe anybody should even take it seriously. It has been going on for DECADES, despite what Dennis believes, what you are posting and wanting others to believe. What you two are saying complete bullshit.


Are you getting enough sleep? You’re rambling.
STOP. Read the interview again slowly and let it sink in. That’s Tommy in his own words telling the truth. Then try to shed all your beliefs about Dennis based on lies that you bought into told by Tommy and JY on BTM to hide their real motive for replacing him. MONEY MONEY MONEY.
You are bath water drinker number one even 20 years later. It’s impossible for some to ever admit they’re wrong about anything. When has Dennis ever attacked them personally or their music.

The prior year from that Sterling interview Tommy had sold his rights to the name Styx for five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars why? He had also been publicly making fun of Babe with Ted on the DY tour. He was riding high with DY and had NO plans on returning. Tommy spoke the truth in the interview. You have no idea what you are talking about and never have. As far as substance abuse Tommy himself has admitted his problem started years before Kilroy. This article with Sterling goes into detail concerning this.
And by the way did you notice how Sterling tried his best to get Tommy to say something bad about Dennis in the way he framed the questions but Tommy wouldn’t take the bait. Read those questions, no one should ever quote anything from Sterling’s book again.
And please stop bringing up Journey and Steve Perry it’s meaningless in this discussion. Dennis founded the band and never replaced band members like Steve and his loyalty to the Panozzo’s when JY and Tommy wanted them replaced is the opposite.

So what? According to Tommy it is also Dennis and the Roboto tour that drove him to drugs and ultimately put his hand through a pane of glass. One quote you will use as proof of something, the other you will dismiss or redirect to mean something else.

[b]Tommy has discussed his drug taking 5 years before Kilroy.

EXACTLY AS I SAID. One quote you make is proof of something. Other quotes that contradict it are dismissed. Does it ever occur to you that these guys are out there promoting albums and career opportunities available? There is no way Tommy is dumb enough to go out and publicly critique Dennis at a time when he may want to rejoin Styx. But, after Dennis is fired, and there is no turning back...there is nothing stopping these guys from saying exactly what is on their minds.

The only reason Tommy and JY won’t work with him is not about his personality that’s a smoke screen, it’s financial. How else can anyone explain the constant meaningless touring.

Explain the constant touring? It's what their JOB. LOL.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Dennis has been clear, this final tour is for all the fans and to help Styx get into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

He has been harping on it for 20yrs. It's about Dennis getting control of the band one last time...and he is using anything he can to manipulate things to be that way. His album cover harps about it. His singles harp about it.

Dennis wants to control the band is more of your nonsense because you’ve run out alibis. He wants a one time reunion and your uncalled for jab at his heartfelt homage to his friends John and Chuck regarding the album cover and the “To The Good Old Days“ video is disgraceful. Chuck, John and Dennis were friends. Have a conscience.
Chuck happily gave Dennis permission to use his image. And it’s a beautiful tribute

[SuiteMadameBlue]

And all the bad feelings concerning Glen and Tommy in the early days was not about Dennis. The only reason people attacked Tommy stems from the fact that he quit Styx for a solo career.

You don't know that. You were not there.

Glen shows up on Arsenio and looked like a complete idiot who didn't know what he was doing, looked out of place and that he didn't belong there. Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing Tommy's songs. Tommy caught a backlash of others defending Styx, TommyDroolers, etc.

I don’t think (well at least you got that part right) that Tommy would ever hold up Styx for his own solo work”. LOL. He quit Styx when they were one of the biggest bands in America for a solo career. “Girls With Guns”?

“Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing his songs” whose fault is that? Tommy’s. For Six years Dennis resisted JY and the Panozzo’s plea’s to replace him. When Tommy joined DY it was clear everything was always all about Tommy. Styx never broke up Tommy quit. Selfishness hiding behind that sweet country boy smile.

[hurricane #1]

I bought the BTM shit hook line and sinker at the time: Dennis is a Babe Roboto singing faggot and JY and Tommy just needed to RAWWWWWK. Saw them a shitload of times. Well they only made two albums since Dennis left and one of them sucks a boring dick(The Mission). At this point I'm on Dennis' side: I just want to hear them harmonize together again, specifically Dennis and Tommy. Shit, ya kick out JY and Tommy still gets the same amount of dirty money.

[Monker]

Dennis wants to control the band is more of your nonsense because you’ve run out alibis. He wants a one time reunion and your uncalled for jab at his heartfelt homage to his friends John and Chuck regarding the album cover and the “To The Good Old Days“ video is disgraceful. Chuck, John and Dennis were friends. Have a conscience.
Chuck happily gave Dennis permission to use his image. And it’s a beautiful tribute

Get a brain. I did not say a single thing about the video...I said "the singles".

As soon as I saw the album cover I *KNEW* this is the path things would go down. All he is doing is trying to get himself back into Styx. He has been saying "one more tour" for years now.

[Monker]

I don’t think (well at least you got that part right) that Tommy would ever hold up Styx for his own solo work”. LOL. He quit Styx when they were one of the biggest bands in America for a solo career. “Girls With Guns”?

Correct. He didn't say, "I got this Girls With Guns thing going on, I can only do half a tour." Or, "I have to shoot a video for Girls With Guns so I can't commit to Styx." He quit the band and started something new.

“Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing his songs” whose fault is that? Tommy’s. For Six years Dennis resisted JY and the Panozzo’s plea’s to replace him. When Tommy joined DY it was clear everything was always all about Tommy. Styx never broke up Tommy quit. Selfishness hiding behind that sweet country boy smile.

Now you are just twisting things. It was TOMMY who started the reunion talk that led to the EotC reunion but Dennis kept delaying because of making videos, or whatever. He asked about it three times. The last time he told Dennis that he had the thing with Ted Nugent and Jack Blades and Dennis TOLD HIM TO DO IT. By the time Dennis was ready for Styx, Tommy was committed to DY but since the were all talking again Dennis did not want to waste the moment so he moved forward without Tommy. That is what DENNIS SAID in his first interview with Andrew.

But, that is beside the point. It's NOBODY"s "fault" that fans did not like hearing/seeing Glen singing Tommy's songs. It's just the way it was. The point is, there was "vitriol" LONG before the BTM. The BTM is not some magical dividing line like you are making it out to be.

[Monker]

STOP. Read the interview again slowly and let it sink in. That’s Tommy in his own words telling the truth. Then try to shed all your beliefs about Dennis based on lies that you bought into told by Tommy and JY on BTM to hide their real motive for replacing him. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

You didn't even read what you are replying to. Clear back in 1986 there were fans expressing that Dennis took over the band and sound of Styx to a degree that it destroyed the best of what they were. BTM was not a new thing that everybody bought into. That is just complete bullshit. In fact, I would say it "started" when Cornerstone was released, and intensified when KWH was released and broke up the band.

You are bath water drinker number one even 20 years later. It’s impossible for some to ever admit they’re wrong about anything. When has Dennis ever attacked them personally or their music.

That can not possibly be true when I have believed and expressed these things for over 30yrs.

The prior year from that Sterling interview Tommy had sold his rights to the name Styx for five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars why? He had also been publicly making fun of Babe with Ted on the DY tour. He was riding high with DY and had NO plans on returning. Tommy spoke the truth in the interview. You have no idea what you are talking about and never have. As far as substance abuse Tommy himself has admitted his problem started years before Kilroy. This article with Sterling goes into detail concerning this.
And by the way did you notice how Sterling tried his best to get Tommy to say something bad about Dennis in the way he framed the questions but Tommy wouldn’t take the bait. Read those questions, no one should ever quote anything from Sterling’s book again.

I know all of this. So what.
Yes, he made fun of "Babe", which I mentioned in a previous post. And, when Dennis whined about it, he apologized and promised that he would never do it again...and he didn't.

The "prior year" was 1992, according to you, when "Don't Tread" was released. When Sterling did his interview, "Don't Tread" had mostly played itself out as "only " a gold album with no where near the success of the debut. So, he was back looking for work again...going to Shaw/Blades and eventually back to Styx.

And please stop bringing up Journey and Steve Perry it’s meaningless in this discussion.

You have no control over me and I can do whatever I want.

Dennis founded the band and never replaced band members like Steve

He "replaced" JC with Tommy and Tommy with Glen. He didn't fire anybody, but he replaced members.

and his loyalty to the Panozzo’s when JY and Tommy wanted them replaced is the opposite.[/b]

But, they were both ego driven controlling assholes during their prime.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I don’t think (well at least you got that part right) that Tommy would ever hold up Styx for his own solo work”. LOL. He quit Styx when they were one of the biggest bands in America for a solo career. “Girls With Guns”?

Correct. He didn't say, "I got this Girls With Guns thing going on, I can only do half a tour." Or, "I have to shoot a video for Girls With Guns so I can't commit to Styx." He quit the band and started something new.

Does anyone know why this person never deals with facts? I know, because he doesn’t have any. What if, what if! We know what Tommy actually did.

“Tommy fans hated seeing Glen sing his songs” whose fault is that? Tommy’s. For Six years Dennis resisted JY and the Panozzo’s plea’s to replace him. When Tommy joined DY it was clear everything was always all about Tommy. Styx never broke up Tommy quit. Selfishness hiding behind that sweet country boy smile.[/b]

Now you are just twisting things. It was TOMMY who started the reunion talk that led to the EotC reunion but Dennis kept delaying because of making videos, or whatever. He asked about it three times.

Tommy was out of record deals (which everyone knows) and then out of the blue he wants his job back from the band he destroyed.


The last time he told Dennis that he had the thing with Ted Nugent and Jack Blades and Dennis TOLD HIM TO DO IT.

READ the article again, Dennis said do the demos, not join a band.

By the time Dennis was ready for Styx, Tommy was committed to DY but since the were all talking again Dennis did not want to waste the moment so he moved forward without Tommy. That is what DENNIS SAID in his first interview with Andrew.

That’s right, the devil made him do it. This after he sold his rights to the name back. Why did he do that? Crickets anyone? Tommy can never be at fault.


But, that is beside the point. It's NOBODY"s "fault" that fans did not like hearing/seeing Glen singing Tommy's songs. It's just the way it was. The point is, there was "vitriol" LONG before the BTM. The BTM is not some magical dividing line like you are making it out to be.

It was when the public campaign began to discredit Dennis and his music. That is a FACT. Listen to Tommy in 1997 sing Dennis’ praises on the DVD.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

STOP. Read the interview again slowly and let it sink in. That’s Tommy in his own words telling the truth. Then try to shed all your beliefs about Dennis based on lies that you bought into told by Tommy and JY on BTM to hide their real motive for replacing him. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

You didn't even read what you are replying to. Clear back in 1986

1986? What fans, were you on the phone with them all? If so, you must have had an expensive phone bill.

there were fans expressing that Dennis took over the band and sound of Styx to a degree that it destroyed the best of what they were.

Dennis took over at Equinox singing lead on every song but one and writing or co-writing every song but one. Then guided them through all of your favorite albums, wake up!

BTM was not a new thing that everybody bought into. That is just complete bullshit. In fact, I would say it "started" when Cornerstone was released,

Triple platinum, even though Tommy out of jealousy kept A&M from releasing a hit single.

and intensified when KWH was released and broke up the band.

No mention of Paradise Theater, because it destroys your bogus premise.

You are bath water drinker number one even 20 years later. It’s impossible for some to ever admit they’re wrong about anything. When has Dennis ever attacked them personally or their music.

That can not possibly be true when I have believed and expressed these things for over 30yrs.

Everyone on this site knows you drank the bathwater because you still don’t address the lies they told!

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Yes, he made fun of "Babe", which I mentioned in a previous post. And, when Dennis whined about it, he apologized and promised that he would never do it again...and he didn't.

Dennis never whined nor mentioned it in public and after a chance meeting he asked Tommy to stop. Why would Tommy even do something so childish and demeaning? Go ahead, defend it.

The "prior year" was 1992, according to you, when "Don't Tread" was released. When Sterling did his interview, "Don't Tread" had mostly played itself out as "only " a gold album with no where near the success of the debut. So, he was back looking for work again...going to Shaw/Blades and eventually back to Styx.

Are you saying Tommy was lying in his Sterling interview? Styx the choice of last resort, the band he is now in control of. Tommy has made JY go from number three to number five behind Will, Todd and Lawrence. JY does what he’s told and is the public voice to discredit Dennis so Tommy can keep his hands clean.

And please stop bringing up Journey and Steve Perry it’s meaningless in this discussion.

You have no control over me and I can do whatever I want.

LOL, thank goodness you're not bringing up anything with the Little River Band!!!

Dennis founded the band and never replaced band members like Steve

He "replaced" JC with Tommy and Tommy with Glen. He didn't fire anybody, but he replaced members.

Is there a point to this statement?

and his loyalty to the Panozzo’s when JY and Tommy wanted them replaced is the opposite.[/b]

But, they were both ego driven controlling assholes during their prime.

Both? Who? Get off your controlling nonsense. Nobody controlled anyone in Styx. What, were they children?

[Monker]

Please at least attempt to quote properly...it's kinda annoying to reply to it when it's not quoted properly.

You didn't even read what you are replying to. Clear back in 1986

1986? What fans, were you on the phone with them all? If so, you must have had an expensive phone bill.

Like I said, you don't even read what you are replying to. No, not on the phone, I was in a car with a friend of mine listening to Journey's ROR. He took out the cassette and handed it to me and said, "That's too bad. Steve Perry did to Journey what Dennis DeYoung did to Styx."

there were fans expressing that Dennis took over the band and sound of Styx to a degree that it destroyed the best of what they were.

Dennis took over at Equinox singing lead on every song but one and writing or co-writing every song but one. Then guided them through all of your favorite albums, wake up!

[/quote]

He didn't do it by himself prior to Kilroy. And, the above is the issue. You, and he, has this fantasy that HE is responsible for every positive thing about Styx, and the negatives are somebody else's issue. That's not realistic, it's not the way that bands or even people are. If he is this dominating leader that YOU and HE says he is than he is responsible for ALL of it, including the negatives because the first rule of leadership is EVERYTHING is your fault. HE is at fault for allowing things to get out of control between Tommy and the label both on Cornerstone with "First Time", and with KWH and "Cold War" and with finishing recording of BNW. HE failed to lead in those instances. If you are still going to argue that it is all Tommy's fault, then Dennis is not the leader you are arguing above that he is and Styx was much more of a "free for all" then you will ever admit.

BTM was not a new thing that everybody bought into. That is just complete bullshit. In fact, I would say it "started" when Cornerstone was released,

Triple platinum, even though Tommy out of jealousy kept A&M from releasing a hit single.

Again with the revisionist history and fiction. You do not know if "First Time" would be a hit. I doubt very much that it would have. It is Dennis' arrogance and ego that professes that he is right and have two sugary, syrupy, sticky sweet ballads for singles would be a good thing.

And, I also agree with Tommy that it does nothing for them being a "rock band" by releasing two Barry Manilow songs. That's where the frustration began.

My point about Cornerstone is that is when FANS started questioning and arguing among themselves. "Babe" did that. That was very slightly before my time, but I would guess that because of things said here.

and intensified when KWH was released and broke up the band.

No mention of Paradise Theater, because it destroys your bogus premise.

Didn't JY speak enough about it in the BTM? That after they fired and rehired Dennis that he went full on control, was worse than ever?

Everyone on this site knows you drank the bathwater because you still don’t address the lies they told![/b]

[/quote]

I really don't care. I have always said Dennis was FIRED. I have always said that Styx should have handled it the way Journey did with Perry and at least tried to legally negotiate his exit before firing him. I never bought into these things you say are "lies".

You are the one denying reality and substituting your own and basing it on what Dennis has recently said. It's simply not true that all this 'vitriol' started with the BTM. It's absolutely not true that is only based on KWH and Babe, but intead the entire circumstances that surround those things and accumulating through the BNW experience, where JY/Tommy had had enough. You are buying into the lies and exaggerations that Dennis is CURRENTLY telling.

[Monker]

Yes, he made fun of "Babe", which I mentioned in a previous post. And, when Dennis whined about it, he apologized and promised that he would never do it again...and he didn't.

Dennis never whined nor mentioned it in public and after a chance meeting he asked Tommy to stop. Why would Tommy even do something so childish and demeaning? Go ahead, defend it.

I didn't say it was a public whine, LOL. He whined about it. Tommy wrote about it in his BLOG years ago. "This is a song written for my wife. Now you are making fun of it. That hurts me deeply." Or, whatever the exact words were. You KNOW it wasn't a simple "he asked Tommy to stop."

He did it because it was funny. He made fun of a Styx ballad and Jack made fun of a Night Ranger ballad.

had mostly played itself out as "only " a gold album with no where near the success of the debut. So, he was back looking for work again...going to Shaw/Blades and eventually back to Styx.

Are you saying Tommy was lying in his Sterling interview? Styx the choice of last resort, the band he is now in control of. Tommy has made JY go from number three to number five behind Will, Todd and Lawrence. JY does what he’s told and is the public voice to discredit Dennis so Tommy can keep his hands clean.

I am saying that Tommy isn't stupid enough to be critical of Dennis the Styx King and expect to ever be part of the band again.

I don't care what the pecking order of the band is. I doubt you know any better than any body else in this forum anyway.

And please stop bringing up Journey and Steve Perry it’s meaningless in this discussion.

You have no control over me and I can do whatever I want.

LOL, thank goodness you're not bringing up anything with the Little River Band!!!

The comparisons to LRB are not the same. The three who were most in control of LRB in their prime (Glen Shorrock, Grahaem Goble, Beeb Birtles) are not the one who have dominated and control the band since Glen Shorrock left.

If there was a comparison, I'd make that too.

Dennis founded the band and never replaced band members like Steve

He "replaced" JC with Tommy and Tommy with Glen. He didn't fire anybody, but he replaced members.

Is there a point to this statement?

Yes: you are wrong.

[Jodes]

21 years and the names may change.. but still tons of whitie produced bullshit from both sides.

Sigh.

Can't we be just be happy for both camps? JFC.

I hold no ill will to Froy (although he pissed me off by betraying my trust) etc.. I've moved past that.. can't the rest of us?

Okay all but one.. the fucker that mocked my mother's alzeimer's.. you sir.. need to be dropped, curb stomped and have the shit kicked out of you and pissed on.. I will never forger that..

Carry on..

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Yes, he made fun of "Babe", which I mentioned in a previous post. And, when Dennis whined about it, he apologized and promised that he would never do it again...and he didn't.

Dennis never whined nor mentioned it in public and after a chance meeting he asked Tommy to stop. Why would Tommy even do something so childish and demeaning? Go ahead, defend it.

I didn't say it was a public whine, LOL. He whined about it. Tommy wrote about it in his BLOG years ago. "This is a song written for my wife. Now you are making fun of it. That hurts me deeply." Or, whatever the exact words were. You KNOW it wasn't a simple "he asked Tommy to stop."

He did it because it was funny. He made fun of a Styx ballad and Jack made fun of a Night Ranger ballad.

had mostly played itself out as "only " a gold album with no where near the success of the debut. So, he was back looking for work again...going to Shaw/Blades and eventually back to Styx.

Are you saying Tommy was lying in his Sterling interview? Styx the choice of last resort, the band he is now in control of. Tommy has made JY go from number three to number five behind Will, Todd and Lawrence. JY does what he’s told and is the public voice to discredit Dennis so Tommy can keep his hands clean.

I am saying that Tommy isn't stupid enough to be critical of Dennis the Styx King and expect to ever be part of the band again.

I don't care what the pecking order of the band is. I doubt you know any better than any body else in this forum anyway.

And please stop bringing up Journey and Steve Perry it’s meaningless in this discussion.

You have no control over me and I can do whatever I want.

LOL, thank goodness you're not bringing up anything with the Little River Band!!!

The comparisons to LRB are not the same. The three who were most in control of LRB in their prime (Glen Shorrock, Grahaem Goble, Beeb Birtles) are not the one who have dominated and control the band since Glen Shorrock left.

If there was a comparison, I'd make that too.

Dennis founded the band and never replaced band members like Steve

He "replaced" JC with Tommy and Tommy with Glen. He didn't fire anybody, but he replaced members.

Is there a point to this statement?

Yes: you are wrong.

The “DUPE of MONKER” has once again spoken. You are el Dupe’.

I have gone back to read some of your posts over the years and not surprisingly found you to be “BATHWATER” Drinker number One. Congratulations oh spreader of falsehoods. Your vision has always been clouded from the goggles you wear there at the tubs bottom.

You have repeatedly criticized Dennis at every opportunity both personally and musically and like your heroes Tom and JY spread lies to everyone on this site to support them. Now we find that the stories told by Styx were never true but fabrications to turn our fan base against him and to follow them into “Styx” 2.0. Remember that? They came up with that long before any legal actions took place.

When I first heard about Dennis’ retirement and baton passing, I was sad because I loved the band and didn’t want it to change. However, I was happy to support whoever the band chose as his replacement because Styx music had been so important in my life. Then much later I heard that Dennis had finally spoken out and told a very different story. Even as his story became evident a vocal and strident group of fans were quick to disbelieve whatever Dennis said and the beginnings of the campaign by Tommy and JY began culminating with the BTM episode.

When the DUPE OF MONKER reads the truth in Tommy’s own words (Whitaker interview) and his videos (1997 RTP) he dreams up explanations and excuses in the Troll dreamland beneath his bridge. NOTHING will ever defeat the great “DUPE” at least in his closed mind but I hope the rest of us will admit that Dennis was NEVER who they painted him to be. When they claim the band were never friendly and there was always constant and friction we are confronted with so much historical video and photos that completely defy that claim. Styx always seemed physically warm to each other because they were. TS and JY needed to claim otherwise to validate why they chose to replace Dennis. It was Money. Always Money.

For years I have been on this site and others defending Dennis always tempering my anger so as not to turn into a hateful participant. With the eye opening response to Dennis and his recent performances both in song, video and interview demeanor we see the true man that millions have believed has always belonged in Styx.
Go away DUPE OF MONKER.

Let’s us have our last reunion……….“The Suite of Madame Blue”

[Monker]

To believe what you do, you have to:

Ignore the fact that these opinions about Dennis have been in the fan base for 35yrs or more.
Ignore the fact that "vitriol" predates the BTM by almost 10yrs and has been expressed online since the early 90's, predating internet forums like this one.
Ignore the fact that a reunion tour would be a guaranteed source of income and spring Styx forward for whatever they decide to do after that tour.
Ignore the fact of how the Kilroy tour ended and Tommy quitting the band.
Dennis has expressed desire for "one last reunion" for years...it was not inspired by YouTube.

This did NOT begin with the BTM.
This did NOT begin solely because of money.
"Vitriol" has been in the fan base for decades.
Dennis is no more of a saint than JY or Tommy and using fan comments to get a reunion confirms that JY and Tommy are telling the truth when they say Dennis is controlling.
Considering the way the KWH tour ended, it is absolutely crazy to believe that the band was OK with Dennis.

The “DUPE of MONKER” has once again spoken. You are el Dupe’.

I have gone back to read some of your posts over the years and not surprisingly found you to be “BATHWATER” Drinker number One. Congratulations oh spreader of falsehoods. Your vision has always been clouded from the goggles you wear there at the tubs bottom.

You have repeatedly criticized Dennis at every opportunity both personally and musically and like your heroes Tom and JY spread lies to everyone on this site to support them. Now we find that the stories told by Styx were never true but fabrications to turn our fan base against him and to follow them into “Styx” 2.0. Remember that? They came up with that long before any legal actions took place.

When I first heard about Dennis’ retirement and baton passing, I was sad because I loved the band and didn’t want it to change. However, I was happy to support whoever the band chose as his replacement because Styx music had been so important in my life. Then much later I heard that Dennis had finally spoken out and told a very different story. Even as his story became evident a vocal and strident group of fans were quick to disbelieve whatever Dennis said and the beginnings of the campaign by Tommy and JY began culminating with the BTM episode.

When the DUPE OF MONKER reads the truth in Tommy’s own words (Whitaker interview) and his videos (1997 RTP) he dreams up explanations and excuses in the Troll dreamland beneath his bridge. NOTHING will ever defeat the great “DUPE” at least in his closed mind but I hope the rest of us will admit that Dennis was NEVER who they painted him to be. When they claim the band were never friendly and there was always constant and friction we are confronted with so much historical video and photos that completely defy that claim. Styx always seemed physically warm to each other because they were. TS and JY needed to claim otherwise to validate why they chose to replace Dennis. It was Money. Always Money.

For years I have been on this site and others defending Dennis always tempering my anger so as not to turn into a hateful participant. With the eye opening response to Dennis and his recent performances both in song, video and interview demeanor we see the true man that millions have believed has always belonged in Styx.
Go away DUPE OF MONKER.

Let’s us have our last reunion……….“The Suite of Madame Blue”

[SuiteMadameBlue]

To believe what you do, you have to:

What’s that sound..is it the The Dupe of Monker or wind blowing through an empty vessel. Both.
Asked and answered with facts in evidence through the written word and video tape You have no defense except your false opinions and your nonsensical run on posts.


Ignore the fact that these opinions about Dennis have been in the fan base for 35yrs or more.
Ignore the fact that "vitriol" predates the BTM by almost 10yrs and has been expressed online since the early 90's, predating internet forums like this one.

I see you’ve joined the Word of the Month Club “VITRIOL”.
The 1996 and 97 Tours were incredibly successful and I attended a couple of those shows and saw an overjoyed fan base enthralled with their favorite band once again. You saw vitriol in a fan base where everyone else saw joy. Go back under the bridge you trouble making dupe...So sorry el Dupe’.

Ignore the fact that a reunion tour would be a guaranteed source of income and spring Styx forward for whatever they decide to do after that tour.

The reason they don’t dare let Dennis back on the stage is because the minute he walks out and sings, his presence and voice will erase 21 years of lies finally giving the fans what they always wanted. All of them together. Except you and your friend of course sitting in your car in 1986. discussing Steve Perry. The name Styx will never recover when he leaves and they know it. They are scared.

Ignore the fact of how the Kilroy tour ended and Tommy quitting the band.
Dennis has expressed desire for "one last reunion" for years...it was not inspired by YouTube.

This did NOT begin with the BTM.
This did NOT begin solely because of money.
"Vitriol" has been in the fan base for decades.
Dennis is no more of a saint than JY or Tommy and using fan comments to get a reunion confirms that JY and Tommy are telling the truth when they say Dennis is controlling.
Considering the way the KWH tour ended, it is absolutely crazy to believe that the band was OK with Dennis.

The Kilroy tour ended when an out of control member (who had nearly cut his hand so severely they he might never play again) quit to go after a solo career. He cost them hundreds of thousand of dollars because of cancellations on that tour. Not to mention the millions he would cost JY, John and Chuck by leaving. They were essentially without work because of his selfishness. JY never has gotten a record deal from any record company. They wanted Tommy REPLACED especially JY, not Dennis.

Please go away and leave Styx fans alone.
Your bridge is in need of repair.

The “DUPE of MONKER” has once again spoken. You are el Dupe’.

I have gone back to read some of your posts over the years and not surprisingly found you to be “BATHWATER” Drinker number One. Congratulations oh spreader of falsehoods. Your vision has always been clouded from the goggles you wear there at the tubs bottom.

You have repeatedly criticized Dennis at every opportunity both personally and musically and like your heroes Tom and JY spread lies to everyone on this site to support them. Now we find that the stories told by Styx were never true but fabrications to turn our fan base against him and to follow them into “Styx” 2.0. Remember that? They came up with that long before any legal actions took place.

When I first heard about Dennis’ retirement and baton passing, I was sad because I loved the band and didn’t want it to change. However, I was happy to support whoever the band chose as his replacement because Styx music had been so important in my life. Then much later I heard that Dennis had finally spoken out and told a very different story. Even as his story became evident a vocal and strident group of fans were quick to disbelieve whatever Dennis said and the beginnings of the campaign by Tommy and JY began culminating with the BTM episode.

When the DUPE OF MONKER reads the truth in Tommy’s own words (Whitaker interview) and his videos (1997 RTP) he dreams up explanations and excuses in the Troll dreamland beneath his bridge. NOTHING will ever defeat the great “DUPE” at least in his closed mind but I hope the rest of us will admit that Dennis was NEVER who they painted him to be. When they claim the band were never friendly and there was always constant and friction we are confronted with so much historical video and photos that completely defy that claim. Styx always seemed physically warm to each other because they were. TS and JY needed to claim otherwise to validate why they chose to replace Dennis. It was Money. Always Money.

For years I have been on this site and others defending Dennis always tempering my anger so as not to turn into a hateful participant. With the eye opening response to Dennis and his recent performances both in song, video and interview demeanor we see the true man that millions have believed has always belonged in Styx.
Go away DUPE OF MONKER.

Let’s us have our last reunion……….“The Suite of Madame Blue”

[Monker]

You are simply in total denial about Styx' own history and frustrations with Dennis. All you are doing is parroting Dennis and his propaganda. Saying everything was roses in Styx history is like a person trying to convince an ex to get back together for one more fling, ignoring an entire history of dysfunction and pretending your past together is a fantasy. If that ex has any brains they are not going to do it.

[Cassie May]

My God......froy and topher have come back in the form of Suite Madame Blue.

I refuse to add anything to the stupidity of this thread except to say:

I left this board for over a year due to severe health issues. I come back and find it's the same old shit. Get over it! Grow up! Live your life and make the best of it!

The band will never reunite. DDY can come out with a new interview every year and whine about it all he wants, but TS and JY have reformed the band as they like it, and it works for them. Fans get music and concerts from both acts, so there are no losers here. Just enjoy the music. When all is said and done, the music left behind is all that matters. Enjoy it. Enjoy your life! Isn't there enough bullshit and misery in the world without continuing the same senseless, stupid arguing that's been going on over 20 years? Isn't obvious that the fans of each side are never going to change the minds of the other side?

Peace out.

[ztyxlynne]

1st off I cant believe Rolling Stone is giving Styx any ink to begin with. From what I remember they never really had anything good to say about them.

I would be happy if we heard that DDY, Tommy and esp Chuck at least talked to one another. I dont care if they did a full tour. I would flip if DDY re recored a song on Vol 2 that featured Chucks bass and Tommys voice. Or even a tour like Foreigner did with past members at certain dates.

Also, how was Tommy that broke after the huge success of Damn Yankees that he needed Styx to tour again in 97?