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[froy]

Its not an issue of has anyone done a cover cd
Its the issue of a band like Styx (if you consider todays band Styx) doing a cover 30 years into there so called career after 4 platinum cds.

Why do you do this? Can't you just admit you are wrong? How many examples of this do you need? It's happened frequently...

I have yet to see a viable example that comes close to the Styx situation
Has Journey done a cover cd? How about Kansas?
I heard just yesterday Metalicca 's cover of turn the page and my god was it awefull, Im sure Seger does not like what they did to his great song
There is a reason why cover cds are realesed and in Styx's case its because they have tried everything to get noticed and nothing has worked
There last cd sold nothing now there going to try a cover cd which is going to sell nothing as well,
Im also sure they know it irks Dennis so thats
another reason there doing it.

I'll even throw out another...Chicago did "Night and Day", yet another album by a classic rock band that was all covers, and did OK.

Great it did ok
Was that the Big Band CD?
I think they did a copy of Glen Miller In The Mood like we really needed a cover of that great standard
It was crap nice try
If Cetera was in the band they would have never done it.

You never ansered my question Monk why?
What if Styx does cover after cover volume 1 2 3 4 5 year after year is it still going to be ok . I know this cover is not ok with you but yet you still argue with me about it.

[kansas666]

This thread stopped being fun when Froy stopped making any sense.

[froy]

This thread stopped being fun when Froy stopped making any sense.

Learn to stop at a twelve pack next time you may figure it out .

[Adam]

What we see here is a display of tenacity, perserverence and incoherent adamant ignorance. We are debating with the unaccountable. Facts don't matter, examples given don't, nor do challenges met.

[Monker]

I have yet to see a viable example that comes close to the Styx situation

That is because you refuse to accept you are wrong.

Has Journey done a cover cd? How about Kansas?

Journey did an entire KBFH concert in 1978 that was full of R&B covers. I think many wish they would have released it on CD. I do.

There is a reason why cover cds are realesed and in Styx's case its because they have tried everything to get noticed and nothing has worked

Or, the record label WANTS them to release a cover CD before any studio CD. Sorry, that explanation makes much more sense then yours.

There last cd sold nothing now there going to try a cover cd which is going to sell nothing as well,

Yeah, so? The label believes differently. What makes you more of an expert then Universal?

Im also sure they know it irks Dennis so thats
another reason there doing it.

If all they want to do is 'irk' Dennis, Tommy and JY would make fun of "Babe" on stage. Tommy already knows how Dennis feels about that.

Great it did ok
Was that the Big Band CD?
I think they did a copy of Glen Miller In The Mood like we really needed a cover of that great standard
It was crap nice try
If Cetera was in the band they would have never done it.

You can't get any closer to the Styx situation then "Night and Day". from Chicago. The very fact that you said it "did OK" and then say it's "crap" seems to show that you know it too. It was a great album, and a good show on tour too. "In the Mood" was great in concert.

You never ansered my question Monk why?

Because it didn't look like it was addressed to me.

What if Styx does cover after cover volume 1 2 3 4 5 year after year is it still going to be ok . I know this cover is not ok with you but yet you still argue with me about it.

It's a silly question...It's not going to happen. But, if it does, why would anything change for me? I doubt I would buy the albums, but I would still see them if they came to town.

I argue with your silly statement that classic rock bands do not release cover albums. I argue with your opinion that it is a fact that they have nothing else to say. I argue with your doomsday opinion that this is the beginning of the end...which you say after every move Styx makes. The sky is NOT falling.

[froy]

I have yet to see a viable example that comes close to the Styx situation

That is because you refuse to accept you are wrong.

Its funny you don't agree with Styx doing a cover cd but yet you argue with me about it saying its ok , Talking out of both sides of your mug Monker ?

Has Journey done a cover cd? How about Kansas?

Journey did an entire KBFH concert in 1978 that was full of R&B covers. I think many wish they would have released it on CD. I do.

No they did not do an entire CD of RB covers Get your facts straight.
Look at the set list and this was Pre Perry popularity.
Nice try again.

There is a reason why cover cds are realesed and in Styx's case its because they have tried everything to get noticed and nothing has worked

Or, the record label WANTS them to release a cover CD before any studio CD. Sorry, that explanation makes much more sense then yours.

If the lable wanted them to do a cd of Barneys greatest hits do they run an say ok the lable wants it, This proves STYX has no vision there a bunch of followers just like you Monk your perfect for each other.
They follow the lable and you follow the band .,

You can't get any closer to the Styx situation then "Night and Day". from Chicago. The very fact that you said it "did OK" and then say it's "crap" seems to show that you know it too. It was a great album, and a good show on tour too. "In the Mood" was great in concert.

You said it did ok not me and are we into putting out cds for them to just do ok?
Carrot did terrible why would this do any better ?
Its a stupid idea from a failing out of touch band,
And in The Mood Was Great in Concert ?
I hear it at every wedding I do and its sound great there as well.
The fact is when you think of Chicago you don't think of In The Mood
When you think of STYX you don't think of I Am The Walrus and you certainly do not think of Lawerence Gowan and Rickie Phillips

What if Styx does cover after cover volume 1 2 3 4 5 year after year is it still going to be ok . I know this cover is not ok with you but yet you still argue with me about it.

It's a silly question...It's not going to happen. But, if it does, why would anything change for me? I doubt I would buy the albums, but I would still see them if they came to town.

Its not gonna happen by your own words it could happen
I guess we agree the Rod Stewart 3rd go around is a silly idea.
Current Styx could do 5 volumes even Shaw and Blades are doing it.

I argue with your silly statement that classic rock bands do not release cover albums.

And you agree that Styx doing one is a bad idea yet you agrue with me about it
Pretty stupid wouldn't ya say?

[froy]

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[Monker]

Its funny you don't agree with Styx doing a cover cd but yet you argue with me about it saying its ok

It may be "OK" for other fans, just not me. Unlike you, I don't impose my opinion on everybody saying that I think is best. At least not in this case.

Journey did an entire KBFH concert in 1978 that was full of R&B covers. I think many wish they would have released it on CD. I do.

No they did not do an entire CD of RB covers Get your facts straight.
Look at the set list and this was Pre Perry popularity.
Nice try again.

I did not say they did an entire CD of covers. You get YOUR facts straight. The Superjam has maybe four Journey songs and probably eight R&B covers. Also, it was NOT 'pre Perry'. It was done after Infinity and just prior to Evolution = JOURNEY'S SECOND ALBUM with Steve Perry. Anybody who has the box set and has read what it says about "Good Times" knows that.

If the lable wanted them to do a cd of Barneys greatest hits do they run an say ok the lable wants it, This proves STYX has no vision there a bunch of followers just like you Monk your perfect for each other.
They follow the lable and you follow the band .,

No, it proves that you do not have the ability to think logicaly. A label wouldn't suggest that...it makes absolutely no sense. If the label suggested something so idiotic, they wouldn't stay on the label. Please use a bit of common sense...if you can.

You said it did ok not me

You said, "Great, it did OK".

and are we into putting out cds for them to just do ok?

I really don't care how a CD sells or charts. Doing OK doesn't mean the music is OK.

Carrot did terrible why would this do any better ?

I would rather listen to Cyclorama then Kilroy, Edge, or BNW. To me, that is what matters most.

Its a stupid idea from a failing out of touch band,

Yeah, and going about to PBS stations promoting a play called Hunchback, years after it was written, is "in touch"?

And in The Mood Was Great in Concert ?
I hear it at every wedding I do and its sound great there as well.

Well, good for you. I have never heard it at a wedding.

The fact is when you think of Chicago you don't think of In The Mood

How do you know what I think? I think of it because I saw it. I also think of "Moonlight Serenade" and "Dream a Little Dream".

When you think of STYX you don't think of I Am The Walrus and you certainly do not think of Lawerence Gowan and Rickie Phillips

I absolutely believe there are now people who think of Gowan when they think of Styx. Just as there are people who think of Augeri when they think of Journey. They are not in the majority, by a long ways, but they do exist. You should not make such absolute judgements, because there are exceptions to your lame rule.

Its not gonna happen by your own words it could happen

By MY words? I never said it could happen. I was just taking a step into your fictional reality for a moment.

I guess we agree the Rod Stewart 3rd go around is a silly idea.

I don't know...Rod Stewart recording anything is a silly idea. About as silly as Steve Perry recording anything.

Current Styx could do 5 volumes even Shaw and Blades are doing it.

Shaw/Blades were going at it first...and I WILL buy that CD.

And you agree that Styx doing one is a bad idea yet you agrue with me about it
Pretty stupid wouldn't ya say?

I am not arguing with you that it is a bad idea. I am arguing with you about WHY it is a bad idea. I already explained that IMO it is a 'bad idea' because I am a selfish bastard who wants new music. Are you going to argue with that?

[froy]

I did not say they did an entire CD of covers. You get YOUR facts straight. The Superjam has maybe four Journey songs and probably eight R&B covers.

Um Did you forget the Tower of Power did about 6 of those covers ?
Journey did Let The Good Times Roll and Roadrunner big deal
2 covers nobody even knew were covers.
And when I said Pre Perry I meant Pre perry sucsess he was not a household name just yet

If the lable wanted them to do a cd of Barneys greatest hits do they run an say ok the lable wants it, This proves STYX has no vision there a bunch of followers just like you Monk your perfect for each other.
They follow the lable and you follow the band .,

No, it proves that you do not have the ability to think logicaly. A label wouldn't suggest that...it makes absolutely no sense. If the label suggested something so idiotic, they wouldn't stay on the label. Please use a bit of common sense...if you can.

Its funny you know what a lable is going to do.
Shall we see how many bands or singers have done lullabye cds ?
Kenny Loggins I think Heart and a few others
You see where this can lead?

You said it did ok not me

You said, "Great, it did OK".

Quoting you pal ..

Carrot did terrible why would this do any better ?

I would rather listen to Cyclorama then Kilroy, Edge, or BNW. To me, that is what matters most.

Its not a STYX cd so I won't listen only the name say's Styx not the members of the band.

Its a stupid idea from a failing out of touch band,

Yeah, and going about to PBS stations promoting a play called Hunchback, years after it was written, is "in touch"?

The music on Hunchback is increadable better than anything he has done
in his solo carreer
Its better than Shaw promoting Blue Collar Man version 9 and Styx lineup number 4 without Dennis.
And I think he was promoting the double live cds get your facts straight again

The fact is when you think of Chicago you don't think of In The Mood

How do you know what I think? I think of it because I saw it. I also think of "Moonlight Serenade" and "Dream a Little Dream".

Who cares what you think
Ask anyone on the street what song they think of when they think of the band Chicago and I will bet you are the only goof who say's In The Mood.

When you think of STYX you don't think of I Am The Walrus and you certainly do not think of Lawerence Gowan and Rickie Phillips

I absolutely believe there are now people who think of Gowan when they think of Styx.

Not in your worst nightmere .

Just as there are people who think of Augeri when they think of Journey.

no doubt people think of Augeri thats because he's the lead singer
Gowan is a fill in keyboard player Perry quit Dennis was thrown out.
Big difference,

I am not arguing with you that it is a bad idea. I am arguing with you about WHY it is a bad idea. I already explained that IMO it is a 'bad idea' because I am a selfish bastard who wants new music. Are you going to argue with that?

[/quote]

Nope I agree new music or nothing Is my point ,

[styxfanNH]

Froy,
Do you consider BNW a Styx album?

[froy]

Froy,
Do you consider BNW a Styx album?

Nope

[DarrenUK]

BNW and Return To Paradise was not a Styx album as John Panozzo(RIP) was not on them hence was not classic Styx.
Edge Of The Century was not a Styx album as Tommy was not on it hence not classic Styx
Even if Dennis was to return to Styx and they made a new CD it would not be a Styx album as John Panozzo (RIP) would not be on it so it would not be classic Styx. Froy your arguament has no meaning YOU ARE IN ERROR.......NO DEVIANCE KILFROY.......

[kansas666]

How do you know what I think?

Who cares what you think

Evidently you do.

[gr8dane]

How do you know what I think?

Who cares what you think

Evidently you do.

As one groupie to another " Nicely spotted 666".
Is that what we call a Touche'

[Monker]

Um Did you forget the Tower of Power did about 6 of those covers ?
Journey did Let The Good Times Roll and Roadrunner big deal

This is simple ignorance. Journey performed on each and every one of those songs...along with Tower of Power, Tommy Johnston, and Jo Baker.

2 covers nobody even knew were covers.

You actually think that most people believe "Good Times" and "Roadrunner" are JOURNEY songs?

Its not a STYX cd so I won't listen only the name say's Styx not the members of the band.

The lawsuit that Dennis settled also says that its Styx.

The music on Hunchback is increadable better than anything he has done in his solo carreer

"Incredible?" I don't think so. Good, yeah. Better then his other solo stuff...maybe. But, IMO, that's not saying much. The songs that he did from Hunchback are not "incredible", IMO.

Its better than Shaw promoting Blue Collar Man version 9 and Styx lineup number 4 without Dennis.

At least its newly released stuff...not stuff that he has been promoting for about ten years.

And I think he was promoting the double live cds get your facts straight again

Sure, he was promoting that. And, in his stop in Des Moines, he specificaly said that he wanted to get Hunchback produced for PBS and if enough people called in that maybe it would happen. I even have it on tape.

Who cares what you think

Anybody who asks me something like, "When YOU think of..." cares what I think.

Ask anyone on the street what song they think of when they think of the band Chicago and I will bet you are the only goof who say's In The Mood.

That may be true, if you limit it to ONE SONG. But, that's completely different then what you originaly said. If you ask a bunch of people "What do you think of when you think of the band Chicago?" I'm sure you find a few people who mention "Night and Day".

I absolutely believe there are now people who think of Gowan when they think of Styx.


Not in your worst nightmere .

Oh, no, no. In YOUR worst nightmare. It's not so signficant in my life that thoughts of Gowan in Styx enter my dreams.

no doubt people think of Augeri thats because he's the lead singer
Gowan is a fill in keyboard player Perry quit Dennis was thrown out.
Big difference,

You are completely wrong. Augeri is in Journey because Steve Perry allowed himself to be replaced. It's been written by several people that Perry never left Journey and that he can return whenever he wants. Not too long ago, Augeri basicaly confirmed it...that Perry could come back whenever he wants and that Augeri would graciously step aside.

So, Journey never really got rid of their problem. Seems to me that the difference here is that Styx DID get rid of their problem.

Nope I agree new music or nothing Is my point ,

You don't want new music either. So, you really want "nothing" or nothing. So, your prefered choice is that Styx do nothing at all.

[froy]

Um Did you forget the Tower of Power did about 6 of those covers ?
Journey did Let The Good Times Roll and Roadrunner big deal

This is simple ignorance. Journey performed on each and every one of those songs...along with Tower of Power, Tommy Johnston, and Jo Baker.

Yea simple ignorance by you who said Journey did 8 covers on a KBFH show it is simply not true It was more of a few bands mixed together,

2 covers nobody even knew were covers.

You actually think that most people believe "Good Times" and "Roadrunner" are JOURNEY songs?

Back then who knew JRNY with Perry was a brand new band it could have been percieved as new music they just wrote,



"Incredible?" I don't think so. Good, yeah. Better then his other solo stuff...maybe. But, IMO, that's not saying much. The songs that he did from Hunchback are not "incredible", IMO.

Esmerelda is Increadable With Everyheart Beat increadable
Paradise Beautiful While There's Still Time Beautiful
Only Love Will Remain beautifull Who will Love this child beautifull
Ave Maria beautifull. Its his best solo work he has ever done.
Comming from a current Styx fan your opinion is shallow.



At least its newly released stuff...not stuff that he has been promoting for about ten years.[/quote]

Newly released stuff thats not even there's.
Wow how original.

And I think he was promoting the double live cds get your facts straight again

Sure, he was promoting that. And, in his stop in Des Moines, he specificaly said that he wanted to get Hunchback produced for PBS and if enough people called in that maybe it would happen. I even have it on tape.

I see so he said he had a dream of getting Hunchback on PBS so thats promoting it ? Not the same thing The double live cd was shown and sold with subs not Hunchback.

Ask anyone on the street what song they think of when they think of the band Chicago and I will bet you are the only goof who say's In The Mood.

That may be true,

Enough said.

no doubt people think of Augeri thats because he's the lead singer
Gowan is a fill in keyboard player Perry quit Dennis was thrown out.
Big difference,

You are completely wrong. Augeri is in Journey because Steve Perry allowed himself to be replaced.

Yea he quit like I said.

You don't want new music either. So, you really want "nothing" or nothing. So, your prefered choice is that Styx do nothing at all.

Yep nothing right now is better than a Locomotive Breath cover
They have ruined the memories fans have of Styx
They have ruined the memory of John Lennon singing Walrus
Now there going to ruin Who Fans and Tull fans memories of there favorite classics . I still bet they do Freebird

[Monker]

Yea simple ignorance by you who said Journey did 8 covers on a KBFH show it is simply not true It was more of a few bands mixed together,

Wrong. Tower of Power is a horn section, not a band. Tommy Jonston was there, not the Doobie's. Annie Sampson and Jo Baker were there, not Stoneground. JOURNEY was there, not just Steve Perry, or just Neal Schon, or just Gregg Rolie - the entire band was there, and interviewed. I have the reels.

It was JOURNEY doing covers, you just don't want to admit it.

Back then who knew JRNY with Perry was a brand new band it could have been percieved as new music they just wrote,

Give me a break. "Good Times" is not a song that most people would mistake for an original. People KNOW that song. It's like hearing a cover of "Stairway to Heaven" and thinking it's the original.

Esmerelda is Increadable With Everyheart Beat increadable
Paradise Beautiful While There's Still Time Beautiful
Only Love Will Remain beautifull Who will Love this child beautifull
Ave Maria beautifull. Its his best solo work he has ever done.
Comming from a current Styx fan your opinion is shallow.

That's your opinion. They are simply not 'incredible' to me. sure, they are "good." But, I wouldn't assign any loftier word then that.

It has nothing to do with being a 'current Styx fan'...That is simply what I think of the songs that I saw and heard.

Newly released stuff thats not even there's.
Wow how original.

How "original" is it to take a character that has been around for more then a hundred years and write music around that already defined story. Kilroy was more 'original' then Hunchback.

I see so he said he had a dream of getting Hunchback on PBS so thats promoting it ? Not the same thing The double live cd was shown and sold with subs not Hunchback.

That is absolutely NOT what he said. He was saying that if enough people called in and donated during his broadcast that it would show PBS that there was enough interest in him that they may support a Hunchback production. He specificaly said it was a deal that he was trying to work out with PBS...not a 'dream'. He was absolutely promoting it.

Ask anyone on the street what song they think of when they think of the band Chicago and I will bet you are the only goof who say's In The Mood.

That may be true,

Enough said.

No, it's not. You keep changing the meaning of your posts. It's never enough said with you.

You are completely wrong. Augeri is in Journey because Steve Perry allowed himself to be replaced.

Yea he quit like I said.

Wrong. He did not quit Journey, or was fired. He's still a member of Journey...he just doesn't sing. He allows Augeri to sing for him.

Yep nothing right now is better than a Locomotive Breath cover

What YOU want is not what EVERY Styx fan wants.

They have ruined the memories fans have of Styx

That is only true if you ALLOW it to be true. Styx is not ruining your memories - YOU are doing it yourself.

They have ruined the memory of John Lennon singing Walrus
Now there going to ruin Who Fans and Tull fans memories of there favorite classics . I still bet they do Freebird

That is laughable. If a person allows Styx to 'ruin' their memories, then they need to see a psychologist. It means that person has allowed a rock back to take control of their brain. That is scary. oh, well, at least it is not Eric Cartman who controls it...although that may be interesting to see.

[froy]

Yea simple ignorance by you who said Journey did 8 covers on a KBFH show it is simply not true It was more of a few bands mixed together,

Wrong. Tower of Power is a horn section, not a band. Tommy Jonston was there, not the Doobie's. Annie Sampson and Jo Baker were there, not Stoneground. JOURNEY was there, not just Steve Perry, or just Neal Schon, or just Gregg Rolie - the entire band was there, and interviewed. I have the reels.

It was JOURNEY doing covers, you just don't want to admit it.

I have the reels also last I checked JRNY did not have a horn section
Last I checked Annie Sampson was not in JRNY
Tommy Johnson not in JRNY either so it was not JRNY doing Covers
If these people were not part of it you would be right but they were so your wrong again;.

Back then who knew JRNY with Perry was a brand new band it could have been percieved as new music they just wrote,

Give me a break. "Good Times" is not a song that most people would mistake for an original. People KNOW that song. It's like hearing a cover of "Stairway to Heaven" and thinking it's the original.

Right Good Times and Stairway to Heaven are compared the same
Your on crack man .

How "original" is it to take a character that has been around for more then a hundred years and write music around that already defined story. Kilroy was more 'original' then Hunchback.

The issue is how great the music was not how original the idea was.

Yep nothing right now is better than a Locomotive Breath cover

What YOU want is not what EVERY Styx fan wants.

Great Monker knows what everyone wants again'

[froy]

They have ruined the memories fans have of Styx

That is only true if you ALLOW it to be true. Styx is not ruining your memories - YOU are doing it yourself.[/quote]


I am not doing anything to myself other than ignoring anything this current Styx band does.

They have ruined the memory of John Lennon singing Walrus
Now there going to ruin Who Fans and Tull fans memories of there favorite classics . I still bet they do Freebird

That is laughable. If a person allows Styx to 'ruin' their memories, then they need to see a psychologist. It means that person has allowed a rock back to take control of their brain. That is scary. oh, well, at least it is not Eric Cartman who controls it...although that may be interesting to see.

[/quote]


Do you think John Lennon wrote IATW to someday have Gowan try to cash in on it ? I don't think so. And as far as Cartman that is a terrible version one I would never listen to ever.

[Monker]

I am not doing anything to myself other than ignoring anything this current Styx band does.

Then your Styx memories are just fine.

Well, except for the fact that you are NOT ignoring what Styx does. In fact, it seems you take up plenty of time reading about it AND writing about it...as this thread proves. That is FAR from 'ignoring' it.

Do you think John Lennon wrote IATW to someday have Gowan try to cash in on it ? I don't think so. And as far as Cartman that is a terrible version one I would never listen to ever.

No, I think John Lennon wrote it after having an especialy good time taking some mind altering concoction, doing a bit of transcendental meditation, and then riding about in his yellow submarine. He probably did not even consider what it would be like if some band almost four decades later covered it. He probably thought, "Hey, man, look at what kinda crazy shit you can come up with if you live the lifestyle I've chosen! Coo cookachoo to you too! My walrus costume doesn't fit, do you wanna try it on?" Then he probably went about talking to his own "Harvey the Rabbit" and ignored the rest of the world.

[gr8dane]

Froy,
Do you consider BNW a Styx album?

Nope

'Scuse me froy.
May I ask why not?
We got Dennis Tommy James Chuck and Todd.
For obvious reasons no John.

[DarrenUK]

Froy you said you ignore everything this Styx line up does well can you tell me how you dislike Cyclorama as its by the current Styx and if you are true to your word would of refused to listen to it.........If you really want to ignore this line up of Styx dont post about them then your credibility would be enhanced.

[styxfanNH]

Froy,

Do you consider any of the Wooden Nickel Albums, Styx?

Do you consider Equinox, Styx?

Do you consider Edge of the Century, Styx?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I think Froy and Monker are on Holiday break - LOL

I miss the "Froy and Monker" show, I mean posts

[froy]

Froy,
Do you consider BNW a Styx album?

Nope

'Scuse me froy.
May I ask why not?
We got Dennis Tommy James Chuck and Todd.
For obvious reasons no John.

Back in town and ready to rumble
BNW was not produced by Dennis and the band never played together
It was tapes sent back and forth BS
It say's STYX but it sure was not.

[froy]

Do you consider Edge of the Century, Styx?

[/quote]
Nope Shaw was missing

[DarrenUK]

But surely then even if Dennis was to return it would not be Styx as John Panozzo is missing.........

[froy]

But surely then even if Dennis was to return it would not be Styx as John Panozzo is missing.........

In the case of a member passing away Its exceptable.
If Dennis returned and they wrote together like the past is would quickly be STyx again Cycloramit was not Styx too many outside influences no Dennis in the band and producing the cd .

[DarrenUK]

In the case of a member passing away its acceptable.....I dont agree, look at Thin Lizzy touring without Phil Lynott its a joke. Just like I dont think the Queen/Paul Rodgers collaboration should be Queen, Freddie was Queen.
Can you imagine The Rolling Stones without Jagger, ime not a Stones fan but it could not happen.
The Styx situation with Dennis ever coming back in my opinion is a non starter not because of musical differences but I could never see Dennis and JY wanting to be in the same room as each other, too much has happened between them for it to happen. Ide love it to happen more than anything but it wont so ime happy with both Styx and Dennis doing their thing, I agree with you Dennis is a far better singer than Gowan but I dont blame Gowan for taking the job in Styx, I could not imagine him saying naaaa i wont join because of the conflict between JY and Dennis. Gowan is an innocent party in all this just trying to earn a living like Steve Augeri is in Journey. If you watch Journey Behind The Music the situation is so like Styx. Steve Perry wanted the band to wait for him to get over his injury and Schon and Cain did not want to wait forever to go out and tour and to be dictated to by one band member.
As JY said Dennis will be back in Styx when there playing hockey on the river Styx. I dont like it but thats how it is and all our ranting and raving is not going to change that. Now ime off to see Styx 3 times in the UK in June (Something that would never of happened with DDY in the band) he did not know there was other countries besides USA and ime off to see Dennis in Florida in April, so ime doubley happy.

[froy]

In the case of a member passing away its acceptable.....I dont agree, look at Thin Lizzy touring without Phil Lynott its a joke. Just like I dont think the Queen/Paul Rodgers collaboration should be Queen, Freddie was Queen.
Can you imagine The Rolling Stones without Jagger, ime not a Stones fan but it could not happen.

You just happened to pick all lead singers did ya forget about ACDC ?
I agree it depends on the situation by your words Gowan replaceing Dennis is a loser , John Panazzzo I hate to say it killed himself he drank himself to death , Classic Styx should have found another drummer like they did and moved forward .

The Styx situation with Dennis ever coming back in my opinion is a non starter not because of musical differences but I could never see Dennis and JY wanting to be in the same room as each other, too much has happened between them for it to happen.

Thats giving JY too much credit ,
Dennis is a forgiving man
Im sure he would shake hands and move forward
Jy on the other hand as you can see is a bitter man who caresless about Styx fans all he wants is money,
As far as musical differences who really knows /

I agree with you Dennis is a far better singer than Gowan but I dont blame Gowan for taking the job in Styx, I could not imagine him saying naaaa i wont join because of the conflict between JY and Dennis. Gowan is an innocent party in all this just trying to earn a living like Steve Augeri is in Journey.

I totally disagree Augeri has said it many times if Perry wants to come back he would step aside, Gowan has said nothing , He acts as if he formed the band and was in from day one . If the guy was a real Styx fan he should suggest they get Dennis back for the sake of the STYX legacy . He is ruining the band .

If you watch Journey Behind The Music the situation is so like Styx. Steve Perry wanted the band to wait for him to get over his injury and Schon and Cain did not want to wait forever to go out and tour and to be dictated to by one band member.

Was that when Perry was in Hawaii for 2 weeks ?
Have you seen Perry since?
Have you heard him sing anything in the last 10 years ?
Steve Perry lied big time and thats why JRNY went on
Dennis was sick but thats not why they dumped him JY has all but said it in his interviews, The VW commercial and other things got him ousted
Perry was never comming back his inactivity has proved that .

As JY said Dennis will be back in Styx when there playing hockey on the river Styx.

Funny how JY was the only goof to say something so stupid .

Now ime off to see Styx 3 times in the UK in June (Something that would never of happened with DDY in the band) he did not know there was other countries besides USA and ime off to see Dennis in Florida in April, so ime doubley happy.

Hope you can give us a review .