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Postby bugsymalone » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:01 am

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For whatever it's worth, I don't think either song is a very good example of either person's best work, not by a long shot. But I think the point people try to make with "Lonely School" is that Tommy said he wanted to rock, then put out an album that contained that song (complete with the harmonies borrowed from "Easy Like Sunday Morning") and "Little Girl World". I mean, seriously? Even at its heaviest points 'Girls With Guns' has way more in common with 'Cornerstone' than with 'The Grand Illusion'. It sounds like a bad Asia album.

There IS one great song on there, "Kiss Me Hello", that I personally think is as good as anything Tommy's ever written in his life. The rest of it, I can take or leave. Mostly leave, LOL.

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That has always been what surprised me about "Lonely School." Wussy song. Very much like what he seemed to want to escape from with that insufferable Broadway writer, Dennis DeYoung. And the fizzy haired look in the video did not help.

That said, I really like the song "Girls With Guns." Not a hard rocker, but a fun one.


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Postby froy » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:20 am

"bugsymalone"


That has always been what surprised me about "Lonely School." Wussy song. Very much like what he seemed to want to escape from with that insufferable Broadway writer, Dennis DeYoung. And the fizzy haired look in the video did not help.


It's funny how Shaw blasted Babe and FT and then he does the exact same thing with LS, What's up Shaw are you are rocker like you said when you hjacked STYX OR are you a closet ballad guy, We all would like you to come clean here.
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Re: In 84 he does a spinal tap and quits right on stage

Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:40 am

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cittadeeno23 wrote:There REALLY ARE a lot of similarities to Styx And the movie Spinal Tap!!
No wonder JY hates that movie!!!

Derrick Sutton Says he was consulted for that movie AFTER it was written. But I'm not so sure I believe him. LOL!


Derrick Sutton was consulted BEFORE and DURING the movie, he's in the credits. I had a conversation with him last summer that turned into an audio interview. We talked about Spinal Tap and Styx, there are a few obvious references.


Wow, is that interview available anywhere online? He is in the credits. Derek insists that he had nothing to do with the storyline, however. He was brought in only for promotion, he was not part of the creative team.

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If I knew how to put anything on You Tube, I would have my tv interviews with Dennis and JY up there. But I have no clue how to do it. I would also put up my other interviews too with Roger Hodgeson and Nelson plus all the local bands that I interviewed.
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Postby Toph » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:58 am

brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


SHOOZ??? You're saying SHOOZ was a lame tune? And Superstars too??
Now we know the root of the problem! FINALLY, after all this time, the true answer!

The problem is...

Your taste in music sucks.
;)


No actually its quite good, thank you very much. SHOOZ sucks - It is obnoxious overwrought with no diection whatsoever. Superstars in not very good either - the weakest song on Grand Illusion by far.

Here is some advice for you Bry - just because something has heavy guitars in it, doesn't make it a good song.....
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Postby Toph » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:59 am

Everett wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


Babe,Don't let it end and roboto are on line one, two and three toph


And so are about 6 million in record sales too...

Idiot.
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Postby Monker » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:10 am

Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


SHOOZ??? You're saying SHOOZ was a lame tune? And Superstars too??
Now we know the root of the problem! FINALLY, after all this time, the true answer!

The problem is...

Your taste in music sucks.
;)


No actually its quite good, thank you very much. SHOOZ sucks - It is obnoxious overwrought with no diection whatsoever. Superstars in not very good either - the weakest song on Grand Illusion by far.

Here is some advice for you Bry - just because something has heavy guitars in it, doesn't make it a good song.....


And, just because your opinion disagrees with someone elses doesn't mean your opinion is fact.
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Re: In 84 he does a spinal tap and quits right on stage

Postby Rockwriter » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:19 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
cittadeeno23 wrote:There REALLY ARE a lot of similarities to Styx And the movie Spinal Tap!!
No wonder JY hates that movie!!!

Derrick Sutton Says he was consulted for that movie AFTER it was written. But I'm not so sure I believe him. LOL!


Derrick Sutton was consulted BEFORE and DURING the movie, he's in the credits. I had a conversation with him last summer that turned into an audio interview. We talked about Spinal Tap and Styx, there are a few obvious references.


Wow, is that interview available anywhere online? He is in the credits. Derek insists that he had nothing to do with the storyline, however. He was brought in only for promotion, he was not part of the creative team.

Sterling


If I knew how to put anything on You Tube, I would have my tv interviews with Dennis and JY up there. But I have no clue how to do it. I would also put up my other interviews too with Roger Hodgeson and Nelson plus all the local bands that I interviewed.



YouTube is extrremely user-friendly, you could figure it out in about 5 minutes. If you need to change formats you can download a free program called AVS Video Editor 4. Otherwise just a straight upload from your computer.

All right, I'll be looking forward to all of that then! LOL. Get to it.


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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:26 am

YouTube is extrremely user-friendly, you could figure it out in about 5 minutes. If you need to change formats you can download a free program called AVS Video Editor 4. Otherwise just a straight upload from your computer.

All right, I'll be looking forward to all of that then! LOL. Get to it.


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I have everything on dvd, I'll try the free program. I also have to figure out how to edit me out, blech.
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Postby brywool » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:42 am

Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


SHOOZ??? You're saying SHOOZ was a lame tune? And Superstars too??
Now we know the root of the problem! FINALLY, after all this time, the true answer!

The problem is...

Your taste in music sucks.
;)


No actually its quite good, thank you very much. SHOOZ sucks - It is obnoxious overwrought with no diection whatsoever. Superstars in not very good either - the weakest song on Grand Illusion by far.

Here is some advice for you Bry - just because something has heavy guitars in it, doesn't make it a good song.....


no kidding. I don't care if it has heavy guitars in it. I do care if it's just a lame song. Shooz has a great groove and excellent lead vocals going for as well as some great slide guitar work. It goes somewhere and is interesting. "First Time" sounds like it was written by a 14 year old and the keyboards on it are amazingly lame. We'll never agree so... You go and listen to First Time, but I still think if that's what you think of as good, then, well your compass needs a bit of adjustment.
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Postby brywool » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:44 am

Toph wrote:
Everett wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


Babe,Don't let it end and roboto are on line one, two and three toph


And so are about 6 million in record sales too...

Idiot.


didn't know those other songs were singles....
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:13 pm

brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
Everett wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


Babe,Don't let it end and roboto are on line one, two and three toph


And so are about 6 million in record sales too...

Idiot.


didn't know those other songs were singles....


Which songs? All these posts are starting to run together :)
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Postby BlackWall » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:14 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
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cittadeeno23 wrote:I like those 3 songs too! I have a feeling you are a long time Styx fan like myself.
How could anyone not like SuperStars?????? The great Guitar riff, the killer vocals.


I've been a fan since 1972. My very first record was "You Need Love" :)


Suite, was "You Need Love" the song that introduced you to the band? What was the b-side of that record?


I was 6 years old and my family was at a convention for my Dad's work. For the kids they had a dj play music. He played this song and I liked it right away. I asked the guy who the band was and he told me Styx. I told him how much I really liked the song and he gave me the 45, which I still have. It's written on the record, for the dj, "Rock - Fast - Good"

Heads (side A) "You Need Love" and Tails (side B) "You Better Ask"

It's funny, this is the song that I loved first from my favorite band. I didn't hear "Lady" until later :)


This is interesting. From all the research I have done, I was under the impression that "You Need Love" was not released as a single until after "Lady" became a hit in '74. It looked as though the original singles from "Styx II" were: "I'm Gonna Make You Feel It", and then "Lady", neither of which charted at that point. Would it be too much trouble to get the catalogue number of that 45 from you?
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:08 pm

Toph wrote:Here is some advice for you Bry - just because something has heavy guitars in it, doesn't make it a good song.....


JY thinks it does! :D
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Postby Toph » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:43 pm

brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
Everett wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
froy wrote:
"brywool"] "froy"]


I also can't believe that FT is a direction that you would've liked to see the band go into.


That's like saying She Cares is the direction you wanted them to go.


I've never stood up for She Cares and TS wasn't DUMB ENOUGH to think that should be a single for the band. It was a throwaway track.
Until that time, it was really the only Throwaway track he'd produced.


Never Say Never, Shooz, and Superstars would like to have a word with you....


Babe,Don't let it end and roboto are on line one, two and three toph


And so are about 6 million in record sales too...

Idiot.


didn't know those other songs were singles....


There's a reason for that...
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