Joe Elliott on DDY and Roboto

[masque]

I love the Beatles. Without question, they are my favorite band. As time progressed with them, Paul become more and more pop oriented and John the opposite. In my mind, the nadir of Paul's music in the Beatles was "Honey Pie" from the White Album. John despised that tune (and with good reason - Lol). I happen to love McCartney, but, he, too, falls prey to the same type of criticism as DDY. Hard to believe he wrote and released some of the junk that he did. On the other hand, even after some of his weaker moments, Paul could still come up with and release something as brilliant as "Band On The Run" (the album and song). Imo, DDY has yet to do that. His finest moments, to me, were in the 70s and it has been all downhill from there. Personally, I think the song "Desert Moon" is as good a song as DDY has ever written or recorded. Even the music of the song seems to evoke the feel of a memory (like Seger's "Mainstreet"). If only the rest of his solo stuff was that strong.

I guess with "Music Time," the video is just so God awful that I can't see beyond it ......

YUP. Beatles are the kings to me. Paul definitely is the man. He's written some crap too for sure. But, whether lyrically lame or stylistically, there's usually SOMETHING there I can grab a hold of as a piece of interest. I ALSO like the diversity of Styx. That was my issue with Dennis- he LOST that diversity and kept repeating the same old thing over and over again. First Time, Babe, Don't Let it End, It Takes Love, While There's Still Time to me are so darned similar that it just became boring and Styx was never boring to me. I like the Dennis ballads, just not so many of them. When Dennis was great, it was when he was writing politically slanted lyrics. The lyrics to First Time sound like a Jr. High love note. I hated that song so much. But then he'll write something like "Show Me The Way" or "Harry's Hands". Those are brilliant tunes. I just think Dennis lost his way a bit. The songs on 100 Years are so much better (for the most part- though there are two that I think he should've not released) than what he'd done in Styx since 82. Just my opinion and I know the usual cast of crazies will be all over me.

Harrys Hands should have been the single off Boomchild.

i 100% agree with you toph....best song by far on that album.

[masque]

This opinion, of course, coming from the guy who sang, "Step inside, walk this way/You and me, babe/Hey hey," LOL.
Sterling

OMG sterling, I had the EXACT same thought.

They were sell out #1 band of the 80s. Went from making hard rock to bubble gum and now he's critisizing someone else for the same? I used to respect Joe, but what a douchebag.

Lets not forget some other Def Leppard timeless classics:

"Make love. Like a Man. I'm a man. That's what I am"
"I'm your average ordinary every day dude. Driving with my baby to get her in the mood"
"I want to touch you, til we're stuck like glue"

The only GOOD thing about Pour Some Sugar On Me is it replaced an even worse song at #1.... Don't Worry Be Happy.

Ummm.......

Domo arigato, Mr, Roboto,
Domo, Domo,
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Domo, Domo,
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto,

Plus the video had "grown men wearing robot suits and walking around like a robot." And, I would have to say that "Make love. Like a Man. I'm a man. That's what I am" is a little more rock and roll than, say, "Secret, secret, I've got a secret."

The whole thing about Roboto is that the label insisted on releasing it as a single. Dennis thought of it as nothing more than a lead in to the story line. He never envisioned it as a single or a hit song.

Exactly - blame A&M. Dennis has said the first single was intended to be DLIE. He also says rightly that the reason for Kilroy only achiveing platinum status and not 3x platinum status (and what they would give for platinum status today) was that there wasn't a strogn Rock track on the album. He is right. There was no Rockin The paradise/Grand Illusion from Dennis. No Renegade from tommy and No Miss America from JY. there is nothing on that album that would have been played on the rock stations of the day. Cold War - techno pop, High Time - techno pop, Heavy Metal poisoning - clsoest to a rocker but still more glam rock than hard rock, JGTTN, DLIE, HWBHB - balldas, Double Life - techno pop, Roboto - techno pop. One rock song on Kilroy might have done wonders for it.

omg....i cant beleive it.....i agree 100% again with you ....this cant be right

[kansas666]

that certainly doesn't make DDY an asshole.... He's admitted in the past that he could be difficult, and that he somewhat dragged them into the whole Roboto thing.

But that doesn't make him an asshole.

[Baron Von Bielski]

that certainly doesn't make DDY an asshole.... He's admitted in the past that he could be difficult, and that he somewhat dragged them into the whole Roboto thing.

But that doesn't make him an asshole.

Not by definition. Being difficult does not make you an asshole.