Jimmy Fallon recreates Too Much Time Music Video

[Baron Von Bielski]

I agree with the fact that Styx was an AOR band. That's to me what makes them great and others 70's band of similar genre as well. Journey, Foreigner, Fleetwood Mac, etc... sure these bands including Styx all had many hit singles, but it was about the album as a whole. The message, the flow, the theme. A lot goes into making records like that. And the had constraints of about 45min for a single album. Nowadays it's just a bunch of songs slapped together. At least that's my opinion. Styx had lotsa hits, but they were a completed band that made complete albums.

[Monker]

That is simply not true.

Tommy is the ONLY member of Styx to have major success outside of the band...in Damn Yankees, including a #1 song. The only major success Dennis has ever had has been in Styx...everything else is no more remarkable that what Tommy has done, other than DY.

But, you didn't answer her question. What difference does it make, other than to stroke Dennis' ego and justify his arrogance?

Sorry but using DY as example of TS being more successful then DDY is a stretch. DY was a group not a solo act. I think you would be hard pressed to associate their success was due to TS himself. Let's compare apples to apples here. Which would be their solo works. In that case, their level of success is equal.

I am not comparing apples to oranges. I am comparing which tree bore more fruit. Toph said, "Dennis is a better more accomplished, more successful artist than Tommy. I'm sorry you can't handle it." That is not the same thing as you are saying.

[Boomchild]

Okay, Toph, when is the last time you SAW Tommy throw a tantrum? 33 YEARS ago when he smashed his guitar on stage and stomped off? Good Lord, Toph, if anyone needs to grow up around here it's you. You come across as the immature baby, crying, wailing, and waving your fists around because things aren't the way you want them and perceive them. Sad.

[Everett]

WHEN WILL THEY BE ON THE SHOW???????

(loud enough??????? )

[Toph]

...And Renegade for years has had cultural significance to Pittsburgh. And Tommy is in the Alabama Music Hall of Fame. Is Dennis in any hall of fame? This Tommy vs Dennis shit can go on and on and on, but really, what's the point? What's the fucking point? To whom does it matter, except Toph?

Dennis is a better more accomplished, more successful artist than Tommy. I'm sorry you can't handle it.

That is simply not true.

Tommy is the ONLY member of Styx to have major success outside of the band...in Damn Yankees, including a #1 song. The only major success Dennis has ever had has been in Styx...everything else is no more remarkable that what Tommy has done, other than DY.

But, you didn't answer her question. What difference does it make, other than to stroke Dennis' ego and justify his arrogance?

By everything measurable, Dennis is more accomplished than Tommy. Damn Yankees never had a number 1 song. "High Enough" a Jack Blades composition where Tommy sang backup was their only top 10 single. And yes, it was a ballad. Familiar turf for Tommy. Singing backup on a song sung and written by the more talented member of the group.

Dennis also had a top 10 single solo. Did Tommy?

[Toph]

Not desperate, just wanting to get the band back together for the fans. Not something arrogant Tommy Shaw even considers. Tommy is and has always been all about himself. He's acts like a child because he never matured beyond a child. Has temper tantrums and only thinks of himself. He's a pathetic little baby and can't see the forest for the trees.

OH, please....you are simply making the argument for Styx staying as far away from Dennis and his fans as possible.

If that is how Dennis' fans view Tommy, and an extension of Dennis' views, there is no reason for Tommy to ever want to work with Dennis ever again, in Styx or not. It perfectly explains why he doesn't even acknowledge the conversation.

This coming from a fucktard who bashes DDY every chance he gets.

[Toph]

Take "charts" off the table then. Go by what the band admits is their biggest songs. GH1: DDY 10 songs, TS 5, JY 1. And who produced all those triple platinum albums? And your comment about Babe and Roboto stems from your short sighted ignorance. Those songs brought them millions of new fans. I'm sorry you can't handle the fact that those songs were so successful and that DDY blows Shaw out of the water in terms of overall contribution to the band.

Like I said, it goes completely over your head.

The GH is bunk...compare how well Styx' sold compared to Journey's. All this crap about production selling albums is bullshit.

I wish Styx management from back then was interviewed the way Herbie was...your entire argument shows a HUGE ignorance of how albums were sold back then. It's so fucking stupid to say production sold an album.

You fail to see the wisdom of Herbie's warning about hit songs. Roboto and Babe killed Styx. Those millions of fans did not keep the band together. Lady and Grand Illusioin is the Styx history that brought in millions of fans that built the legacy of Styx. When Dennis tried to shift to crappy pop music, he killed the band. He killed the thing that he loved.

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

[Toph]

He's absolutely right> BNW sucked ass - especially the Tommy and JY songs. IF you think that is good music, then your taste sucks worse than I even thought. He did produce every Styx album. JY did the bookkeeping and Tommy did blow and looked cute for 16 magazine. That was the role of each member.

Glad you have admitted here that even DDY's material for BNW "sucked ass". Somehow, I don't think DDY would agree with your assertions about JY's and TS's contributions to the band. I challenge you to post this statement, in verbatim on DDY's FB page.

Nope, I said especially the Tommy and JY songs.

[Toph]

...And Renegade for years has had cultural significance to Pittsburgh. And Tommy is in the Alabama Music Hall of Fame. Is Dennis in any hall of fame? This Tommy vs Dennis shit can go on and on and on, but really, what's the point? What's the fucking point? To whom does it matter, except Toph?

Dennis is a better more accomplished, more successful artist than Tommy. I'm sorry you can't handle it.

I'd be interested in knowing just how you measure success. Apparently a Hall of Fame and a Hollywood F.A.M.E. Award from the LA Music Awards in 2010 just aren't enough. Not to mention all the artists Tommy has written and performed with, performances at NAMM for many years, tribute albums he has sung on, being invited to the Grand Ol Opry, and so forth.

Sorry you can't handle it.

Again, show me numbers to back up this success. You can't. Sorry.

[Toph]

Not desperate, just wanting to get the band back together for the fans. Not something arrogant Tommy Shaw even considers. Tommy is and has always been all about himself. He's acts like a child because he never matured beyond a child. Has temper tantrums and only thinks of himself. He's a pathetic little baby and can't see the forest for the trees.

OH, please....you are simply making the argument for Styx staying as far away from Dennis and his fans as possible.

If that is how Dennis' fans view Tommy, and an extension of Dennis' views, there is no reason for Tommy to ever want to work with Dennis ever again, in Styx or not. It perfectly explains why he doesn't even acknowledge the conversation.

Okay, Toph, when is the last time you SAW Tommy throw a tantrum? 33 YEARS ago when he smashed his guitar on stage and stomped off? Good Lord, Toph, if anyone needs to grow up around here it's you. You come across as the immature baby, crying, wailing, and waving your fists around because things aren't the way you want them and perceive them. Sad.

Ha. Nice deflection, Cassie bathwater, but let's get to the facts.

Public tantrums that I can discuss here (and there are at least 10 for each one of these that you don't know about).

1. Waaah, you're going to release First Time...Waah I'm going to quit the band if you release it!! Waaah! Waaah! Result: A bonafide top 10 single which was already at top 5 status in LA and Chicago was immediately shelved for Why Me. Radio stations were so pissed that many would not play another Styx single off Cornerstone

2. Waaah!!! Waah!!! I don't want to do another concept album!!! Please don't make me do another concept album...Result: The one time the band overrules the baby and continues down toward making Kilroy...although a dumbed down version from the initial idea (check GH1 liner notes if you want to know more)

3. Waaahh!! Waahh!!!! I know we shot a half a million dollar video, but I don't want to release Haven't We Been Here Before!!! I don't want to release another ballad as a single even though I wrote it! Release a live version of my crappy song cold war instead!!! Result _ HWBW shelved - another song with lots of potential for High Time which stiffed.

4. Waah! Waah! I'm tired of Kilroy. I want to stay in my dressing room and do blow. I quit! Result - Styx breaks up for 7+ years

5. Waah! Waah! Hurry up with your solo album Dennis because my solo career has flopped so badly that I need a job and money for my now former Coke habit....Result - Can't wait 6 months for DDY to finish album and joins DY. Styx brings in GB

6. Waaah!! Waah! I don't want to give you any more time to get better Dennis. If we don't tour its not in my best interest in finishing the album!!! Waaah! Aaaah!! I don't care if the albums not finished. We are going to release it and tour anyway!! Result: Styx released crappy Brave New Flop which immediately stiffs because its not close to complete and goes from headlining major arenas to opening up for Journey. DDY out of band.

Shall I continue?

[Toph]

Okay, Toph, when is the last time you SAW Tommy throw a tantrum? 33 YEARS ago when he smashed his guitar on stage and stomped off? Good Lord, Toph, if anyone needs to grow up around here it's you. You come across as the immature baby, crying, wailing, and waving your fists around because things aren't the way you want them and perceive them. Sad.

Always wondered what your wife looked like, boomer.

[Toph]

WHEN WILL THEY BE ON THE SHOW???????

(loud enough??????? )

They won't.

[Boomchild]

Nope, I said especially the Tommy and JY songs.

So now Parrot, you are going to play the semantics game. The first part of your reply said "BNW sucked ass". You then went on to point out that the material that "sucked ass" the worst were TS and JY's material. The first part does not exempt DDY from the picture since he was part of that project as a whole. You did not say it "sucked ass" except for this or that. So now you either are back peddling or you do not know how to construct a sentence to explain what you mean.

[Boomchild]

Always wondered what your wife looked like, boomer.

Oh boy you really got me there! Hey Polly, want a cracker?

[gr8dane]

Take "charts" off the table then. Go by what the band admits is their biggest songs. GH1: DDY 10 songs, TS 5, JY 1. And who produced all those triple platinum albums? And your comment about Babe and Roboto stems from your short sighted ignorance. Those songs brought them millions of new fans. I'm sorry you can't handle the fact that those songs were so successful and that DDY blows Shaw out of the water in terms of overall contribution to the band.

Like I said, it goes completely over your head.

The GH is bunk...compare how well Styx' sold compared to Journey's. All this crap about production selling albums is bullshit.

I wish Styx management from back then was interviewed the way Herbie was...your entire argument shows a HUGE ignorance of how albums were sold back then. It's so fucking stupid to say production sold an album.

You fail to see the wisdom of Herbie's warning about hit songs. Roboto and Babe killed Styx. Those millions of fans did not keep the band together. Lady and Grand Illusioin is the Styx history that brought in millions of fans that built the legacy of Styx. When Dennis tried to shift to crappy pop music, he killed the band. He killed the thing that he loved.

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

30 years ? Isn't that something ?
Then you must know about target audience .
Who is your target audience ?
Who is Styx' target audience ?

[Monker]

Take "charts" off the table then. Go by what the band admits is their biggest songs. GH1: DDY 10 songs, TS 5, JY 1. And who produced all those triple platinum albums? And your comment about Babe and Roboto stems from your short sighted ignorance. Those songs brought them millions of new fans. I'm sorry you can't handle the fact that those songs were so successful and that DDY blows Shaw out of the water in terms of overall contribution to the band.

Like I said, it goes completely over your head.

The GH is bunk...compare how well Styx' sold compared to Journey's. All this crap about production selling albums is bullshit.

I wish Styx management from back then was interviewed the way Herbie was...your entire argument shows a HUGE ignorance of how albums were sold back then. It's so fucking stupid to say production sold an album.

You fail to see the wisdom of Herbie's warning about hit songs. Roboto and Babe killed Styx. Those millions of fans did not keep the band together. Lady and Grand Illusioin is the Styx history that brought in millions of fans that built the legacy of Styx. When Dennis tried to shift to crappy pop music, he killed the band. He killed the thing that he loved.

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

Yeah, right. I believe that about as much as I believe Andy Avery was a former member of Journey.

You are about as much in the music biz as froyline is.

[Boomchild]

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

Yeah, right. I believe that about as much as I believe Andy Avery was a former member of Journey.

You are about as much in the music biz as froyline is.

C'mon Monker, isn't being a clerk at an F.Y.E. music store being in the "music business".

[Cassie May]

Not desperate, just wanting to get the band back together for the fans. Not something arrogant Tommy Shaw even considers. Tommy is and has always been all about himself. He's acts like a child because he never matured beyond a child. Has temper tantrums and only thinks of himself. He's a pathetic little baby and can't see the forest for the trees.

Okay, Toph, when is the last time you SAW Tommy throw a tantrum? 33 YEARS ago when he smashed his guitar on stage and stomped off? Good Lord, Toph, if anyone needs to grow up around here it's you. You come across as the immature baby, crying, wailing, and waving your fists around because things aren't the way you want them and perceive them. Sad.

Ha. Nice deflection, Cassie bathwater, but let's get to the facts.

Public tantrums that I can discuss here (and there are at least 10 for each one of these that you don't know about).

1. Waaah, you're going to release First Time...Waah I'm going to quit the band if you release it!! Waaah! Waaah! Result: A bonafide top 10 single which was already at top 5 status in LA and Chicago was immediately shelved for Why Me. Radio stations were so pissed that many would not play another Styx single off Cornerstone

2. Waaah!!! Waah!!! I don't want to do another concept album!!! Please don't make me do another concept album...Result: The one time the band overrules the baby and continues down toward making Kilroy...although a dumbed down version from the initial idea (check GH1 liner notes if you want to know more)

3. Waaahh!! Waahh!!!! I know we shot a half a million dollar video, but I don't want to release Haven't We Been Here Before!!! I don't want to release another ballad as a single even though I wrote it! Release a live version of my crappy song cold war instead!!! Result _ HWBW shelved - another song with lots of potential for High Time which stiffed.

4. Waah! Waah! I'm tired of Kilroy. I want to stay in my dressing room and do blow. I quit! Result - Styx breaks up for 7+ years

5. Waah! Waah! Hurry up with your solo album Dennis because my solo career has flopped so badly that I need a job and money for my now former Coke habit....Result - Can't wait 6 months for DDY to finish album and joins DY. Styx brings in GB

6. Waaah!! Waah! I don't want to give you any more time to get better Dennis. If we don't tour its not in my best interest in finishing the album!!! Waaah! Aaaah!! I don't care if the albums not finished. We are going to release it and tour anyway!! Result: Styx released crappy Brave New Flop which immediately stiffs because its not close to complete and goes from headlining major arenas to opening up for Journey. DDY out of band.

Shall I continue?

Again, you are harping on events that happened over THIRTY YEARS ago. Years. Decades. Got any ammo that's more recent? Of course you don't, because you refuse to stop living in the past.

What I find interesting is that you refer to anyone who comes to Tommy's defense as a drinker of his bathwater, which was a particularly nasty comment made by YOUR idol, Dennis. This is who you look up to? To be fair, Dennis has not publicly stated anything like that since. Perhaps you should follow his example. I can't imagine he would be thrilled to have a fan as negative, derogatory, and mean-spirited as you.

[Cassie May]

By everything measurable, Dennis is more accomplished than Tommy. Damn Yankees never had a number 1 song. "High Enough" a Jack Blades composition where Tommy sang backup was their only top 10 single. And yes, it was a ballad. Familiar turf for Tommy. Singing backup on a song sung and written by the more talented member of the group.

Dennis also had a top 10 single solo. Did Tommy?

Get your facts straight. High Enough was written by both Jack and Tommy, with Nugent adding the guitar solo. Jack and Tommy have each stated that the song was written at Tommy's home in New York. Jack had the opening line and Tommy heard him singing it; Tommy asked Jack what it was, and Jack stated that he just had that part of it. Tommy told him that he had the rest of it, and they finished the song in half an hour. It was not a "Jack Blades composition" with Tommy merely "singing back up."

[Boomchild]

What I find interesting is that you refer to anyone who comes to Tommy's defense as a drinker of his bathwater, which was a particularly nasty comment made by YOUR idol, Dennis. This is who you look up to? To be fair, Dennis has not publicly stated anything like that since. Perhaps you should follow his example. I can't imagine he would be thrilled to have a fan as negative, derogatory, and mean-spirited as you.

The reality is that Parrot labels anyone who has a differing viewpoint on DDY or the situation(s) between him and his former band mates a Tommy bathwater drinker. He has lobbed that label at me simply because I pointed out that TS and JY have not shown any indication that their position has changed when it comes to a reunion with DDY. Which is ludicrous. Anyone that has been around here long enough knows that I do not have any appreciation for or interest in the current incarnation of Styx. Apparently, Parrot cannot understand that people can look at things objectively which has nothing to do with favoritism at all.

[Toph]

Nope, I said especially the Tommy and JY songs.

So now Parrot, you are going to play the semantics game. The first part of your reply said "BNW sucked ass". You then went on to point out that the material that "sucked ass" the worst were TS and JY's material. The first part does not exempt DDY from the picture since he was part of that project as a whole. You did not say it "sucked ass" except for this or that. So now you either are back peddling or you do not know how to construct a sentence to explain what you mean.

No I'm just not an anal retentive asshole like yourself! The album sucked. DDY's songs such as WTST, Rosaland, and Fallen Angel were pretty good. I was not a huge fan of Hip Hop cracy or Great Expectations. But all of JY and TS's material sucked on that album.

[Toph]

Like I said, it goes completely over your head.

The GH is bunk...compare how well Styx' sold compared to Journey's. All this crap about production selling albums is bullshit.

I wish Styx management from back then was interviewed the way Herbie was...your entire argument shows a HUGE ignorance of how albums were sold back then. It's so fucking stupid to say production sold an album.

You fail to see the wisdom of Herbie's warning about hit songs. Roboto and Babe killed Styx. Those millions of fans did not keep the band together. Lady and Grand Illusioin is the Styx history that brought in millions of fans that built the legacy of Styx. When Dennis tried to shift to crappy pop music, he killed the band. He killed the thing that he loved.

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

Yeah, right. I believe that about as much as I believe Andy Avery was a former member of Journey.

You are about as much in the music biz as froyline is.

Your as naive as you are a tommy bathwater drinker.

[Toph]

Okay, Toph, when is the last time you SAW Tommy throw a tantrum? 33 YEARS ago when he smashed his guitar on stage and stomped off? Good Lord, Toph, if anyone needs to grow up around here it's you. You come across as the immature baby, crying, wailing, and waving your fists around because things aren't the way you want them and perceive them. Sad.

Ha. Nice deflection, Cassie bathwater, but let's get to the facts.

Public tantrums that I can discuss here (and there are at least 10 for each one of these that you don't know about).

1. Waaah, you're going to release First Time...Waah I'm going to quit the band if you release it!! Waaah! Waaah! Result: A bonafide top 10 single which was already at top 5 status in LA and Chicago was immediately shelved for Why Me. Radio stations were so pissed that many would not play another Styx single off Cornerstone

2. Waaah!!! Waah!!! I don't want to do another concept album!!! Please don't make me do another concept album...Result: The one time the band overrules the baby and continues down toward making Kilroy...although a dumbed down version from the initial idea (check GH1 liner notes if you want to know more)

3. Waaahh!! Waahh!!!! I know we shot a half a million dollar video, but I don't want to release Haven't We Been Here Before!!! I don't want to release another ballad as a single even though I wrote it! Release a live version of my crappy song cold war instead!!! Result _ HWBW shelved - another song with lots of potential for High Time which stiffed.

4. Waah! Waah! I'm tired of Kilroy. I want to stay in my dressing room and do blow. I quit! Result - Styx breaks up for 7+ years

5. Waah! Waah! Hurry up with your solo album Dennis because my solo career has flopped so badly that I need a job and money for my now former Coke habit....Result - Can't wait 6 months for DDY to finish album and joins DY. Styx brings in GB

6. Waaah!! Waah! I don't want to give you any more time to get better Dennis. If we don't tour its not in my best interest in finishing the album!!! Waaah! Aaaah!! I don't care if the albums not finished. We are going to release it and tour anyway!! Result: Styx released crappy Brave New Flop which immediately stiffs because its not close to complete and goes from headlining major arenas to opening up for Journey. DDY out of band.

Shall I continue?

Again, you are harping on events that happened over THIRTY YEARS ago. Years. Decades. Got any ammo that's more recent? Of course you don't, because you refuse to stop living in the past.

What I find interesting is that you refer to anyone who comes to Tommy's defense as a drinker of his bathwater, which was a particularly nasty comment made by YOUR idol, Dennis. This is who you look up to? To be fair, Dennis has not publicly stated anything like that since. Perhaps you should follow his example. I can't imagine he would be thrilled to have a fan as negative, derogatory, and mean-spirited as you.

Not mean spirited. Just telling it like it is, sister. Sorry you can't handle it.

As far as the above examples, love how you can be so dismissive of all of them. It shows you hide your head in the sand. Oh and by the way those are just the public examples. Like I said, those are just the tip of the iceberg...

[Toph]

By everything measurable, Dennis is more accomplished than Tommy. Damn Yankees never had a number 1 song. "High Enough" a Jack Blades composition where Tommy sang backup was their only top 10 single. And yes, it was a ballad. Familiar turf for Tommy. Singing backup on a song sung and written by the more talented member of the group.

Dennis also had a top 10 single solo. Did Tommy?

Get your facts straight. High Enough was written by both Jack and Tommy, with Nugent adding the guitar solo. Jack and Tommy have each stated that the song was written at Tommy's home in New York. Jack had the opening line and Tommy heard him singing it; Tommy asked Jack what it was, and Jack stated that he just had that part of it. Tommy told him that he had the rest of it, and they finished the song in half an hour. It was not a "Jack Blades composition" with Tommy merely "singing back up."

It was primarily written by Jack and it was sung by Jack. Tommy in the backseat of a major hit...again.

[Toph]

What I find interesting is that you refer to anyone who comes to Tommy's defense as a drinker of his bathwater, which was a particularly nasty comment made by YOUR idol, Dennis. This is who you look up to? To be fair, Dennis has not publicly stated anything like that since. Perhaps you should follow his example. I can't imagine he would be thrilled to have a fan as negative, derogatory, and mean-spirited as you.

The reality is that Parrot labels anyone who has a differing viewpoint on DDY or the situation(s) between him and his former band mates a Tommy bathwater drinker. He has lobbed that label at me simply because I pointed out that TS and JY have not shown any indication that their position has changed when it comes to a reunion with DDY. Which is ludicrous. Anyone that has been around here long enough knows that I do not have any appreciation for or interest in the current incarnation of Styx. Apparently, Parrot cannot understand that people can look at things objectively which has nothing to do with favoritism at all.

And you act like Mr. Objective when you are, in fact, a complete tool who knows absolutely nothing about the band or its inner workings, but like to act as if you are "in the know." You are clueless so stop with the act, ok?

[Boomchild]

No I'm just not an anal retentive asshole like yourself! The album sucked. DDY's songs such as WTST, Rosaland, and Fallen Angel were pretty good. I was not a huge fan of Hip Hop cracy or Great Expectations. But all of JY and TS's material sucked on that album.

Sorry that's not what you initially said. You said the album sucked ass which in that context means all of it. Keep trying Parrot.

[Boomchild]

And you act like Mr. Objective when you are, in fact, a complete tool who knows absolutely nothing about the band or its inner workings, but like to act as if you are "in the know." You are clueless so stop with the act, ok?

You are the one that is claiming to have knowledge of the bands inner workings. It is YOU who has claimed to be "in the know" of information not privy to the public. Yet when called out to provide proof of such claim, YOU DON'T. Everything that I have discussed here is based on public knowledge. I NEVER claimed to have insider information. But YOU DID. So please go ahead and prove us all wrong and give us something that hasn't been made public. May guess is the next reply will contain nothing but the now infamous parroting of "Dennis wants a reunion". Hey Polly, wanna cracker?

[Monker]

You really have no clue. I've been in the music business for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.

Yeah, right. I believe that about as much as I believe Andy Avery was a former member of Journey.

You are about as much in the music biz as froyline is.

Your as naive as you are a tommy bathwater drinker.

A naive person would take you at your word despite your insane displays of immaturity.

You are no insider. You may be a person or two closer to Dennis. But, you are not talking to him or anybody close enough to give to you any real "behind the scenes" info. You have been called on it many times and you don't know any more than anybody else.

Those who ARE on the inside don't act like you. They respect the artist to not act like an ass on his behalf in public. They know it reflects back on him, it's disrespectful to him, and bad business for everybody when a representative for DDY acts like an asshole on a forum that someone like Andrew owns. You ARE about as close to being "inside" as froyline...you think you are more important than you are, or that you know more than others. You don't.

People who are close, like Zan, for example, get tired of the bullshit and leave forums like this. They don't stir it even more. Suite is an example on the other side. She seemed to be able to get "behind the scenes" stuff from Dennis...but when froyline went wacko, she turned against him and told him he wasn't helping Dennis by being an ass. That is how people who are "in the know" act. People like you may be in contact with the people who ARE "behind the scenes", but you are NOT them.

You're a peon like everybody else. You can go off being your asshole self because you have nothing to lose. What is Dennis going to do if he sees you acting like this? It's not like he's going to cut you off - he isn't communicating with you in the first place. In fact, if I were Dennis, I'd probably ask Andrew to ban you to get you to shut up and stop make him look bad on Andrew's forum.

[Monker]

By everything measurable, Dennis is more accomplished than Tommy. Damn Yankees never had a number 1 song. "High Enough" a Jack Blades composition where Tommy sang backup was their only top 10 single. And yes, it was a ballad. Familiar turf for Tommy. Singing backup on a song sung and written by the more talented member of the group.

Dennis also had a top 10 single solo. Did Tommy?

Get your facts straight. High Enough was written by both Jack and Tommy, with Nugent adding the guitar solo. Jack and Tommy have each stated that the song was written at Tommy's home in New York. Jack had the opening line and Tommy heard him singing it; Tommy asked Jack what it was, and Jack stated that he just had that part of it. Tommy told him that he had the rest of it, and they finished the song in half an hour. It was not a "Jack Blades composition" with Tommy merely "singing back up."

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Back in the day, I used to be in touch with Micky Jorgensen who knew Tommy and Jack about the same as Zan knows Glen. I wonder what she would say about this.

And, BTW, they presented what they had for "High Enough" to Ted..he said, "Do you know what that song needs?" They expected him to say it needs to have its throat slit and gutted and hung in the high noon sun. Instead, he says, "This..." and picks up his guitar starts wailing out a solo. Ted had nothing but good things to say about that song and defended it at times.

The bottom line is everything for DY was a team effort and it shows. The same as with Cyclorama.

[Cassie May]

Not mean spirited. Just telling it like it is, sister. Sorry you can't handle it.

As far as the above examples, love how you can be so dismissive of all of them. It shows you hide your head in the sand. Oh and by the way those are just the public examples. Like I said, those are just the tip of the iceberg...

Toph, Toph, Toph. I am not dismissive of the examples you used. What I am dismissive of is the simple fact that they all happened DECADES ago and do not reflect the person he is TODAY. Can you understand that simple concept? Are you the exact same person you were 30 years ago? So, what tantrums has Tommy thrown TODAY? Or yesterday? You need to stop blowing shit out your ass and start backing up your ignorant statements. Proof, Toph. Bona fide, documented proof. Show us your credentials of "30+ years in the music business." Show us your proof of the inner workings of the Styx camp. Tell us about their court settlement and show the documents. Come on, Toph, we all want to know. Put up or shut the fuck up.