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Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:33 am
by bugsymalone
Since I have moved out to the country, going anywhere requires semi-long drives in the ol' F-150. Anyway, I listen to LOTS of music on CD when I drive.

Where is this going, you say?

OK, I listened to Cornerstone just yesterday and I must say this is simply one terrific album in so many ways. I cannot imagine not having it in your collection of you collect Classic Styx music.

There are only 3, well, make that 2 1/2 songs I don't care for: First Time, Eddie and Babe would be the half because I don't hate it, just am tired of it.

Everything else on it is just steller Styx IMO. I think the whole CD is worth owning for Tommy's Love in the Midnight. Lights, Why Me, Borrowed Time, Never Say Never and Boat on the River are all superb songs.

That is a lot of good music, folks.

Bugsy's .02 this morning.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:55 am
by yogi
I agree 100%!!It is ONE EXCELLENT CD!!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:01 am
by DeeJaySTYX
Musically,I have to agree also that this an excellent CD...

Re: Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:21 am
by Hippie
There are only 3, well, make that 2 1/2 songs I don't care for: First Time, Eddie and Babe would be the half because I don't hate it, just am tired of it.


You don't like "Eddie"?! :shock:

That's one of my favs on the CD! Killer JY tune !

But I agree, Cornerstone is a good solid CD. I'd rank it as one of their better CD's.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:45 am
by ek88
Overall, I like this CD. I usually skip over Why Me and First Time, and that's about it. Sometimes I pass on Babe and Boat On The River, not because I don't like them, but because I've heard them more than the other songs.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:23 am
by classicstyxfan
I'll be the voice of descent ( sp? ) on this thread......Cornerstone was a let down for me, and I have to be in just the right mood to pull it out/dust it off.....I consider it the first LP Styx released that was a major step BACKWARDS from the previous release ( in the A&M era )

It's a good LP that has the misfortune of being released after 4 Great LP's in a Row. Thus, it did not live up to my expectations of the band.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:59 am
by yogi
While I dont think its near as good as Equinox, The Grand Illusion, and Pieces Of Eight I like it much better than Paradise Theatre and much much much better than Crystal Ball.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:39 am
by classicstyxfan
I'll Take Jennifer, This Old Man, and Put Me On

over

First Time, Babe and Eddie any day of the week !

and I'll Take Crystal Ball and Sweet Madamoiselle over any 2 TS cuts on Cornerstone........but that's just me.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:03 am
by yogi
Love In The Midnight and Lights are pretty darn good!!!!

Re: Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:16 am
by Ash
Hippie wrote:
There are only 3, well, make that 2 1/2 songs I don't care for: First Time, Eddie and Babe would be the half because I don't hate it, just am tired of it.


You don't like "Eddie"?! :shock:

That's one of my favs on the CD! Killer JY tune !

But I agree, Cornerstone is a good solid CD. I'd rank it as one of their better CD's.



Eddie is the best JY song ever. The lyric is great and the musicianship he demonstrates on this song alone is simply outstanding. This song is -BY FAR- the best work of his career.

Plus... I hate Ted Kennedy.... so I like it just that much more. :)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:01 am
by kansas666
I don't know if they were trying to do disco or what. But about half of the album sounds like one big long boring song to me. :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:21 am
by ek88
I'll Take Jennifer, This Old Man, and Put Me On over First Time, Babe and Eddie any day of the week !


Absolutely!

and I'll Take Crystal Ball and Sweet Madamoiselle over any 2 TS cuts on Cornerstone........but that's just me.


We're in agreement again, although I might take Lights over Mademoiselle.

In my opinion, Styx' best run of music (on consecutive albums) is found on Equinox-Pieces Of Eight. Since then, Paradise Theatre and Cyclorama are the only ones that come close (IMHO).

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:42 am
by classicstyxfan
I will Take Cornerstone over:

Kilroy, Brave New World, and Styx (1)

and, it's 6 of 1 - 1/2 dozen of the other with:

Edge, Serpent and Man of Miracles........

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:44 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Oh, I love Cornerstone!! I now I mentioned it before in posts how each album/cd means something special to me :)

I love most of the songs especially "Why Me", "Lights", "Boat on The River" and more than ever "Borrowed Time"!!

When I listen to this cd, I really can't hear the "disco" music - LOL, I'll have to play it again today.

When I was younger it was "neat" to find out the meaning of the album cover - LOL I wish that article was still up and running from the magazine 16.

Re: Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:01 am
by DeeJaySTYX
Ash wrote:
Hippie wrote:
There are only 3, well, make that 2 1/2 songs I don't care for: First Time, Eddie and Babe would be the half because I don't hate it, just am tired of it.


You don't like "Eddie"?! :shock:

That's one of my favs on the CD! Killer JY tune !

But I agree, Cornerstone is a good solid CD. I'd rank it as one of their better CD's.



Eddie is the best JY song ever. The lyric is great and the musicianship he demonstrates on this song alone is simply outstanding. This song is -BY FAR- the best work of his career.

Plus... I hate Ted Kennedy.... so I like it just that much more. :)


I don't get it...If you hate Ted Kennedy, Why would you like "Eddie" that much more???

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:12 am
by swwskj
Hey Classic and Yogi,

After Pieces of Eight, just about anything was gonna be a letdown.

Scott

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:19 am
by styxfanNH
Now there's a lost treasure.....Jennifer

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:17 pm
by bugsymalone
I need to make a JY songs thread here. But Eddie, to me,is nowhere near his best work with Styx.

I think musically, Cornerstone matches up well with most of Styx' other recordings. No, it is no Grand Illusion, Pieces of Eight and what I think is their best recording, Equinox, but it has some wonderful, listenable music that I go back to time and again.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:22 pm
by Abitaman
Cornerstone is very good, A-, if I must grade it. :lol: I like all the songs, with Never Say Never, being ok :shock: . More of a pop sound than any other cd. But that is the good thing about Styx, all cds have a different mood to them, but still sound like Styx-ERIC

Re: Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:32 pm
by Ash
DeeJaySTYX wrote:I don't get it...If you hate Ted Kennedy, Why would you like "Eddie" that much more???


The song Eddie was written about Teddy Kennedy and his possible run for president in 1980.

Eddie now don't you run
You know you're a bootlegger's son
and you saw just what it's done
to the others

Eddie now don't you run
it's the end of all your fun
and you saw just what they've done
to your brothers

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:45 pm
by Victim Of My Own Design
it's probably the weakest album pre-Kilroy.........but having said that it's still a great album. :D

Re: Cornerstone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:37 pm
by DeeJaySTYX
Ash wrote:
DeeJaySTYX wrote:I don't get it...If you hate Ted Kennedy, Why would you like "Eddie" that much more???


The song Eddie was written about Teddy Kennedy and his possible run for president in 1980.

Eddie now don't you run
You know you're a bootlegger's son
and you saw just what it's done
to the others

Eddie now don't you run
it's the end of all your fun
and you saw just what they've done
to your brothers


Yes, but this song is also pointing out while running for president or even becoming president that he would take the chance of suffering the same fate as his brothers and other presidents....

Can We Ignore The Basic Facts Of History
Or Deny What People Say Is Destiny
I Think The Message Is Ever So Loud And Clear....

DeeJay....