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What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:03 am

Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:16 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't played Criminal Mind for some time other than casino rama.
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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby Guest » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:21 am

gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


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Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:32 am

styxfanNH wrote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't played Criminal Mind for some time other than casino rama.

You are probably right,but this is an alternate world.
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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:33 am

ItsMyLife wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


What if pigs flew out of my butt?


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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby froy » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:05 am

gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


No it would not anything by Larry Gowan should be banned from the STYX name
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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:22 am

froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


No it would not anything by Larry Gowan should be banned from the STYX name


OK,then.
You missed a question.What if Dennis had written 2 songs called'Home of the brave'+'More love for the money' as they are on Cyclorama,would that be acceptable classic Styx :?: :?: :?:
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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby froy » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:31 am

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quote="gr8dane"]
froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


No it would not anything by Larry Gowan should be banned from the STYX name


OK,then.
You missed a question.What if Dennis had written 2 songs called'Home of the brave'+'More love for the money' as they are on Cyclorama,would that be acceptable classic Styx :?: :?: :?:
[/quote]

How can anyone answer that ?
Thats like saying what if Tommy did a 10 on Broadway cd how many would like it?
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Re: What if...alternate world part 2.

Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:50 am

froy wrote:[
quote="gr8dane"]
froy wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Styx is still classic Styx.
Styx has been out of the picture since 'Return to paradise',when it all fell apart.
Styx has landed a 1 cd deal,and has released 'Cyclorama'.Tommy and JY has written the whole album but 2 tracks.Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave'
Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???
Also, live they now got 2 cover songs on the setlist,'I am a walrus' and a song called 'Criminal mind ' by an unknown Canadian artist called Garry Lowan.
Would this be acceptable for the classic Styx fan out there???


No it would not anything by Larry Gowan should be banned from the STYX name


OK,then.
You missed a question.What if Dennis had written 2 songs called'Home of the brave'+'More love for the money' as they are on Cyclorama,would that be acceptable classic Styx :?: :?: :?:


How can anyone answer that ?
Thats like saying what if Tommy did a 10 on Broadway cd how many would like it?[/quote]

No it's easy.Listen to the 2 songs,replace Gowans vocals with Dennis'.Good or bad. :?: :?:
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Postby classicstyxfan » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:23 am

Quote: What if pigs flew out of my butt?

Reply Quote: Then you would have a big hole where your a**hole used to be.Yoinks

Classic Says: I was gonna suggest a whole lot of Preparation H !!!



Quote: No it's easy.Listen to the 2 songs,replace Gowans vocals with Dennis'.Good or bad.

Classic Says: It may be easy for you.......



Quote: Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave' Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???

Classic says: No, but it would be the worst case of Writers Block DDY ever had ! :wink:
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:27 am

classicstyxfan wrote:Quote: What if pigs flew out of my butt?

Reply Quote: Then you would have a big hole where your a**hole used to be.Yoinks

Classic Says: I was gonna suggest a whole lot of Preparation H !!!



Quote: No it's easy.Listen to the 2 songs,replace Gowans vocals with Dennis'.Good or bad.

Classic Says: It may be easy for you.......



Quote: Due to writers block Dennis only wrote 2 songs 'More love for the money' and 'Home of the brave' Would this be an aceptable album for the classic Styx fan out there???

Classic says: No, but it would be the worst case of Writers Block DDY ever had ! :wink:


It was.I used my imagination.
But now I am curious as to what froy would say !!!!
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:53 am

Regardless of what others say,

If Cyclorama was a Classic Styx release, those that boycot that album would accept it with open arms.

If you bought BNW then you would buy this one too. Writers block or no Writers Block. If for no other reason it would have been the first music released since BNW.
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Postby froy » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:16 pm

styxfanNH wrote:Regardless of what others say,

If Cyclorama was a Classic Styx release, those that boycot that album would accept it with open arms.

If you bought BNW then you would buy this one too. Writers block or no Writers Block. If for no other reason it would have been the first music released since BNW.


I disagree Im a classic Styx fan and I think BNW stinks
Cycloramit stinks also
Bang will suck as well/
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Postby onestilllearning » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:07 pm

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Regardless of what others say,

If Cyclorama was a Classic Styx release, those that boycot that album would accept it with open arms.

If you bought BNW then you would buy this one too. Writers block or no Writers Block. If for no other reason it would have been the first music released since BNW.



I disagree Im a classic Styx fan and I think BNW stinks
Cycloramit stinks also
Bang will suck as well/

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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:23 pm

Then I guess if you wouldn't buy it then you never buy any album until you hear it a dozen times after someone else buys it. Other than the original single release, most people buy it before they hear an album in its entirety.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:50 pm

Well obvious we can't go back in time and have anything changed. If Dennis is/was part of any album/cd of course I'd buy it. Even if everyone hated the album/cd/songs. I like Brave New World. When I'm working on the computer I'll listen to a cd sometimes 4 times in a row, the songs really grow on you.

You guys need to be nicer in your posts on here. I feel like I'm in high school. :roll:
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Postby Zan » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:02 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Well obvious we can't go back in time and have anything changed. If Dennis is/was part of any album/cd of course I'd buy it. Even if everyone hated the album/cd/songs. I like Brave New World. When I'm working on the computer I'll listen to a cd sometimes 4 times in a row, the songs really grow on you.

You guys need to be nicer in your posts on here. I feel like I'm in high school. :roll:



I agree with both paragraphs! haha! (Have I told you how attractive looking you are today, Suite?) ;-)
MOST Styx music for me has taken getting used to before I fall in love with it. It's been that way since the first album I've ever owned. I just don't see the big deal.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:13 pm

Zan says:

I agree with both paragraphs! haha! (Have I told you how attractive looking you are today, Suite?)
MOST Styx music for me has taken getting used to before I fall in love with it. It's been that way since the first album I've ever owned. I just don't see the big deal.


Why thank you :) LOL I guess you like my Lunch Lady attire for the day, very attractive.

It's been the same with me too, since the first album I ever owned too. It just takes a little time and I fall in love with the music. Then I try to figure out the words - LOL It took me years to figure out what the song "Light Up" was about, sheesh (of course someone had to tell me). Then I recently find out about "The Serpent is Rising" and what that could be about, sheesh, how old is that album. :oops:
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Postby Adam » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:50 am

I think gr8dane deserves an award for showing an amazing amount of generous patience on this topic. Hats off, buddy!
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Postby gr8dane » Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:27 am

Adam wrote:I think gr8dane deserves an award for showing an amazing amount of generous patience on this topic. Hats off, buddy!


Thank you Adam,let me put my hat on.All the best.
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Postby ek88 » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:09 pm

gr8:

I prefer Cyclorama to Brave New World and would feel that way even if one could somehow interchange Dennis and Larry's respective vocals on the two albums. I simply like the music better and although I prefer Dennis' vocals, we're only talking about 2 tracks on Cyclorama that Larry sings on, after all.

And I'm not sure about this one, but I thought I read somewhere that Larry wrote the majority of One With Everything. If that's the case, that song blows away anything DDY has written since Pieces Of Eight (and I stress that is in my opinion, it's not meant as a slam to those who appreciate DDY's current songwriting).
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Postby Guest » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:26 pm

ek88 wrote: If that's the case, that song blows away anything DDY has written since Pieces Of Eight (and I stress that is in my opinion, it's not meant as a slam to those who appreciate DDY's current songwriting).


Hahaha... stay off the heavy drugs dude.
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Postby Zan » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:29 pm

ItsMyLife wrote:Hahaha... stay off the heavy drugs dude.



Says the innocent victim.
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Postby Guest » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:30 pm

Zan wrote:
ItsMyLife wrote:Hahaha... stay off the heavy drugs dude.



Says the innocent victim.


Lick it up... lick it up... oh oh oh...
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:47 pm

One With Everything was written by Tommy. It was written as a letter to his daughter .
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Postby Adam » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:21 pm

"One With Everything was written by Tommy. It was written as a letter to his daughter."

I beg to differ, It was written by all of them. It was a collaboration.
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:02 pm

OK Adam, lets play the semantics game.

The one who sang the song is the one who brought it to the band to be included on the cd. While they all had a hand in its creation musically, the overall presentation was brought by Tommy as were the lyrics.

The same can be said of all the songson Cyclorama. The lead singer brought the overall song to the band, and the others had a hand in developing the sound to the song and orchestrating their part on what is presented to the public.
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Postby Adam » Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:14 pm

No confrontation or semantic argument intended, styfan! I just thought I'd mention what I'd read, based on an interview with Glenn that someone here once pointed out to me. I just looked it up and you can read it at http://www.getreadytorock.com/10questio ... rtnik2.htm

He was asked: What were the highlight(s) of `Cyclorama' and the subsequent tour?

Burtnik: I enjoyed the collaboration of writing "One With Everything". THAT is the one true 5 way collaboration on that album - and I think it came out great. Lawrence's keyboard riffs, Todd's arranging, Tommy's lyrics, my chorus, JY's bass lines mixed together with Lawrence's playing, Todd's performance, Tommy's melodies, my retarding the end idea, and JY's attention to production detail - there was a nice cooperative mission that worked on that one. That's perhaps the closest I've been to a Yes-like compositional environment.

As for the tour, I got my ya-yas out running through huge arenas while performing my "Kiss Your Ass Goodbye". How fitting, now that I think of it!
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Postby styxfanNH » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:46 am

OK, let's do the Adam Recap

StyxfanNH said:

One With Everything was written by Tommy. It was written as a letter to his daughter .


Adam said:

beg to differ, It was written by all of them. It was a collaboration.


StyxfanNH said:

The one who sang the song is the one who brought it to the band to be included on the cd. While they all had a hand in its creation musically, the overall presentation was brought by Tommy as were the lyrics.


Adam said:
No confrontation or semantic argument intended, styfan! I just thought I'd mention what I'd read, based on an interview with Glenn that someone here once pointed out to me. I just looked it up and you can read it at http://www.getreadytorock.com/10questio ... rtnik2.htm

He was asked: What were the highlight(s) of `Cyclorama' and the subsequent tour?

Burtnik: I enjoyed the collaboration of writing "One With Everything". THAT is the one true 5 way collaboration on that album - and I think it came out great. Lawrence's keyboard riffs, Todd's arranging, Tommy's lyrics, my chorus, JY's bass lines mixed together with Lawrence's playing, Todd's performance, Tommy's melodies, my retarding the end idea, and JY's attention to production detail - there was a nice cooperative mission that worked on that one. That's perhaps the closest I've been to a Yes-like compositional environment.


StyxfanNH said:

The one who sang the song is the one who brought it to the band to be included on the cd. While they all had a hand in its creation musically, the overall presentation was brought by Tommy as were the lyrics.

The same can be said of all the songson Cyclorama. The lead singer brought the overall song to the band, and the others had a hand in developing the sound to the song and orchestrating their part on what is presented to the public.


Like I and Glen said, Tommy wrote the lyrics.
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Postby Adam » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:20 am

Are we arguing?

I stand by my statement. When you wrote "One With Everything was written by Tommy" I say that is inaccurate. That's all. I am not trying to "get into" anything with you here, just stating a fact.

Unless you define the writing of a song to be Lyriucs only (in which case I'd think Richard Rogers, George Gershwin and Elton John might give you a big argument there)
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