MR

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:25 am**

Since were on the topic of articles posted. Did everyone get a chance to read the April 2005 issue of Classic Rock Magazine?

Interesting about "Fooling Yourself".

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:30 am**

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Since were on the topic of articles posted. Did everyone get a chance to read the April 2005 issue of Classic Rock Magazine?

Interesting about "Fooling Yourself".

Can you tell us what it was my friend from Milwaukee
BTW are you going to see Neil Diamond in August ?
Im there tix presale tommorow.
If you want the password email me

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:46 am**

I wish I could find a link, it's about 5 pages long. The article is suppose to be about the making of the Grand Illusion. But also the article is promoting the current line-up coming to England and their still bitchin' and complaining about Dennis and his direction of music. blah blah blah

Here's the "Fooling Yourself" part - I'm sure everyone on the board already knew what the song is really about - LOL

I'm terrible with typing, please bare with me

Another energetic keyboard flurry introduces Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man). An enigmatic track instigated by Tommy Shaw but with contributions from Young and DeYoung, it begins with the couplet: 'You see the world through your cynical eyes/You're a troubled young man I can tell'.

"Dennis had a new synthesiser toy", Shaw chuckles, explaining the intro. "In a way, that song was from me to Dennis. The seeds of discontent had started to take over the road. The rest of us were all really happy at the time, but Dennis wasn't quite the same joy. I was trying to tell him there was all this great stuff going on, and to enjoy it more. It was frustrating to see somebody so talented and loved, but not getting more out of the experience. Whether or not he understood, I don't know; it was very subtle."

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:51 am**

Froy, I don't know about Neil Diamond yet. We have vacation plans in August, I'll have to check with the Boss - LOL

Thanks for the info

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:03 am**

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
"Dennis had a new synthesiser toy", Shaw chuckles, explaining the intro. "In a way, that song was from me to Dennis. The seeds of discontent had started to take over the road. The rest of us were all really happy at the time, but Dennis wasn't quite the same joy. I was trying to tell him there was all this great stuff going on, and to enjoy it more. It was frustrating to see somebody so talented and loved, but not getting more out of the experience. Whether or not he understood, I don't know; it was very subtle."[/b]

Hey Tommy... STFU.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:04 am**

Tommy and JY should write a song called "Biting The Hand That Feeds You".

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:25 am**

Here's the "Fooling Yourself" part - I'm sure everyone on the board already knew what the song is really about - LOL

I'd heard this once before, several years ago, (the whole Tommy referring to Dennis thing). Anybody else?

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:00 am**

I remember reading this before that the song was about Dennis. It makes a lot of sense. Dennis was a well-known perfectionist and I think it is ironic that it is he who says at the beginning of this song: "Relax. Take it easy."

This song also shows off DDY's amazing keyboarding skills on his "new toy" in this song.

Bugsy

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:05 am**

Suite's going on Vacation in August with ( the boss ) Bruce Springsteen ? :shock:

And on The LP The Grand Illusion, Fooling yourself was about Dennis, and Come Sail Away was really written by Tommy, with a working title of " Ain't getting down"

I've got this all straight, right ? :roll:

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:58 pm**

Classic - LOL :lol:

You have most of it straight, except that I'm not going on vacation with Bruce - LOL I like to call my husband "the boss" sometimes, but he knows that I'm really the boss in our family - JUST KIDDING. (He likes to read the posts on the board)

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:31 pm**

Dennis needs to play the keys like that again. Somthing that has been missed._ERIC

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:06 pm**

Dennis needs to play the keys like that again. Somthing that has been missed._ERIC

He sure plays the keys a lot with the Lost Treasures show. Several people who have gone to that concert have remarked about his powerful work during the break in "Pieces of Eight."

Bugsy

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:30 am**

Abitaman wrote:Dennis needs to play the keys like that again. Somthing that has been missed._ERIC

I've noticed in the last 3 concerts I've attended that he has been working the keys much more. As Bugsy said, it was most apparent on Pieces of Eight.

I think Dennis doesn't view himself with having as much keyboard talent as his fans do. Just my opinion of course.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:14 am**

Hey Mr. Bad Medicine,

What in the hell did Tommy say that was soooo offensive in explaining the lyrics in Fooling Yourself?? If thats what the song was about GREAT!! I'm glad to know that.

Dennis himself said how much he missed his family when they started touring to support The Grand Illusion. He said he was misrable. Once his wife and daughter started goin with him he was better.

The part Suite reported was no slam at all. You all are SOOOOOOO damn 'DeYoung Sensitive' its actually funny. Damn if someone really said something offensive to you I bet you would cry for a month.

I just decided to look up 'DeYoung Sensitive' in my Webster Dictionary. Here is what it said: A paranoid and delusional state characterized by an insecurity that everyone is out to get Dennis. In its final stages this fixation manifests itself by starting petitions and a clinging to shitt y Bon Jovi songs.

Suite- Id sure like to read this article. Where did you see it, or find it??

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:22 am**

yogi wrote:Hey Mr. Bad Medicine,

What in the hell did Tommy say that was soooo offensive in explaining the lyrics in Fooling Yourself?? If thats what the song was about GREAT!! I'm glad to know that.

In the article, that's one of the few things said which shouldn't be construed as a "slam" at Dennis". And, it isn't exactly new news that the song was written about Dennis. I agree, totally right for the time period.

Dennis himself said how much he missed his family when they started touring to support The Grand Illusion. He said he was misrable. Once his wife and daughter started goin with him he was better.

Yep, so they went on the road. And with that came good and bad.

Suite- Id sure like to read this article. Where did you see it, or find it??

I'm not Suite, but I found it at Barnes and Noble. Hope that helps.

Peace

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2005 9:59 am**

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I wish I could find a link, it's about 5 pages long. The article is suppose to be about the making of the Grand Illusion. But also the article is promoting the current line-up coming to England and their still bitchin' and complaining about Dennis and his direction of music. blah blah blah

Here's the "Fooling Yourself" part - I'm sure everyone on the board already knew what the song is really about - LOL

I'm terrible with typing, please bare with me

Another energetic keyboard flurry introduces Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man). An enigmatic track instigated by Tommy Shaw but with contributions from Young and DeYoung, it begins with the couplet: 'You see the world through your cynical eyes/You're a troubled young man I can tell'.

"Dennis had a new synthesiser toy", Shaw chuckles, explaining the intro. "In a way, that song was from me to Dennis. The seeds of discontent had started to take over the road. The rest of us were all really happy at the time, but Dennis wasn't quite the same joy. I was trying to tell him there was all this great stuff going on, and to enjoy it more. It was frustrating to see somebody so talented and loved, but not getting more out of the experience. Whether or not he understood, I don't know; it was very subtle."

Hi Suite.
Just found this,after scrolling.
Frankly,there is not any bitching anywhere.The only time anything gets a bit out of line is when JY says his bit about their arch being taller or whatever.
The whole article is pretty loose and probably the way i would imagine things as they were .
The article would be interesting for the person who may have followed Styx for 2 or 3 albums while liking at least 20 bands more than them.

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2005 11:13 am**

gr8dane wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I wish I could find a link, it's about 5 pages long. The article is suppose to be about the making of the Grand Illusion. But also the article is promoting the current line-up coming to England and their still bitchin' and complaining about Dennis and his direction of music. blah blah blah

Here's the "Fooling Yourself" part - I'm sure everyone on the board already knew what the song is really about - LOL

I'm terrible with typing, please bare with me

Another energetic keyboard flurry introduces Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man). An enigmatic track instigated by Tommy Shaw but with contributions from Young and DeYoung, it begins with the couplet: 'You see the world through your cynical eyes/You're a troubled young man I can tell'.

Well I disagree with you g8, but again, I think that comes from different perspectives. I found it to be very disrespective, and I'll leave it at that.

"Dennis had a new synthesiser toy", Shaw chuckles, explaining the intro. "In a way, that song was from me to Dennis. The seeds of discontent had started to take over the road. The rest of us were all really happy at the time, but Dennis wasn't quite the same joy. I was trying to tell him there was all this great stuff going on, and to enjoy it more. It was frustrating to see somebody so talented and loved, but not getting more out of the experience. Whether or not he understood, I don't know; it was very subtle."

Hi Suite.
Just found this,after scrolling.
Frankly,there is not any bitching anywhere.The only time anything gets a bit out of line is when JY says his bit about their arch being taller or whatever.
The whole article is pretty loose and probably the way i would imagine things as they were .
The article would be interesting for the person who may have followed Styx for 2 or 3 albums while liking at least 20 bands more than them.

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2005 11:35 am**

sadie65 wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I wish I could find a link, it's about 5 pages long. The article is suppose to be about the making of the Grand Illusion. But also the article is promoting the current line-up coming to England and their still bitchin' and complaining about Dennis and his direction of music. blah blah blah

Here's the "Fooling Yourself" part - I'm sure everyone on the board already knew what the song is really about - LOL

I'm terrible with typing, please bare with me

Another energetic keyboard flurry introduces Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man). An enigmatic track instigated by Tommy Shaw but with contributions from Young and DeYoung, it begins with the couplet: 'You see the world through your cynical eyes/You're a troubled young man I can tell'.

Well I disagree with you g8, but again, I think that comes from different perspectives. I found it to be very disrespective, and I'll leave it at that.

"Dennis had a new synthesiser toy", Shaw chuckles, explaining the intro. "In a way, that song was from me to Dennis. The seeds of discontent had started to take over the road. The rest of us were all really happy at the time, but Dennis wasn't quite the same joy. I was trying to tell him there was all this great stuff going on, and to enjoy it more. It was frustrating to see somebody so talented and loved, but not getting more out of the experience. Whether or not he understood, I don't know; it was very subtle."

Hi Suite.
Just found this,after scrolling.
Frankly,there is not any bitching anywhere.The only time anything gets a bit out of line is when JY says his bit about their arch being taller or whatever.
The whole article is pretty loose and probably the way i would imagine things as they were .
The article would be interesting for the person who may have followed Styx for 2 or 3 albums while liking at least 20 bands more than them.

Fair enough.I've seen worse.

MR

Classic Rock Magazine - April 2005

Classic Rock Magazine - April 2005

Re: Classic Rock Magazine - April 2005