MR

I just got in from a gig downtown and I listened
to Edge all the way through and let me tell ya this cd rocks
In The World Tonight is a smoker
Love Is The Ritual is on fire
Love at First Sight is a fantastic ballad
Back To Chicago is another killer tune.
Edge of The Century is great just doesn't end right
Show Me The Way beautiful
How can anyone say that Dennis did not Rock on this cd.
It may not have been Styx back then but it sure sounds like them now
I will tell ya If Dennis Glen and Chuck got together that would be Styx my friends nobody could argue that.
I wonder did John Pannazzo play drums on this entire cd when its not a drum machine?
If so he was at his best on In The World Tonight,

Thoughts?

froy wrote:I will tell ya If Dennis Glen and Chuck got together that would be Styx my friends nobody could argue that.
Thoughts?

Yeah - "nobody." If only "Styx" was Glen, Dennis, and Chuck, none of these silly arguments would be taking place. LOL

Froy,

Edge was an AWESOME CD!!! I like EVERY song on it. The tour was also GREAT!! They played over half the new CD when I saw them. Dennis let Glen be Glen way way moooore than Tommy ever did. Glen sang lead in half the songs on the tour, and on the CD. Glen is Tommy's equal plus some in my opinion. As for John P. they played World Tonight in Minneapolis and he and it smoked.

I have pushed this a bunch, but if you really want to get a smokin CD go purchase Welcome To Hollywood.

Edge was better than the CD it followed, that's for sure.......I give it more spins than Brave new World too....

At the time it came out I dismissed it, as LITR didnt have the Styx sound, and that was the single they were promoting. I learned to like the 1st 6 cuts in about the mid 90's, after picking it up in a used CD store.

Glen is very talented, no question about that, not sure I rate him superior to Tommy though. No Burtnik Bathwater required here.

Say, that reminds me......my Shipment of DeYoung bathwater is overdue....I hope he's still bathing daily !

"These argument wouldn't happen"

Right, sure!

Only if they were added to the current styx line-up, otherwise you'd have those "It aint styx without Tommy or JY or even Larry" debates.

There would even be those who would argue that Dennis is going to broadway the band again. Yadda yadda yadda.

Given this braintrust around here, I'm certain we couldnt agree to disagree.

Have a great father's day,

Scott

I really like the Edge of the Century CD. Some good rockers on here -- In the World Tonight is a terrific song and the keyboard/guitar break in Homewrecker just makes that song to me.

To me, every single Styx album sounds "different" from the one before and the one after. They had one thing in common, though -- a cohesiveness to the overall sound of the work that finally broke down, when the band did, on Brave New World.

Bugsy

They had one thing in common, though -- a cohesiveness to the overall sound of the work that finally broke down, when the band did, on Brave New World.

Bugsy

I have never understood why everyone (including DDY) says this about BNW . I am aware of the disconnect that was going on in the production of the alblum, how Shaw and JY recorded thier material apart from DDY and how it was not produced by DDY but to me it was a better album than Edge and sounds like a Styx album.

yogi wrote:Froy,

Edge was an AWESOME CD!!! I like EVERY song on it. The tour was also GREAT!! They played over half the new CD when I saw them. Dennis let Glen be Glen way way moooore than Tommy ever did. Glen sang lead in half the songs on the tour, and on the CD. Glen is Tommy's equal plus some in my opinion. As for John P. they played World Tonight in Minneapolis and he and it smoked.

It makes me wonder how JY could say that around the EDGE period it was all Dennis
It was his way or no way
Well look at the cd it more than half Glen
How could it be Dennis 's way when it was really Glens way
The production on this cd is simply brilliant.

I have never understood why everyone (including DDY) says this about BNW . I am aware of the disconnect that was going on in the production of the alblum, how Shaw and JY recorded thier material apart from DDY and how it was not produced by DDY but to me it was a better album than Edge and sounds like a Styx album.

I actually like this album myself. But when I listened to it the very first time, I immediately said to myself, "Self, there are some good songs, but sounds like two different albums to me. What do you think?" Self, agreed.

I cannot even begin to describe what, to me, makes most of the Styx albums sound more like a unit than BNW. I guess it is a subtlety that some hear and some don't. And maybe it is just me. I am NOT going to the "DDY produced " aspect of any of this. That is just asking for trouble. Just suffice it to say that something was missing on BNW that was very much there on most of the Classic Styx albums.

Bugsy

I am aware of the disconnect that was going on in the production of the alblum, how Shaw and JY recorded thier material apart from DDY and how it was not produced by DDY but to me it was a better album than Edge and sounds like a Styx album

Just listen to the production of EDGE it jumps out at you
BNW is a awefull production very low budget. IMO

Gotta agree Edge has really grown on me the past few years, didn't care much for it when it was released (apart from the DDY stuff). Cant side with yogi on the Glen better than Tommy comment though, but the 2 of them together on the same stage was awsome. Just ripped every Styx cd to my ipod, so been listening to everything Styx at work all day, even BNW is begining to grow on me , almost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldnt it be great if Dennis could discover another Hard Rockin' talent like Glen, just might bring out the "old Dennis" WE ALL love

I think his (DDY) guitar player Tommy rocks out pretty good with his guitar. Just my opinion

I won't get into the producing debate either on the Styx albums. Been there before.

Edge is a solid album. I think it's very much in line with the band in any form. Each successive album tried to go with the sound of the day.

Stepping away from the other part of the post....

Just listen to the production of EDGE it jumps out at you
BNW is a awefull production very low budget. IMO

Froy, or anyone please educate me on "production" is it how the music is mixed? Is it the order of the songs and the artwork? After I get a few answers I am going to listen to each album again.

I will grant you that the BNW contains the worst Styx song of all time "Hip Hop -cricy"

I think on most of the Styx albums, where a single approach was taken, you have more of a flow, song to song. You also have a consistency of sound from the whole mix. The "balance" if you will between voice, lead instruments, keyboards and the VERY important rhythm of bass and drums.

To me, Brave New World sounded like two different approaches in mixing and producing the songs and I think it shows in the final product.

I think song placement fits into it as well. Artwork is just incidental.

When I listen to Styx albums, I find a consistency with Styx II and then Equinox through Edge. Whether anyone thinks the songs are bad or good is beside the point. These works sound like ALBUMS and not collections of songs.

My .06.

Bugsy

onestilllearning wrote:Just listen to the production of EDGE it jumps out at you
BNW is a awefull production very low budget. IMO

Froy, or anyone please educate me on "production" is it how the music is mixed? Is it the order of the songs and the artwork? After I get a few answers I am going to listen to each album again.

I will grant you that the BNW contains the worst Styx song of all time "Hip Hop -cricy"

To me production means the quality of the sound thats comming from the disc
Edge is mixed hot kick ass drums and bass lines
All players are heard when they are supposed to be heard.
Dennis produced EDGE extremely well.
When I heard this on my Mark Lewison system in my car I was floored
I was driving all over the neighborhood because I could not stop listening.
BTW what happened to THE BIG BANG Im mean seriously it is gone
What happened?

I just came back from Houston. I had to take my father to the airport.
Anyway, A couple of years back I purchased a 2 on 1 CD off of E-bay. It has Equinox and Edge Of the Century back to back on a single disc.

On the way back I was by myself and I cranked the volume WAAAAYYY WAAAYYY up. After listening to these two MASTERPIECES back to back the ONLY thought that came to me was ....................Tommy WHO!!!!!!!

This is NOT to cause an argument. Just my opinion!!!

Happy Fathers Day!!!!!!!

I liked the cd a lot, and still play it from time to time. All In a Day's Work I didn't care for, and Homewrecker, was just like about everother JY song of the period, but it did have a smoken keybaord solo in it. When I saaw the tour live, Glen did a great job. Place was packed (Mud Island in Memphis, TN) and even thou it rained some, we still go a great full show.-ERIC

Lots to respond to in this topic . . .

In The World Tonight is a smoker
Love Is The Ritual is on fire
Love at First Sight is a fantastic ballad
Back To Chicago is another killer tune.
Edge of The Century is great just doesn't end right
Show Me The Way beautiful

I agree with you on Love Is The Ritual and Love At First Sight and that's about it. I didn't mind Homewrecker, either.

Probably in the minority here, but I like Brave New World better than Edge Of The Century.

Until Cyclorama, I thought Paradise Theatre was the last cohesive sounding Styx album. Just my opinion, certainly not fact.

As far as production, I've never given it much thought, probably because I have no idea what producing an album involves.

As far as the Tommy vs. Glen thing, I'd have to go with Tommy. Speaking of Glen, I liked his Cyclorama cuts MUCH more than his Edge Of The Century songs.

That's all I have to say about that. (southern drawl)

Eric says:

All In a Day's Work I didn't care for

Gasp!! I LOVE THAT SONG!! Great, great, great song

Eric,

I agree with you. I prefer BNW over EOTC but they both sound different than other Styx albums. Cyclrama has more of the Styx sound to it.

Froy, you're an idiot.

You do nothing but contradict yourself.

ek88 wrote:I agree with you on Love Is The Ritual and Love At First Sight and that's about it. I didn't mind Homewrecker, either.

"Love Is The Ritual" is pure garbage. Burtnik blows.

ek88 wrote:Probably in the minority here, but I like Brave New World better than Edge Of The Century.

Not at all... EOTC is way too much Burtnik (i.e. any), however it does at least have two classic Dennis songs on it.

ek88 wrote:Until Cyclorama, I thought Paradise Theatre was the last cohesive sounding Styx album. Just my opinion, certainly not fact.

Lay off the crack pipe.

ItsMyLife wrote:Froy, you're an idiot.

You do nothing but contradict yourself.

What are you blabin about ?
Which part of my post is contradicting?

froy wrote:

ItsMyLife wrote:Froy, you're an idiot.

You do nothing but contradict yourself.

What are you blabin about ?
Which part of my post is contradicting?

Your IQ is lower than my shoe size.

Your IQ is lower than my shoe size.

Wow! You wear a size 180 shoe???

I thought we were done insulting each other over here.

Seems I was wrong.

Bugsy

"Love Is The Ritual" is pure garbage. Burtnik blows.

Wow. Now that you've said so, I'll be sure never to listen to LITR again, or any other Glen songs, for that matter.

Lay off the crack pipe.

I like to keep it around for when I throw in Kilroy Was Here

bugsymalone wrote:I thought we were done insulting each other over here.

"We" were.

I like to keep it around for when I throw in Kilroy Was Here

BTW, just having fun here in response to IML's Cyclo remark. No offense meant to Kilroy fans!