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Desert Moon review.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:44 pm
by gr8dane
Found this and thought you wanna read it ,unless you already have ofcourse.
www.rock-is-life.com
check flasback review section.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:35 pm
by sadie65
Yes, I've seen this before. A very nice read. Thanks.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:50 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
Hi gr8dane :)

No, I haven't seen this link before. Thanks for sharing :)

In my free time (LOL) I'll transcribe what Dennis had to say about writing the song "Desert Moon". I know for years I thought the song was about taking the train from the Chicago area to the Indiana Dunes, that a lot of Illinois people took for their vacations years and years ago. But it wasn't LOL After talking to Dennis and listening to interviews, a lot of his songs were written completely different from what I thought they were about.

This goes for a lot of songs from different groups and artists about songwriting.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:54 pm
by evileyes
Very nice review & site! I don't know how old it is, but I dropped him a note of appreciation.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:57 pm
by jrnyman28
http://www.rock-is-life.com/flashbackreviews/desertmoon.htm

Ya know, Dennis DeYoung, Steve Perry and Mickey Thomas were the three male vocalist I grew up absolutely loving. Styx and Journey were THE bands that I loved. But somehow, I NEVER bought any of Dennis' or Tommy's solo work. Always wanted to. Always liked what I heard. I honestly do not know why I didn't get their stuff.

But I like this review, loved "Desert Moon" and the reviewer is spot on about DDY's performance on the title track!!

Thank you.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:03 am
by evileyes
Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:09 am
by jrnyman28
evileyes wrote:Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!


Since it has been a while, what are the Titles of the other two CDs?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:16 am
by sadie65
jrnyman28 wrote:
evileyes wrote:Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!


Since it has been a while, what are the Titles of the other two CDs?


They are Back to the World and Boomchild. They are very good cd's. I'd also recommend getting at least one of Tommy Shaw's solo cd's. Me personally, JY's work as a solo....not so hot. But that is just my opinion.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:17 am
by sadie65
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Hi gr8dane :)

No, I haven't seen this link before. Thanks for sharing :)

In my free time (LOL) I'll transcribe what Dennis had to say about writing the song "Desert Moon". I know for years I thought the song was about taking the train from the Chicago area to the Indiana Dunes, that a lot of Illinois people took for their vacations years and years ago. But it wasn't LOL After talking to Dennis and listening to interviews, a lot of his songs were written completely different from what I thought they were about.

This goes for a lot of songs from different groups and artists about songwriting.


Thwack. I'll overlook the memory glitch :lol:

And isn't that a good thing that an artist can write a song that we all interpret differently. I know the Desert Moon story, and personally, I like the final outcome better than the original idea.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:20 am
by Hippie
evileyes wrote:Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!


I count 4 studio albums:

Desert Moon: 1984
Back To The World: 1986
Boomchild: 1988
10 On Broadway: 1994


Not sure which is my fav. All four have aspects that distinguish them.
If pressed, I'd probably have to say Back to the World or Boomchild .

All 4 are great!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:23 am
by jrnyman28
Not sure I will do the Broadway one, but I will keep an eye out for the others.

I honestly NEVER knew that JY had any solo CDs. but I always enjoyed what I heard from Tommy.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:25 am
by sadie65
Hippie wrote:
evileyes wrote:Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!


I count 4 studio albums:

Desert Moon: 1984
Back To The World: 1986
Boomchild: 1988
10 On Broadway: 1994


Not sure which is my fav. All four have aspects that distinguish them.
If pressed, I'd probably have to say Back to the World or Boomchild .

All 4 are great!


Well you could also include Hunchback and his double live. All are great. And we won't even go into the guest spots he's done (though I think Tommy has him beat hands down on that one).

My personal favorite is Boomchild.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:29 am
by Hippie
Me personally, JY's work as a solo....not so hot. But that is just my opinion.


Production was somewhat rough on JY's solos, but they're not without their charm.

Raised by Wolves was pretty good IMO. Very polished. I'd actually love to hear Styx do a couple of these song live! Namely, "Into the Fire".

Out on a Day Pass was very rough, but to me, had a definite Wooden Nickel Styx sound to it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:32 am
by sadie65
Hippie wrote:
Me personally, JY's work as a solo....not so hot. But that is just my opinion.


Production was somewhat rough on JY's solos, but they're not without their charm.

Raised by Wolves was pretty good IMO. Very polished. I'd actually love to hear Styx do a couple of these song live! Namely, "Into the Fire".

Out on a Day Pass was very rough, but to me, had a definite Wooden Nickel Styx sound to it.


Well for me, the only JY cd that I like is Raised by Wolves...and I think that it's just personal preference. Out on a Day Pass...well for me...I have it, but it doesn't get played at all anymore.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:34 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Don't forget James Young / Jan Hammer's City Slicker (1985)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:36 am
by sadie65
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Don't forget James Young / Jan Hammer's City Slicker (1985)


Why? Just kidding.

Nor have we touched on any of Glen's material. Yogi and Zan will have our heads.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:50 am
by jrnyman28
I have one of Glen's. I got it shortly after Edge Of The Century. Not bad.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:30 am
by Hippie
Well for me, the only JY cd that I like is Raised by Wolves...and I think that it's just personal preference. Out on a Day Pass...well for me...I have it, but it doesn't get played at all anymore.
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Sadie


Day Pass has many a rough spots on it to be sure. Oddly enough, that's kinda why I like it. Along with its rough edges, it also has a very raw sound that I find somewhat refreshing. Wolves and City Slicker are it's opposite.

Nor have we touched on any of Glen's material. Yogi and Zan will have our heads.


I actually only have Heroes and Zeroes from Burtnik. I gave it a couple of spins when I got it and then forgot about it. I need to delve back into it. I'm a much bigger Burtnik fan now.

Two songs that stood out for me: "I'll Follow You" and "Walls Come Down"

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:38 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Here's Tommy's solo work and other projects:
Solo:

1985 : GIRLS WITH GUNS - A&M Records
1985 : LIVE IN JAPAN - A&M Records (Released in Japan only)
1986 : WHAT IF - A&M Records
1987 : AMBITION - Atlantic Records (Out of print)
1998 : 7DEADLY ZENS - CMC International

With DAMN YANKEES:

1990 : DAMN YANKEES - Warner Bros.
1991 : DON'T TREAD - Warner Bros.
2002: THE ESSENTIALS - Warner Bros. (Buy it here)

Other projects:

1995 : HALLUCINATION - Shaw/Blades - Warner Bros. (Out of print)
1999 : BRITISH ROCK SYMPHONY
1999 : NOT THE SAME SONG AND DANCE
2001 : STONE COLD QUEEN
2002 : PIGS AND PYRAMIDS
2002 : A CLASSIC ROCK CHRISTMAS
I'M NOT GONNA LET MY BLUES BRING ME DOWN - Brad Davis
(Guest appearance - Buy it here)
WONDERFUL NOTHING - Familiar 48
(Guest appearance - Buy it here)
2003: WIND - Warren Zevon
(Guest appearance)
2004: SPIN THE BOTTLE

Here are Glen's solo and projects:

Hammer (s/t)
1979 Elektra/Asylum

Helmet Boy (s/t)
1980 Elektra/Asylum

Schon/Hammer - Here To Stay
1982 Columbia

J.A.M - Jersey Artists for Mankind
1986 Arista


Glen Burtnick - Talking In Code
1986 A&M



Glen Burtnick - Heroes and Zeros
1987 A&M


Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (soundtrack)
1989 A&M

Slaves Of New Brunswick (s/t)
1991 Westwood

Glen Burtnik - A Live Christmas Extravaganza
1994 Deko

Marshall Crenshaw Live - My Truck Is My Home
1994 Razor & Tie

Glen Burtnick - Palookaville
1996 Deko


Glen Burtnick - Retrospectacle
1996 MTM

Armed and Dangerous (soundtrack)
1996 Capitol

Celine Dion - Falling Into You
1996 Sony

Anastasia - Soundtrack
1997 Atlantic

Meat Loaf - The Very Best Of Meat Loaf
1998 Sony

Stiff Competition - A Cheap Trick Tribute
1998 Rock Dreams

Various Artists - Spirit of Asbury Park
1999 Halycon

Glen Burtnick - Welcome To Hollywood

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:51 am
by jrnyman28
What did Glen have to do with Here To Stay? When I get home I will have to dig it out, but I am assuming it was guest appearance on a track or two?

Heroes And Zeroes is the tape I have.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:00 am
by evileyes
Hippie wrote:
evileyes wrote:Well, I definitely recommend DeYoung's solos. I have all 3 studio releases (and finally on CD) and they get played frequently at my place!


I count 4 studio albums:

Desert Moon: 1984
Back To The World: 1986
Boomchild: 1988
10 On Broadway: 1994


Not sure which is my fav. All four have aspects that distinguish them.
If pressed, I'd probably have to say Back to the World or Boomchild .


Well, I guess I used the wrong descriptive here. By "studio" I was actually meaning his solo albums of new rock/pop material (except, I know, "fire" was a cover). Therefore I didn't include 10 on Broadway, The Ultimate Collection, Hunchback, or the Double Live w/Symphony. I have & love all of these releases. I would find it impossible to pick a fave, so I'm not even going to try!

I also own Tommy's Girls with Guns, which I remember liking quite a bit. I've just not added it to my CD collection (I have the vinyl), so I haven't heard it in a while.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:31 am
by bugsymalone
Very nice review of the album. I had the same reaction when I saw Desert Moon on VH1 Classic after such a long time. It was, just as in the video, like going home again.

This video gets a lot of play in VH1C right now, which is great.

And, of course, the new DVD collection has a very nice transfer of this video without any VH1 logos to mess it up, LOL!

Thanks for the link, gr8!!! :D

Bugsy