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The new Styx 5 song EP is now on iTunes!

from nick,
what is on this and where was it recorded, any info is appreciated

It was recorded live in a studio. Like the AOL sessions recordings done by other artists. No audience which is nice. The tracks are 1. I am the walrus 2. Lorelei 3. Find the cost of freedom/Can’t find my way home 4. Fooling yourself 5. Come sail away. Fooling yourself is a nice stripped down version with lots of piano and Lorelei has a piano intro. The rest of the songs are pretty much played how they perform them live but with a recording studio quality.

They re-recorded Come Sail Away...... Thats just sacriledge in my opinion.... it'd be like Journey re-recording Separate Ways or Faithfully.

They also re-recorded Loreli.... another Dennis-cowrite. So it's good that Dennis is making some money off this for the discomfort I'm sure he feels over Larry singing that song.

How come they didn't do any songs of their "greatest record" ... Cyclorama?

5. Come sale away.

You got THAT right.

Bugsy

well........If you cant write quality new stuff, just repackage the old.

AGAIN

andAGAIN

and AGAIN

and AGAIN

and AGAIN

and AGAIN...............

sorry....sail.

Speaking of that song LG's vocals sound more like the original then DDY's vocals do these days. DDY's voice is still very good but his age is really starting to show through. Before you all start ripping me listen to the new Come Sail Away right after you listen to the original then listen to DDY's newest live version.

The last DDY CD of new material (that wasn't show tunes) was released 17 years ago. How much longer before his new CD comes out?

Speaking of that song LG's vocals sound more like the original then DDY's vocals do these days. DDY's voice is still very good but his age is really starting to show through. Before you all start ripping me listen to the new Come Sail Away right after you listen to the original then listen to DDY's newest live version.

Sorry, Chicago, but Gowan on his best day vocally cannot ever compare, or even come CLOSE to, DDY on his WORST day vocally. Dennis simply blows him, and others as well, right out of the water when it comes to vocal power and quality.

MHO, of course, only.

Bugsy

ChicagoSTYX wrote:The last DDY CD of new material (that wasn't show tunes) was released 17 years ago. How much longer before his new CD comes out?

ChiStyx, I'm just as frustrated w/DDY about new Music.......

ChicagoSTYX wrote:sorry....sail.

Speaking of that song LG's vocals sound more like the original then DDY's vocals do these days. DDY's voice is still very good but his age is really starting to show through. Before you all start ripping me listen to the new Come Sail Away right after you listen to the original then listen to DDY's newest live version.

I much prefer the DDY live version to the studio version. I think his voice is much better on that rendition. His voice on the old version sounds very nasal, and IMO, he has a much richer quality to his voice now.

And, sincerely for me, Gowan always sounds like he represents the Lollipop Guild. His voice, even on his solo material, does nothing for me.

I do agree that Dennis needs to get new material recorded however.

Peace

I agree that DDY has a better voice. No contest. But I can listen to LG. I think he does just fine on the new Styx songs.

Ash wrote:They re-recorded Come Sail Away...... Thats just sacriledge in my opinion.... it'd be like Journey re-recording Separate Ways or Faithfully.

Which is basicaly what they did when Journey released their 2001 DVD.

How come they didn't do any songs of their "greatest record" ... Cyclorama?

Perhaps because they are still promoting thier LATEST record, and tour.

but why re-do songs off "lesser" recordings like Equinox and Grand Illusion then ???

ChicagoStyx says:

Speaking of that song LG's vocals sound more like the original then DDY's vocals do these days. DDY's voice is still very good but his age is really starting to show through. Before you all start ripping me listen to the new Come Sail Away right after you listen to the original then listen to DDY's newest live version.

OMG!! My hearing isn't the best, but there is no way that Gowan's vocals sound anything like Dennis', not from any era. I totally agree with Bugsy, well said

As for Dennis' new cd, it won't be soon.

Nick, here's a little information:

Live Session (iTunes Exclusive) - EP
Styx

Release Date: August 09, 2005
Total Songs: 5
Genre: Rock
Price: $4.95
Copyright (C) 2005 Universal Music Enterprises, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.

Live Session (iTunes Exclusive) - EP
Styx

Release Date: August 09, 2005
Total Songs: 5
Genre: Rock
Price: $4.95

As I said above, Chicago, "Come $ale Away" is an apt description.

Perhaps because they are still promoting thier LATEST record, and tour.

Then why use any songs on this EP other than what's on the LATEST record?

Bugsy

Monker wrote:

How come they didn't do any songs of their "greatest record" ... Cyclorama?

Perhaps because they are still promoting thier LATEST record, and tour.

Doesn't hold water... the put on songs from the 70s, but not their LATEST records... why not put on in an exclusive fashion, songs from Big Bang and Cyclorama? That would support your premise more.

Let's see, so they are supposed to be supporting their newest release (one which features JY on lead vocals on three songs no less!) and for JY's contribution he selects....Lorelei. Why oh why JY?

Aren't you proud of the songs you chose for Big Bang? Or is it that collective cringe that was issued after we all heard Manic Depression for the first (and last) time. Why would you chose to redo Lorelei? Is it because that is the song you are best known for? Is it the song most people identify you with? Is it the song the fans are clamoring to get yet ANOTHER version of?

Why would you do that? I can really only think of two reasons why artists release the songs they do. For money outright, or for an artistic/personal motive. When artists sell out, the music shows it to be so. When an artist makes a 'personal' record (see the last couple Bruce Springsteen albums) it is also apparent.

Was JY trying to sell out? Are the fans demanding a JY sung studio version of Lorelei? Does the band think that Lorelei can make more money than any other JY song? Probably not. So what is the personal motive? The more skeptical of us may think it's yet another way JY is trying to rewrite Styx history in his own image while sticking up his middle finger at Dennis yet again.

I could be completely off base, but it does make you wonder.

Scott

And if that's the motivation, it's ironic (at least to me ) that all it does is highlight how much the band DOES need Dennis.....

Outside of Cyclorama and Big Bang Theory, the track selection for every other Styx album since Brave New World has left me scratching my head! Styxworld and Arch Allies could've been combined, with some redundant tracks removed and some others added, to make a fantastic release. All the compilations are useless, with the exception of the Anthology (I've no intention to buy it, but it would be a great purchase for someone with a limited Styx collection). Ironically, the Wooden Nickel release, despite the lesser success of those tracks, is probably the best compilation of the bunch. You can throw this EP in with the rest, as far as I am concerned. I am happy for those who will enjoy it.

Maybe Universal is doing what there old label did, releasing msuic for $, but it's not a live cd like with their old label. I would rather have stuff like this than the same old live cd every few months-ERIC

Ash wrote:

Monker wrote:

How come they didn't do any songs of their "greatest record" ... Cyclorama?

Perhaps because they are still promoting thier LATEST record, and tour.

Doesn't hold water... the put on songs from the 70s, but not their LATEST records... why not put on in an exclusive fashion, songs from Big Bang and Cyclorama? That would support your premise more.

I said latest album AND TOUR...which includes songs prior to Cyclorama - and always will. They DID include songs from BBT in this. They don't HAVE to exclusively be songs from Cyclorama and BBT - and I'm glad they don't box themselves in with that misguided idea.

Gee, maybe the answer is that JY sings Lorelei in concert - and has for years now. Wow, that was complicated.

swwskj wrote:Let's see, so they are supposed to be supporting their newest release (one which features JY on lead vocals on three songs no less!) and for JY's contribution he selects....Lorelei. Why oh why JY?

Aren't you proud of the songs you chose for Big Bang? Or is it that collective cringe that was issued after we all heard Manic Depression for the first (and last) time. Why would you chose to redo Lorelei? Is it because that is the song you are best known for? Is it the song most people identify you with? Is it the song the fans are clamoring to get yet ANOTHER version of?

Why would you do that? I can really only think of two reasons why artists release the songs they do. For money outright, or for an artistic/personal motive. When artists sell out, the music shows it to be so. When an artist makes a 'personal' record (see the last couple Bruce Springsteen albums) it is also apparent.

Was JY trying to sell out? Are the fans demanding a JY sung studio version of Lorelei? Does the band think that Lorelei can make more money than any other JY song? Probably not. So what is the personal motive? The more skeptical of us may think it's yet another way JY is trying to rewrite Styx history in his own image while sticking up his middle finger at Dennis yet again.

I could be completely off base, but it does make you wonder.

Scott

Abitaman wrote:Maybe Universal is doing what there old label did, releasing msuic for $, but it's not a live cd like with their old label. I would rather have stuff like this than the same old live cd every few months-ERIC

Please explain how Universal had anything to do with this iTunes release.

I know I'm not the bright bulb in the lamp... but it looks like the copyright on there says Universal. Styx can't release anything without the consent of their label. Besides, who do you think paid for it?

I'm glad you copied that Ash, that's what I saw/read too. Ash, I think you're one of the brightest bulbs on this board

Ek88, you forgot to mention the latest release of Chronicles ("Crystal Ball," "The Grand Illusion," and "Pieces of Eight") LOL I'm scratching my head too with all these re-releases, but I'm one of those people that keep buying them - LOL I can't have enough STYX music

Classic says:

And if that's the motivation, it's ironic (at least to me ) that all it does is highlight how much the band DOES need Dennis.....

swwskj says:

Was JY trying to sell out? Are the fans demanding a JY sung studio version of Lorelei? Does the band think that Lorelei can make more money than any other JY song? Probably not. So what is the personal motive? The more skeptical of us may think it's yet another way JY is trying to rewrite Styx history in his own image while sticking up his middle finger at Dennis yet again.

It's a personal motive!! Actually it's a totally personal motive!!!

Monker says:

Please explain how Universal had anything to do with this iTunes release.

I just re-read the posts on this thread and I did post the information.

Just in case you didn't see Ash's post too, here is what I posted Monker:

Live Session (iTunes Exclusive) - EP
Styx

Release Date: August 09, 2005
Total Songs: 5
Genre: Rock
Price: $4.95
Copyright (C) 2005 Universal Music Enterprises, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Monker says:

Please explain how Universal had anything to do with this iTunes release.

I just re-read the posts on this thread and I did post the information.

Just in case you didn't see Ash's post too, here is what I posted Monker:

Live Session (iTunes Exclusive) - EP
Styx

Release Date: August 09, 2005
Total Songs: 5
Genre: Rock
Price: $4.95
Copyright (C) 2005 Universal Music Enterprises, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.

The quick answer is everything they put out is under the record company's name. Universal is their record company. Why no Cyclorama? Maybe because Universal doesn't own the rights to them like they do to ALL the songs that are on there. These are the songs they actually recorded in May.

They are showcasing the current members and their talents.

Lorelie has been played in concert over the last several years in their extended shows. No doubt they want a version with JY singing lead out there.

Don't forget the purpose of the New Door label.

StyxfanNH says:

Lorelie has been played in concert over the last several years in their extended shows. No doubt they want a version with JY singing lead out there.

Fine, JY co-wrote the song and he's been singing it at concerts - I see your point, but I don't agree this one should be included.

"Come Sail Away", NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

STYX has had a ton of albums, they had a ton of songs to pick from. It's so obvious why they added this one!

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
"Come Sail Away", NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

STYX has had a ton of albums, they had a ton of songs to pick from. It's so obvious why they added this one!

Yeah, they added it so they could piss of Dennis and his fans.

Why do you people make things so damn complicated. It's simply one of Styx' most popular songs....there is absolutely NO reason it shouldn't be included.