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Postby bugsymalone » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:03 am

Since we are on the subject of Kilroy here lately -- here is an article from Spokane that was used as pubicity for Current Styx' appearance there. I am certain that JY and Tommy loved it. :wink:

This article comes courtesy of a good friend who found it on the internet, of course!


8/5/2005

> It's time for us to meet the Styx machine
>
> Tom Bowers / Staff writer
>
> The members of Styx are, from left, James Young, Tommy Shaw, Lawrence
> Gowan, Ricky Phillips and Todd Sucherman. The band will play Sunday at
> Silver Mountain Ampitheater in Kellogg. (Business Wire/Associated Press )
>
> Styx
>
> When: 3 p.m. Sunday
>
> Where: Silver Mountain Amphitheater, Kellogg
>
> Tickets: $35.95-$45.95 through TicketsWest (800-325-SEAT or
> www.ticketswest.com)
>
> Editor's note: With the Styx concert at Silver Mountain Amphitheater
> on Sunday, 7 revisited the band's 1983 sci-fi concept album "Kilroy was
> Here." The following is a fictional interpretation - inspired by the
> album's liner notes - of the events portrayed in the climactic song "Mr.
> Roboto," in which the rock-star hero escapes from prison disguised as a
> robot guard. All quotes are lines from the song.
>



> Walls. Nothing but gray walls.
>
> Gray was a color for fall skies, cold sidewalks and empty stages
> before
> Dr. Everett Righteous and The Majority for Musical Morality hid me away in
> this place.
>
> Now it smothers everything I see: bars, blankets, even the toilet
> paper.
>
> Yeah. And the mock-human faces of the Mr. RobotoT brand robot guards.
> Gray.
>
> But last night's 3-minute mind-meld dosed me with color.
>
> Jonathan Chance, leader of the Free Thought Rebellion, hacked Dr.
> Righteous' program and replaced it with old concert footage.
>
> I saw my reflection in the box then, except I wasn't in this cell. I
> stood
> onstage in front of millions of citizens of New Freedom, wailing like the
> banshee messiah of rock 'n' roll.
>
> Molasses-slow thoughts warmed and ran quick like water.
>
> I wore a groove in the floor overnight. I know the guard schedule;
> they
> won't randomize again for three days. I can make a break.
>
> Morning's almost here now - the crushing trash compactors one floor
> down
> shake my cell.
>
> A Mr. Roboto wanders so close I hear its gears grinding. I snatch the
> exposed wires in the back of its neck, yanking down and away.
>
> Five minutes until they find out what's happened.
>
> Time to rock.
>
> "Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto," I say, detaching the robot's faceplate. It
> answers with a hiss of compressed air, then silence.
>
> I secure the mask over my face, wondering if the IBM- manufactured
> brain
> can hear me.
>
> "Thank you very much, Mr. Roboto, for helping me escape just when I
> needed
> to. Thank you," I say. Still no answer.
>
> "Thank you, thank you, thank you, I want to thank you, please, thank
> you."
>
> Silence. No more Mr. Roboto. I slip on black rubber gloves and fasten
> the
> armored chrome chest plate.
>
> Alone in the long, gray hallway.
>
> Off to find Chance. Off to start a revolution.
>
> .
>
> I've been a Roboto for three weeks since the escape.
>
> Encoded tags, graffiti messages, scrawled notes. I've bled words onto
> the
> walls of this city, trying to contact Jonathan Chance with two things: a
> time, a place.
>
> That time is now. That place is here, in a wing of Dr. Righteous'
> Museum
> of Rock Pathology.
>
> Onstage a group of Mr. Robotos mimic the last concert of Kilroy, that
> enemy of morality, arrested and jailed along Righteous' path to power.
>
> I spot a tall, dark man casually glancing around, looking for someone.
>
> Still in my Mr. Roboto guise, I march up next to him and quietly,
> matter-of-factly say, "The problem's plain to see."
>
> He straightens slightly. "Too much technology," he replies.
>
> "Machines to save our lives," I say.
>
> "Machines dehumanize," he returns.
>
> This is Chance. We turn slowly; his face gnarls, confused.
>
> "The time has come at last," I say, "to throw away this mask, so
> everyone
> can see my true identity."
>
> His eyes widen as I unfasten the faceplate and let it clatter to the
> floor.
>
> "I'm Kilroy," I shout, fist pumping. "Kilroy! Kilroy! Kilroy!"
>
>
>
>
> http://www.spokane7.com/editions/story.asp?ID=83508
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:09 am

It keeps coming back to Kilroy, JY and Tommy hate/hated it so much. :roll:

Then Tommy wears his Roboto t-shirt at concerts. :roll:

Thanks for posting Bugsy. I know we have more to post today :wink:
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Postby DarrenUK » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:40 am

With the exception of Just Get Through This Night and Double Life I hated it too.....so Tommy and JY are not alone.....

Heavy Metal Poisoning, Cold War and High Time would be the worst Styx songs ever had Dennis not wrote Music Time, High Crimes and Misdemeanours, Great Expectations and First Time.

In my opinion that is
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:45 am

Music Time is one of the best songs and videos!! I know it's just your opinion, but play the song a few more times :wink:

First Time is awesome song, you just have to be in the mood for it :wink: . I'm looking forward to hearing it live for the First Time - LOL

Tom and Jim could've written better songs for the album if they weren't happy with it. It was team work!! Go STYX Go!! :lol:
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Postby gr8dane » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:50 am

I think 'Great expectations' is a fantastic tune.Go figure!
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:48 am

gr8dane says:

I think 'Great expectations' is a fantastic tune.Go figure!


Isn't great to have different opinions?? :wink:

One of my Carrot Styx friends think that "Man in The Wilderness" is the best STYX song ever made, I totally disagreed. But now I've been playing that one over and over and over and I'm really starting to like it more and more.
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:28 am

First Time is awesome song, you just have to be in the mood for it.


sorry, but any time you have to 'just be in the mood' to appreciate a song, then it is not what I would call "awesome". IMO, an 'awesome' song puts you into that mood because many people can relate to it in a special way.

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Tom and Jim could've written better songs for the album if they weren't happy with it.
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I don't believe that is how good songwriters write their best work.

It was team work!! Go STYX Go!!


It is not 'teamwork' to be told to write songs about robots when that is not what others on the 'team' want to write about...which goes back to the point above. Good writers, whether they are writing music or something else, take things that are deep inside of them and put it into words (and music, for songwriters0 that other people can relate to.

The reason Kilroy (and Journey's "Raised On Radio") is NOT "teamwork" is because that vision was only close to ONE member's heart and that person's creative desires. The rest of the band became pawns to create that vision and fulfill that one person's creative desires.

THAT is the fundamental problem with Kilroy and why it should have been a Dennis solo album and NOT a Styx album
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Postby DarrenUK » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:32 am

Sorry Suite I cant bring myself to ever play Music Time again.............its just awful.....I know everyone is entitled to there own opinion.....thats what makes music interesting.

If I had to choose my worst 10 Styx it would be...

MUSIC TIME
HIGH CRIMES
HIGH TIME
FIRST TIME (LOT OF TIMES EH)
HEAVY METAL POISONING
COLD WAR
GREAT EXPECTATIONS
HOMEWRECKER
JUST FELL IN
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Postby sadie65 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:55 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Music Time is one of the best songs and videos!! I know it's just your opinion, but play the song a few more times :wink:

First Time is awesome song, you just have to be in the mood for it :wink: . I'm looking forward to hearing it live for the First Time - LOL

Tom and Jim could've written better songs for the album if they weren't happy with it. It was team work!! Go STYX Go!! :lol:


Suite...ya know I like you....but First Time....sorry cannot get enthused at all about that one.

I like the Music Time video, but as an audio only, well, it was cute back in it's day...a little dated now.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:59 am

Monker says:

sorry, but any time you have to 'just be in the mood' to appreciate a song, then it is not what I would call "awesome".


Well to me it does, just MY opinion buddy. Right now I'm in the "mood" for some hard rocking Motley Crue songs and I'm sure later tonight when I'm working I'll be in the "mood" for some "awesome" Equinox music.

By the way, what's wrong with robot's anyway? LOL Today I wish Kilroy was a Dennis album so he could have received full credit and a #3 song, by himself. But it didn't turn out that way and we can't go back in time. I'll probably have a different opinion tomorrow.

Darren says:

Sorry Suite I cant bring myself to ever play Music Time again.............its just awful.....I know everyone is entitled to there own opinion.....thats what makes music interesting.


That's okay Darren :cry: I understand. I know you've mentioned on here numerous times how much you can't stand that song, I just thought you might have changed your mind over night - LOL :wink:
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:54 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Well to me it does, just MY opinion buddy. Right now I'm in the "mood" for some hard rocking Motley Crue songs and I'm sure later tonight when I'm working I'll be in the "mood" for some "awesome" Equinox music.


So? All that proves is that if you are in the right mood, you can enjoy those songs. That doesn't mean there is anything particularly remarkable about them.

*I* think a particulaly remarkale, incredible, awesome, etc, song can be listened to in ANY mood and be able to transport you through the songwriting into whatever state of mind the writer and/or performer is presenting.

By the way, what's wrong with robot's anyway? LOL


What's wrong with a band being a band instead of one man and his sidemen?

Today I wish Kilroy was a Dennis album so he could have received full credit and a #3 song, by himself.


So do I...and if it fell apart, like his Hunchback dream, there would be only one person to blame....not a guitarist who wants to test his ability to punch a hole thru a window.
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Postby sadie65 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:13 am

Of course we all know the band had absolutely no way to say no right? Tommy Shaw had no other choice but to punch his hand through anything right?

Projects are successful or failures with more than any one person's input or output.

Must be very easy to armchair quarterback at times.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:36 am

Sadie says:

Suite...ya know I like you....but First Time....sorry cannot get enthused at all about that one.


I can't wait until Rockford. I'm going to find you during this song and sing it with you :wink:

Monker, just to let you know, I'm in the "mood" to hear a little Hunchback music :)
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:47 am

sadie65 wrote:Of course we all know the band had absolutely no way to say no right? Tommy Shaw had no other choice but to punch his hand through anything right?

Projects are successful or failures with more than any one person's input or output.

Must be very easy to armchair quarterback at times.


I would normaly agree with the above.

But, when one person takes control and dictates to the point that Dennis did with Kilroy, or Perry did for ROR, then THAT person has lifted HIMSELF above the others and deserves the lions share of the blame when THAT PROJECT causes the band to fall apart. I don't care how much coke went up the bands nose, how many fists went thru glass, Dennis took creative control of the direction of the band and ALL of the problems that went along with it are uniquely his. It was no longer just a 'band' called Styx...It was Dennis DeYoung forging ahead with HIS creative ambitions and everybody else had to either follow or end Styx. That is the bottom line...and Dennis brought it on himself by forcing so much of his own vision onto the band without allowing THEIR creativity to be on a balance with his.
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Postby sadie65 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:11 pm

Monker wrote:
sadie65 wrote:Of course we all know the band had absolutely no way to say no right? Tommy Shaw had no other choice but to punch his hand through anything right?

Projects are successful or failures with more than any one person's input or output.

Must be very easy to armchair quarterback at times.


I would normaly agree with the above.

But, when one person takes control and dictates to the point that Dennis did with Kilroy, or Perry did for ROR, then THAT person has lifted HIMSELF above the others and deserves the lions share of the blame when THAT PROJECT causes the band to fall apart. I don't care how much coke went up the bands nose, how many fists went thru glass, Dennis took creative control of the direction of the band and ALL of the problems that went along with it are uniquely his. It was no longer just a 'band' called Styx...It was Dennis DeYoung forging ahead with HIS creative ambitions and everybody else had to either follow or end Styx. That is the bottom line...and Dennis brought it on himself by forcing so much of his own vision onto the band without allowing THEIR creativity to be on a balance with his.



And I'd say to you that while he may have demanded (probably did), these men clearly could have said no. They opted to let him have the control you speak of...and as such the burden falls equally on them. When you allow your own freedom and creativity to be controlled by someone else, it does not negate your responsibility.
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:23 pm

sadie65 wrote:And I'd say to you that while he may have demanded (probably did), these men clearly could have said no. They opted to let him have the control you speak of...and as such the burden falls equally on them. When you allow your own freedom and creativity to be controlled by someone else, it does not negate your responsibility.


And, either way, the result is the same - Styx (or Journey) disbands due to one person having a creative stranglehold on the rest of the band.

Again, back to my origianl point - that is not "team work". That is not how a self proclaimed leader gets the most out of his coworkers. That 'leader' is not creating an atmosphere where the best product is created.

And, they ALL said 'no' after Kilroy (or ROR) was over.
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Postby sadie65 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:16 pm

Monker wrote:
sadie65 wrote:And I'd say to you that while he may have demanded (probably did), these men clearly could have said no. They opted to let him have the control you speak of...and as such the burden falls equally on them. When you allow your own freedom and creativity to be controlled by someone else, it does not negate your responsibility.


And, either way, the result is the same - Styx (or Journey) disbands due to one person having a creative stranglehold on the rest of the band.

Again, back to my origianl point - that is not "team work". That is not how a self proclaimed leader gets the most out of his coworkers. That 'leader' is not creating an atmosphere where the best product is created.

And, they ALL said 'no' after Kilroy (or ROR) was over.


While I agree that it is/was not the best approach to working together and fostering a creative atmosphere, I think it's oversimplified to say that it was because of one individual. To sustain the kind of success this band (and I am limiting it to this band here) would be a daunting task. Success breeds all kinds of things, egos, insecurities, changing visions, brings in yes people, tremendous pressure to keep that success. The burnout from it would be difficult.

Yes, they all said no when it was done. I'd be willing to bet they would have said no regardless of the project. The band needed a break. That they forgot their own original idea of what the band was for a while (and they all did), that was the casualty the fans paid for.

Teamwork also extends itself to stepping up when you know something isn't right to do. In that regard, they failed. By the time Kilroy was launched, teamwork was the farthest thing from anyone's mind.
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