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OT-Stryper concert in Charlotte

Postby swwskj » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:27 pm

Got a chance to catch Stryper (yep THAT Stryper) in Charlotte on Sunday night and they played a great show. Hadn't seen 'em since 1987 and they actually sounded better this time around. They also seem not to have fallen prey to alot of the vices of many of their contemporaries (drugs, alcohol, smoking etc...) as they looked great. My wife even commented on how young they look. Why is this relevant to a Styx board you may ask? A couple of reasons.

1. Stryper too took a long break (1991-2003) long enough to be forgotten by everyone but their 'hardcore' fans. The concert got no publicity locally and if I hadn't used a Melodic Rock link to their website I wouldn't have even known about the show. Not to mention that Stryper was kind of a 'novelty' act in the first place, I actually feared that I would be sitting in a concert hall with 50 people. To my surprise, they actually sold the place out (600+).

2. They, like Styx, are playing to much smaller crowds than in 'the day.' I think that if Stryper came through town every year, the crowd would have been much smaller. Which is why Styx is playing to smaller and smaller crowds. They are simply saturating the market.

3. Stryper started out as a heavy band and then 'softened' by releasing ballads. In fact in a Rolling Stone review of a Stryper album in the '80s, the reviewer actually made the Styx comparison. Many fans of Styx (and Journey too) complain that when Babe/Open Arms was released it brought the band popularity but also changed the musical direction of the band. While Stryper's main performers are still in tact (the bass player is new) they did surprise me in their song selection. They played exactly ZERO of their ballads in concert. Opting out of playing songs like 'I Believe in You' and 'Honestly' in favor of playing older songs. I couldn't help but think of the people who thank their lucky stars that they don't have to hear 'Babe' at Styx concerts anymore.

Actually seeing Stryper in a smaller venue was nice. The band was down to earth, answering questions from the audience, giving background on songs and what was going on in their lives. Much more personal. Although it would be nice to hear them on the radio or MTV every now and again, I'd rather see them still playing live and putting out records on small labels than retiring. Styx fans should keep that in mind when weighing out the options.

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Postby bugsymalone » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:19 pm

Now that sounded like a fun concert, Scott. I am only marginally aware of Stryper's music, and see their old videos on VH1Classic now and again.

I always enjoyed what I heard of them.

From what I gather, weren't they a very clean living band? I am sure that is the reason they still look and sound great.

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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:55 pm

Scott, Great to hear that you and your wife had a great time at the concert. Nice to hear that the concert was sold out too.

Actually seeing Stryper in a smaller venue was nice. The band was down to earth, answering questions from the audience, giving background on songs and what was going on in their lives. Much more personal. Although it would be nice to hear them on the radio or MTV every now and again, I'd rather see them still playing live and putting out records on small labels than retiring. Styx fans should keep that in mind when weighing out the options.


I prefer to see one of my favorite bands or artists in a smaller venue, I like the more intimate concert. BUT, I did love to see Paul McCartney and Neil Diamond in a huge venue with over 10,000 people, that was so exciting.

I like the part where Stryper answered questions with the crowd and talked about the background of the songs. I wish "my" bands or artists would do that!! :wink:

Nice review Scott, I'm glad you posted it :)
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Postby sadie65 » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:52 pm

And in keeping with the topic...

(please note the Styx tie in-LOL)

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STRYPER, FANS ARE REBORN
God-loving shredders transcend metal norms, spell check
JED GOTTLIEB

It’s Thursday, October 27, and House of Heroes is ripping through a great set at the Paradise. The guitarist pounds out power chords, the bassist noodles in the feedback, and the drummer is banging on those bongos like a chimpanzee. It’s high-concept emo; it’s muddy, massive math rock; and if the band were across the river at the Middle East, the crowd would be ecstatic. But as Stryper’s opening band, House of Heroes receives scattered cheers and polite applause.

“We were kind of nervous before this show,” Heroes’ guitarist Tim Skipper tells the crowd. “We just got off tour with MxPx and that was mostly 14-year-olds. They like anything you throw at them. But you’re a more discriminating crowd.”

But Skipper couldn’t be more wrong. Stryper fans are as average and predictable as any rock fans. They’re clapping for House of Heroes for one of two reasons: A) They’re Christians and clapping is the Christian thing to do; or B) they’re fans of ’80s metal and Heroes has a slight ‘80s-metal vibe (kinda Cheap Trick does Tool).

Most fans of Stryper (whose name stands for “Salvation Through Redemption Yielding Peace, Encouragement and Righteousness”) fit into either camp A or B, or some combination of the two. There are cute conservatives, like 30-something Jen Yates who drove up from Connecticut by herself for the show (even though she saw the band last month in Hartford); and mullet boys in Judas Priest and Mötley Crüe shirts who are here to drink a couple Buds and fondly remember their Dial MTV days.

It’s fun to think all Stryperites have a bunch of Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith CDs next to their copies of To Hell with the Devil—and some do (like Jen, who’s a big W. fan)—but most mix the sacred and satanic freely. And that’s cool with Stryper drummer Robert Sweet.

“We grew up playing with Mötley Crüe, Poison, Guns N’ Roses and everybody else,” says Sweet. “I think the first time Michael [his brother] and I played in Hollywood, I was 19 and he was 16. We played places like the Troubadour or the Roxy. The only the difference was we were throwing Bibles into the crowd. The bartenders would look at us and shake their heads.”

But Sweet wants to be clear—his band isn’t a novelty.

“Our music is just as serious as anybody’s,” he says.

Hair metal isn’t usually considered serious music, but the band’s live show backs up his boast. After 22 years, Stryper is still a talented, highly polished band. Robert Sweet’s a drummer in the Alex Van Halen vein; guitarist Oz Fox (whom fans keep calling Oz, as if that metal moniker weren’t already taken) has solid chops; and Michael Sweet sings like Styx’s Dennis DeYoung, plays guitar like Mick Mars and writes hooks like Bon Jovi.

But as serious as these guys are about their music, their main priority is JC. They praise God in song, they stop the show to toss out their Bibles covered in Stryper stickers, and—in case there’s any ambiguity—Oz tells the crowd: “We want you all to know that we love and serve Jesus Christ and we’ll never stop telling people about that.”

There are clear advantages to wooing both the secular and the spiritual. You double your following by attracting both Christians who usually find rock & roll threatening and metalheads who just wanna see a good twin-guitar attack. You bring together people who wouldn’t normally cross paths, people who happen to come from two of the world’s most blindly devoted fan bases. Scores of Stryperites gladly opened their wallets for $20 tickets, $20 CDs and a $15 post-show meet-and-greet. Holy cha-ching!

Scott “The Sickest Stryper Fan in the World” Dunbar (and just to clear up any doubt in case you think you’re the sickest Stryper fan in the world, Dunbar has seen the band a few dozen times, flew to Costa Rica for a single show, raked leaves “for like five hours” to save enough money to buy To Hell with the Devil, and has an insurance policy on his Stryper memorabilia collection) knows the scene intimately and says there’s never any friction between camps A and B.

“Everyone gets along really well,” says Dunbar, resplendent in his Stryper cap and yellow-and-black-striped tie. “Everyone just minds their own business and is real respectful of the other fans. People just agree to disagree. We’re all just into the band. All that matters is that they rock.”

And Stryper does rock—but it’s an atypical kind of rock.

“It’s not going to hurt the kids to hear it,” says David Wilson, who brought his wife and three junior-high-aged kids down from Beverly. “It’s different, because the types of people that go are very outgoing and clean-cut. I met a pastor and his wife at the last show. It’s just a different experience.”

Yes, it is. And just like back in ‘80s Hollywood, the bored bartenders are keenly aware of this. As the show winds down around midnight, the bartender closest to a church group of 13-year-old girls and their dads looks exasperated. When asked if that was a Shirley Temple he just made, he replies coolly:

“Man, I’ve been making them all night.”
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Postby swwskj » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:15 am

Thanks Sadie.

I have heard the Michael Sweet/Dennis DeYoung comparison several times. I guess because I'm a fan of both and have all their material that they are very seperate and distinct voices to me.

House of Heroes was okay. (I'm only saying THAT because it's the Christian thing to do :roll: ). And yes, they did recieve 'polite' applause at the Charlotte show.

If Stryper is coming to a town near you and you like heavier music, check 'em out.

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