OT - Genesis Reunion?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

There wasn't any "bad blood" between the members of Genesis, was there? Any lawsuits or anything?

I'd see this concert if they got back together. I saw Peter Gabriel solo and Phil Collins solo.



TEL AVIV, Israel (Reuters) - British singer and songwriter Phil Collins said on Sunday he would be open to a reunion of his old band Genesis, a day before he is set to perform in Israel as part of his what he calls his final tour.

"I'm open for it," said Collins, 54, the most prominent international music star to perform in Israel since the start of a Palestinian uprising more than five years ago.

"I'm happy to sit behind the drums and let Peter (Gabriel) be the singer. If (a reunion) happens, I'll be there. If it doesn't happen ... it would just be because there are too many things in the way," Collins told reporters in Tel Aviv.

Collins' concert on Monday in Jaffa, a quarter of Tel Aviv, is part of his "First Final Farewell Tour." He said that he would stop touring "soon" in order to be able to spend more time with his family, but would like to continue to record music.

Collins said he wasn't afraid in Israel, where Israeli-Palestinian violence has raged for more than five years, although attacks have largely decreased during the past year since a February truce. He performed in Lebanon a day earlier.

"I wish it wasn't like this," Collins said of the conflict. "I sit and watch stuff on the television, I think, 'Why, why, why."'

Groups like progressive rockers Jethro Tull, boy band Westlife and metal bands Megadeth and the Scorpions, have performed in Israel during the uprising. Other artists, such as Madonna, have canceled planned concerts, though she visited Israel last year on a Kabbalah pilgrimage.

The progressive rock group Genesis formed in 1967 and were internationally successful for more than 30 years. Collins, the band's first drummer, took over as singer after Gabriel quit the group in 1975 to become a solo artist.

Collins left in 1996 to concentrate on his own solo career having already scored solo hits in the 1980s with "Against All Odds" and "In the Air Tonight."

After a shuffle of band members, including an Israeli drummer, Genesis finally called it quits in 1998.

[styxfanNH]

This would be a great thing.

I think some members/former members of various bands are realizing that things change over time and some of the things that were issues years ago, really were insignificant when looking back.

Roger Waters was on Breakfast with the Arts promoting his opera that he wrote and was talking about the Pink Floyd reunion for Live Eight. HE went on saying that he reached out after not talking to Gilmore for 20 years. Saying from a today perspective, the issues that drove them apart were really insignificant looking back and perhaps they would do something in the future.

For some, time heals all wounds. There is also a sense of maturity one gets as one gets older and is able to put things into its proper perspective.

Then again, for some, after trying to give it another try....they find that the issues are still there.

To each their own..

[Rockindeano]

For some, time heals all wounds. There is also a sense of maturity one gets as one gets older and is able to put things into its proper perspective.

For most though, cash is the true healer. Styx could definitely be a candidate for a reunion. Journey, NO WAY. Genesis? Who gives shit.

Don't believe me? VH just cashed in, and put on a terrible concert tour.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Deano says:

Don't believe me? VH just cashed in, and put on a terrible concert tour.

Do you think the tour would've been terrible if David Lee Roth came back and toured? Or do you think that Van Halen is totally over, with both line-ups? Just curious.

If they (VH) are the ones with the new Rock Star project for next year, or whatever it's called, I wonder how they would be with recording and touring.

See, I "think" Genesis would still "have it". It seems that the members might have got along better, more than these other bands. Don't know.

[sadie65]

I tend to think that a reunion for Genesis would have a short lived value. Perhaps thats because I just don't see them having much impact today. Reunions more often than not, are bad ideas whose roots are found in money. I'm all for making money. I'm all for reuniting if it gives you what you truly want. I'm not for reuniting for the sole purpose of making money.

As for whether or not Styx would be a candidate any moreso than Journey, I'd say they are even. Though I think in both cases, it would be a mistake to reunite.

[classicstyxfan]

Actually, I think Genesis is a better band than Journey too.....though CLEARLY not as popular !

[styxfanNH]

Isn't it a great position to take. The only reason anyone would do anything is for the money.

Maybe after looking back at one's life, there is some realization that issues that seemed major at the time, really were petty. And the things that brought pleasure to their lives at one time could be revisited again.

At the time, Genesis was huge. Like many bands, principles in the band chose to do different things. Now years later, they are willing to give it a try again.

It's not ALWAYS about the money, not at this stage of their careers. In some cases it is about the music. Although the money from a tour is a by product ecause I am sure they wouldn't do this for free. But then who here would do it for free?

And who would really expect them to be a dominant force in the industry for a long time at this point? I would expect a reunion tour plucking the hits from the bands hey day, a live cd and a live dvd. I would be surprised if they put out a cd of new material.

[mr.v]

I think a Genesis reunion would do very good. Come on Phil Collins, Peter Gaberal and Mike (Mike and the Macanics) I can't remember his last name.

Anyway, in their day they were a very big deal and the original lineup IMO could score a new radio (AC) hit much easier than STYX or Journey.

[Angiekay]

I think a Genesis reunion would do very good. Come on Phil Collins, Peter Gaberal and Mike (Mike and the Macanics) I can't remember his last name.

Mike Rutherford of Mike and The Mechanics.

Anyway, in their day they were a very big deal and the original lineup IMO could score a new radio (AC) hit much easier than STYX or Journey.

I have to agree with. While I am a bigger Styx and Journey fan, I've always liked Genesis too, but Phil Collins has that HUGE A/C pull, esp since his involvement with movies. It seems no matter how long away from the scene he is, when he returns it's big numbers for him on the charts.

[DarwinNebraska]

Genesis is a much bigger an influential band than Styx or Journey and any reunion would be big on some level.

The question is, what line-up reforms... the progressive Gabriel led line-up or the more commercial Collins led line-up?

I would think it would have to be a combination of both... like two sets.. one doing the early stuff and one the later but I'm not sure Gabriel would want to take part in anything along those lines.

Gabriel, in fact, wouldn't even consider a reunion however recently he's changed his tune and is at least willing to talk about it.

Something is brewing...

[SuiteMadameBlue]

DarwinNebraska says:

The question is, what line-up reforms... the progressive Gabriel led line-up or the more commercial Collins led line-up?

I would think it would have to be a combination of both... like two sets.. one doing the early stuff and one the later but I'm not sure Gabriel would want to take part in anything along those lines.

Excellent question. I personally think it would be a combination of both. I would love to see it this way. I'm sure Gabriel would, just for one tour.

Gabriel, in fact, wouldn't even consider a reunion however recently he's changed his tune and is at least willing to talk about it.
Something is brewing...

Talking about it is a great start. There's more and more Press about a possible reunion, just similar to the Pink Floyd reunion. Even though it was one event, it happened, they talked, they were on stage together. All these guys are getting older and older.

I totally agree, something is brewing.......

[DarwinNebraska]

Excellent question. I personally think it would be a combination of both. I would love to see it this way. I'm sure Gabriel would, just for one tour.

I'm not so sure... Gabriel has a strong dislike for the commercial material from the quotes I've read over the years.

Gabriel is an odd bird.

[jrnyman28]

By the sounds of Phil's interview, the reunion talk is to be one with ALL members. That means Peter AND Phil. Of course Phil would have a lot less to do during that show...

[jrnyman28]

Excellent question. I personally think it would be a combination of both. I would love to see it this way. I'm sure Gabriel would, just for one tour.

I'm not so sure... Gabriel has a strong dislike for the commercial material from the quotes I've read over the years.

Gabriel is an odd bird.

Yet look at Sledgehammer...

[DarwinNebraska]

Excellent question. I personally think it would be a combination of both. I would love to see it this way. I'm sure Gabriel would, just for one tour.

I'm not so sure... Gabriel has a strong dislike for the commercial material from the quotes I've read over the years.

Gabriel is an odd bird.

Yet look at Sledgehammer...

I would gather that Peter thinks that's much more complex than the average Genesis hit song.

I don't think that... but I'm sure he does.

I prefer Collins Genesis work and his first two solo albums are masterpieces.

[LordofDaRing]

I wathced the BTM on genesis and I think Phil was a little put off with Tony and Mike when he bowed out of genisis. They made some great stuff, I thik Phil's fluffier stuff was the solo stuff after Hello I must be going which I thought was a great solo record. No lawsuits that I am aware of.