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Red, Rhythm, & Boom

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:23 am
by sadie65
Well now we know what they charge. No seriously, I hope it works out for everyone involved.

http://www.pulsejournal.com/news/conten ... uncil.html

Styx to headline Mason’s 2006 Red, Rhythm & Boom
Council OKs Health Alliance incentives


Thursday, November 17, 2005

Many people have begun making their Christmas lists and checking them twice. But Mason officials are already planning next year’s Red, Rhythm & Boom Fourth of July celebration.

Mason City Council approved legislation that will bring modern-rock band Styx to headline next year’s festival at a price tag of $55,000.

The band had a number of hit singles in the ’70s and ’80s, including Lady, Come Sail Away, Babe, Too Much Time On My Hands, Blue Collar Man and Mr. Roboto. Their gold and platinum albums include The Grand Illusion, Pieces of Eight and Paradise Theater.

Styx, which formed in the early ’70s, just released its 28th album, Big Bang Theory.

“To have them come to Mason is a tremendous opportunity for our community,” Mayor Peter Beck said.

Vice Mayor Charlene Pelfrey said jokingly she was disappointed her first choice, Donny Osmond, was overlooked again.

“This is six years he hasn’t made it to Mason,” Pelfrey said. “Styx is a close second in my mind.”

This year’s festival, headlined by Lou Gramm of Foreigner and the band Survivor, attracted about 12,000 people to Corwin M. Nixon Park.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:24 am
by classicstyxfan
28 CD's/Albums......man ! only what, 15 of em are 100 percent self penned, previously unreleased material......that's a very large percentage of releases with only recycled material....for any artist or group.

Interesting Indeed.....though I guess Cows are for milking, even Cash Cows !

Re: Red, Rhythm, & Boom

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:52 pm
by froy
[quote="sadie65"]Well now we know what they charge. No seriously, I hope it works out for everyone involved.

We also know why they have been doing shows for the last 7 years
Jy gets 15 Shaw gets 15 and 25 get split between the rest of the goofs,
WE may see Styx tourning forever with that kinda money being offered.
I just wonder what happens when 600 people show up and the promoter only takes in 240000 dolllars who pays the rest?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:32 pm
by ChicagoSTYX
Froy, are you saying there is no end in sight for Styx? If so I would have to agree with you. Would you quit a job that pays you over $13,000.00 a day? :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:33 pm
by bugsymalone
OK, question: Some of this would go to roadies, managers, sound tech, da bus.... Or is that a separate part of the fee?

So the 55,000 would be divided more ways than just among the band members? Or not?

Bugsy

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:39 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
If I can find the information, for "soft tickets" where they show up and play like at festivals (I'm being nice) they receive $20,000. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's what they got paid for at least 3 "soft ticket" shows.

If the tickets don't sell as they're suppose to for the "hard ticket" shows, yes the promoter loses money. I know for a fact that a couple promoters lost money on a couple of shows. One of those shows they were booked with REO.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:39 pm
by froy
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Froy, are you saying there is no end in sight for Styx? If so I would have to agree with you. Would you quit a job that pays you over $13,000.00 a day? :wink:


Yes I would If I was able to make 50 thousand a day
Like they did when Dennis was around .
But thats just me.
13 grand a day is like whoring around now,

Also there not getting 55 grand on each show
Most there getting 30 so this is a one time thing
Journey gets 100 thousand per gig
I wonder what Dennis gets?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:17 am
by Zan
froy wrote:I wonder what Dennis gets?



Scalp itch?

Re: Red, Rhythm, & Boom

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:08 am
by kansas666
froy wrote:I just wonder what happens when 600 people show up and the promoter only takes in 240000 dolllars?


The promoter goes home with a REALLY big smile on his face :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:44 am
by ChicagoSTYX
I’m not so sure they would be making much more per show is Dennis was in the band. I think a good number of people attending Styx shows don’t know who Dennis is or if Todd is the original drummer. The one thing I do know is that if Dennis were in the band they would be making much less per year due to the small number of shows they would be playing. I think Dennis (since 1984) looked at Styx as something to do as a hobby and not as a full time job.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:24 pm
by PsychoSy
If DDY were still in the band, they would have access to bigger venues, but would probably charge somewhere between $75-100K per show. With less shows per leg (because that's the way DDY likes it), the end financial result would be relatively the same.

Still, $55K is cheap for Styx! I wish Cumberland Valley and Monroe Co. City Hall here would plunk down the quid to bring them to the Monroe County Fair. Sadly, CU thinks the only thing Monroe residents want is country, country, country. I think the last rock act billed at the fair here was Firehouse back in early 1990s. It's been country acts ever since (George Jones, Reba McIntyre etc.)

Re: Red, Rhythm, & Boom

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:43 am
by froy
kansas666 wrote:
froy wrote:I just wonder what happens when 600 people show up and the promoter only takes in 240000 dolllars?


The promoter goes home with a REALLY big smile on his face :roll:




Really he smiles when he has to make up the difference from 55 grand from 24 grand?
The promoter has to pay 31 thousand Kansas
Thats not a smile .

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:46 am
by froy
ChicagoSTYX wrote:I’m not so sure they would be making much more per show is Dennis was in the band. I think a good number of people attending Styx shows don’t know who Dennis is or if Todd is the original drummer. The one thing I do know is that if Dennis were in the band they would be making much less per year due to the small number of shows they would be playing. I think Dennis (since 1984) looked at Styx as something to do as a hobby and not as a full time job.


I would say look at the numbers from 96 and 97 to base your comparision. Right now Styx is a dead issue only a few markets left.
I just wonder when that 55 thousand dollar promoter gets wind of how Styx sold themselves for 20 just a few months ago how he will react.
I may have to talk to him.

Re: Red, Rhythm, & Boom

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:51 am
by froy
kansas666 wrote:
froy wrote:I just wonder what happens when 600 people show up and the promoter only takes in 240000 dolllars?


The promoter goes home with a REALLY big smile on his face :roll:



To many 0's I guess

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:01 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Froy says:

Really he smiles when he has to make up the difference from 55 grand from 24 grand?
The promoter has to pay 31 thousand Kansas
Thats not a smile .


I think I mentioned this in another thread. For at least one of the Styx/Reo shows, the promoter lost a LOT of money with those 2 bands. That's not good. I know at the last Cleveland show,that promoter lost money and majority of the UK shows, the promoter lost money, except for one of the shows. All the figures and amounts are on Pollstar, but you have to be a member.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:04 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Froy says:

I would say look at the numbers from 96 and 97 to base your comparision. Right now Styx is a dead issue only a few markets left.
I just wonder when that 55 thousand dollar promoter gets wind of how Styx sold themselves for 20 just a few months ago how he will react.
I may have to talk to him.


$20,000 were for "soft ticket" shows, like the festivals. I agree, there aren't many markets left for them to go to in which it would be "new" to the fans.

I bet any money that the current line will change their set list and add a few "Lost Treasures" to the shows in 2006. Just a hunch.

Let me know what he says froy :)