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OT-Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:16 pm
by Abitaman
Anyone see the new movie yet? Took wife and kids tonight. My 10 and 2 yr old loved it. My 5 was bored. My wife said it was the worst of the 4. She thinks # 2 is the best. I thought it was good, the 3rd is my favorite, but I say this is the 2nd best.
Special Effects were good, loved the Dragon part. Pretty funny too.-ERIC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:17 pm
by Abitaman
Also King Kong preview was good, but the Superman returns was awesome :D -ERIC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:34 pm
by Monker
Abitaman wrote:Also King Kong preview was good, but the Superman returns was awesome :D -ERIC


King Kong looks really good. The Superman preview really didn't show much.

As for HP...

I thought it was good, but I'm not a huge HP fan. I think it's a bit over hyped. There were a lot of teens in the theater....and it is obviously directed at them anyway. There were a lot of parallels with high school life. They dealt with more 'mature' issues. It's obviously a story about transition...they are moving away from being innocenct 'kids' to dealing with being young adults. It is driven home with the last few words at the end. In that way, I think it succeded. Any teen would probably love this film...and adults may get a "yeah, I went through that when I was that age..." type of feeling. The story seemed to drag on a bit too long for me. There were times when I felt myself loosing interest. So, I definitely don't think it's the best...probably about as good as the first one.

The third was the best, IMO. I really like how the last half revists the first half and explains certain nuances....kinda like a "Sixth Sense" sorta feeling. You get those, "Ah, so that's why that happened!" moments....That, IMO, was great story telling and very creative.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:44 pm
by bugsymalone
My seven year old nephew, who is visiting, is my bellweather on such things. He loved the 3rd Harry Potter and seems totally disinterested in the latest one. He is VERY hyped about "King Kong" however, so I have a feeling that movie may be big with the kids.

I don't think Superman is on his radar screen yet, but I bet that will be what he is talking about NEXT visit. :lol:

Bugsy

What about The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:39 am
by LeesaFL
We've been watching trailers online for the upcoming great childrens story written by C.S. Lewis, the Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe, Disney is re-making it along with the Director of Shrek I and II, so you can only imagine how fantastic the scenes and costuming are going to be. It took 2 years alone creating Aslan, I cannot wait for this to come out, you must view the trailers online by going to Narnia.com it's really fantastic.
~Leesa~

Re: What about The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:11 am
by styxfanNH
LeesaFL wrote:We've been watching trailers online for the upcoming great childrens story written by C.S. Lewis, the Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe, Disney is re-making it along with the Director of Shrek I and II, so you can only imagine how fantastic the scenes and costuming are going to be. It took 2 years alone creating Aslan, I cannot wait for this to come out, you must view the trailers online by going to Narnia.com it's really fantastic.
~Leesa~


The group that did the costuming for Lord of the Rings is doing the costuming. It should be awesome.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:35 am
by sadie65
My son has no desire to see Harry Potter but he is really excited about Chronicles of Narnia.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:53 am
by ohsherrie
I haven't seen the new Harry Potter movie, I probably will within the next week or so, but I've read the book. This movie should be outstanding if it follows the book. Maybe they toned the movie down to accomodate the younger audience. I really like these movies, but because the first three came out to coincide with the LOTR, they will always fall short in comparison for me. I'm hoping this movie will break them away from the comparison.

I've read some of The Chronicles of Narnia. It has great potential as a movie, but I'm afraid it might just be another LOTR wannabe. I wish Peter Jackson had done it.

I'm interested in seeing how Jackson treats King Kong. It will have to be good, the man is a genius.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:41 pm
by styxfanNH
The trailer for King Kong looked spectacular.

and Narnia looks like it is going to be very good.

With Kong done, maybe Jackson can find a way to do The Hobbit.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:31 pm
by Monker
ohsherrie wrote:I haven't seen the new Harry Potter movie, I probably will within the next week or so, but I've read the book. This movie should be outstanding if it follows the book.


Well, my wife said this was most 'unlike the book' of the movies so far. They cut out a lot of subplots and even entire characters.

Maybe they toned the movie down to accomodate the younger audience.


Well, I don't think so. It's a lot 'darker' then the first three...a lot more emotionaly involved too. It seems more directed towards teens then pre-teens, which I felt the first three were.

I really like these movies, but because the first three came out to coincide with the LOTR, they will always fall short in comparison for me. I'm hoping this movie will break them away from the comparison.


Well, there is no comparison for me. It's like the South Park take off when Cartman and crew are playing LotR and walk by some kids 'shooting' each other with magic wands. Cartman, "What are you guys playing?". Other kid, "Harry Potter" Cartman, "Ha! Fags!" It's a TOTALY different audience...They are going after the "Willow" and "Labrynth" audience where LotR went after the "Excalibur" audience.

I've read some of The Chronicles of Narnia. It has great potential as a movie, but I'm afraid it might just be another LOTR wannabe. I wish Peter Jackson had done it.


Well, since Lewis and Tolkein were friendly rivals, I'm sure it WILL be a bit of a 'wannabe'...but the bits I have seen look REALLY good.

I'm interested in seeing how Jackson treats King Kong. It will have to be good, the man is a genius.


Well, I thought the preview was awesome. The scenes on the island looked REALLY cool. It also seems he's remaking the OLD version, not the 70's version...it's even set in the '30's or whatever.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:36 pm
by Monker
styxfanNH wrote:With Kong done, maybe Jackson can find a way to do The Hobbit.


Now, that is what I'd like to see. I think the only characters they would need to return are Bilbo, Gandalf, and Gollum...and Gandalf and Gollum are only briefly there, from what I remember.

There was also some talk back then about doing movies of some of the stories in the Silmarion (or whatever).

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:12 pm
by bugsymalone
Well, I thought the preview was awesome. The scenes on the island looked REALLY cool. It also seems he's remaking the OLD version, not the 70's version...it's even set in the '30's or whatever.


A quote from Entertainment Weekly: "It's an absolutle black-and-white point in my life," Jackson says. "I saw 'King Kong' and that was it: I wanted to make films."

My guess is, he will try to stick as close to the original "King Kong" as possible, with the modern technology to make it as realistic as possible.

It sounds very interesting and is bound to be entertaining.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:23 am
by ohsherrie
Monker wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Well, my wife said this was most 'unlike the book' of the movies so far. They cut out a lot of subplots and even entire characters.


Well that's a black mark already. The subplots in the book were what held it together with the overall story for me.

Well, there is no comparison for me. It's like the South Park take off when Cartman and crew are playing LotR and walk by some kids 'shooting' each other with magic wands. Cartman, "What are you guys playing?". Other kid, "Harry Potter" Cartman, "Ha! Fags!" It's a TOTALY different audience...They are going after the "Willow" and "Labrynth" audience where LotR went after the "Excalibur" audience.


When the first movies of each series came out some of the critics were saying Rowling ripped off LOTR for her story. I think that's why I was comparing them. I saw parallels in Dumbledore/Gandalf, Valedmort/Sauron, Harry/Frodo(being the hope of the good guys), the troll, etc. In The Order of the Pheonix there's a group of people comparable to the Fellowship. Now that I've read the latest HP book there's also going to be a token comparable to the Ring itself.

I like the HP movies for themselves, but nothing can really come up to LOTR standards for me.

Well, since Lewis and Tolkein were friendly rivals, I'm sure it WILL be a bit of a 'wannabe'...but the bits I have seen look REALLY good.


I didn't know about the rivalry. That makes it even more interesting. I've been seeing previews on tv. The landscape looks exactly like LOTR, but then, it's all New Zealand. :D It looks like they did a fabulous job on Aslan. It'll be interesting to see how realistically they pull off all of the talking animals.

Well, I thought the preview was awesome. The scenes on the island looked REALLY cool. It also seems he's remaking the OLD version, not the 70's version...it's even set in the '30's or whatever.


That's what my daughter and grandson said about the preview.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:32 am
by ohsherrie
Monker wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:With Kong done, maybe Jackson can find a way to do The Hobbit.


Now, that is what I'd like to see. I think the only characters they would need to return are Bilbo, Gandalf, and Gollum...and Gandalf and Gollum are only briefly there, from what I remember.

There was also some talk back then about doing movies of some of the stories in the Silmarion (or whatever).


As I remember the book,(it's been awhile)Gandalf, Gollum and Bilbo may be the only characters that are in both stories. Maybe Elrond, but I'm not sure about that. I think Gandalf makes several brief appearances. Even though it wouldn't precisely follow the book, I wish he would find a way to put Tom Bombadil in there. That was a HUGE omission from the LOTR.

Wow, the Silmarillion would make a great movie. There's a tremendous backstory to the LOTR that's explained in that book.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:35 am
by styxfanNH
ohsherrie wrote:
Monker wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:With Kong done, maybe Jackson can find a way to do The Hobbit.


Now, that is what I'd like to see. I think the only characters they would need to return are Bilbo, Gandalf, and Gollum...and Gandalf and Gollum are only briefly there, from what I remember.

There was also some talk back then about doing movies of some of the stories in the Silmarion (or whatever).


As I remember the book,(it's been awhile)Gandalf, Gollum and Bilbo may be the only characters that are in both stories. Maybe Elrond, but I'm not sure about that. I think Gandalf makes several brief appearances. Even though it wouldn't precisely follow the book, I wish he would find a way to put Tom Bombadil in there. That was a HUGE omission from the LOTR.

Wow, the Silmarillion would make a great movie. There's a tremendous backstory to the LOTR that's explained in that book.


Some of Tom's words were given to TreeBeard

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:17 pm
by ohsherrie
styxfanNH wrote:[
Some of Tom's words were given to TreeBeard


Do you mean the part about the tree trying to eat Merry and Pippen? That's the only thing I picked up on. I would have loved to have seen some scenes from the house, and how he interceded for them in the barrows.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:17 pm
by Penny
"They" reckon that Narnia will be bigger than LOTR. I sincerely doubt it, but it should be very good. Lewis and Tolkien were good friends who encouraged each other to write. Tolkien didn't finish the Silmarillion. It was published after his death but it does provide a great pre-history for LOTR.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:53 am
by mr.v
I really liked the new HP movie. Visually I enjoyed "3" more but this movie is a transition movie and as that it worked well. Complaints on the loss of sub-plots and characters from the book to me are unfounded. This was the longest of the books and one of the more complicated plot lines, in order to bring that book to the screen it would take a movie the length of the Lord of the Rings and the HP movies are aimed for a younger beginning audience so they have to be aware of their audiences attention spans.
Try this - don't compair the movie to the book and ask yourself "Did the movie tell a complete story?" "Did the movie hold you attention" "Was the movie visually stimulating"

As a MOVIE, In my opinion, it was a really good time and I don' feel like my money went to waste.

Don't even bring up the fact that it cost my family $17.50 to get in and then we dropped $29.00 for popcorn and drinks, someday I'll learn!