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Styx and Foreigner?
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Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:09 pmby Angiekay
Are Styx and Foreigner mapping out a joint tour? No one will say for sure, but it looks like the groups might join forces for a number of dates this spring and summer. As of now, they've got three shows booked at the end of May on the East Coast. Talks have been held about doing more, but nothing's been confirmed as of yet.
Both bands are gearing up to go back on the road later this month. Styx rolls into Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, on April 21st, while Foreigner hits Laughlin, Nevada, on April 27th.
The Styx/Foreigner itinerary (subject to change):
May 26 - Wantagh, New York - Jones Beach Theatre
May 27 - Darien Center, NY - Darien Lake Six Flags Performing Arts Center
May 28 - Holmdel, NJ - P.N.C. Bank Arts Center
Posted:
Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:36 pmby Red13JoePa
This will be interesting if only to see what they do about the "who's opening/who's closing" issue.
Jones being the only remaining real member of Foreigner I guess Styx has the leverage.
Should be a good double header either way. Oh, and Foreigner good on ya for not announcing that the date for the new live album's been pushed back. As usual Andrew broke it here.
Re: Styx and Foreigner?
Posted:
Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:42 pmby froy
Angiekay wrote:
Are Styx and Foreigner mapping out a joint tour? No one will say for sure, but it looks like the groups might join forces for a number of dates this spring and summer. As of now, they've got three shows booked at the end of May on the East Coast. Talks have been held about doing more, but nothing's been confirmed as of yet.
Both bands are gearing up to go back on the road later this month. Styx rolls into Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, on April 21st, while Foreigner hits Laughlin, Nevada, on April 27th.
The Styx/Foreigner itinerary (subject to change):
May 26 - Wantagh, New York - Jones Beach Theatre
May 27 - Darien Center, NY - Darien Lake Six Flags Performing Arts Center
May 28 - Holmdel, NJ - P.N.C. Bank Arts Center
Why not there both washed up bands
Why not tour together.
They could call it the Double Vision tour.
Re: Styx and Foreigner?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:43 amby NealIsGod
froy wrote:Why not there both washed up bands
Why not tour together.
They could call it the Double Vision tour.
Maybe you would prefer some of the current flavors of the month, like Good Charlotte or The Killers, you hip dude.
Re: Styx and Foreigner?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:43 amby Ash
NealIsGod wrote:froy wrote:Why not there both washed up bands
Why not tour together.
They could call it the Double Vision tour.
Maybe you would prefer some of the current flavors of the month, like Good Charlotte or The Killers, you hip dude.
Good Charlotte is mediocre at best. There is some pretty good modern rock. Right now I'm really into Thousand Foot Krutch and Cold. System of a Down is a bit more alternative but they still really rock out with a lot of progressive time changes and what not. Disturbed is another really good modern rock band that is more toward the metal end but reminds me of the energy Styx had in the early days.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:08 amby DarrenUK
Why does it mean they are washed up when a band does not have the original singer or guitarist etc in them...??
I seen Foreigner recently and they were fantastic.....better than they have been with Lou in years. Kelly Hansen has a great voice and is a fantastic frontman....Jeff Pilson and Jason Bonham is a great rythem section and Mick Jones still cuts the riffs and chops.......
Stick to your Neil Diamond, DDY crooning old man shite will ya Froy and dont comment on anything you dont know nothing about.......please tell me what Foreigner show you seen with Kelly Hansen ?
I have seen both Kelly Hansen and Lou Gramm (twice) front Foreigner and Lou was great the first time but awful the other time whereas Kelly was absolutely incredible............and better than Gramm.
Would you say DDY is washed up ? or is selling out 3000 seater venues still huge ?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:08 amby DarwinNebraska
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Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:49 amby froy
DarrenUK wrote:Why does it mean they are washed up when a band does not have the original singer or guitarist etc in them...??
I seen Foreigner recently and they were fantastic.....
I saw Foreigner sounds better
You saw a band using the Foreigner name and they were fanatastic was more like it.
Even Lou is washed up so it does not matter who is in the band.
Mick Jones is not Foreigner he just owns the name
We all know what Foreigner use to be like when Lou was healthy and there not that band anymore.
Stick to your Neil Diamond,
I certainly will the guy is a class act and won't ever be replaced.
DDY crooning old man shite will ya Froy and dont comment on anything you dont know nothing about.......please tell me what Foreigner show you seen with Kelly Hansen ?
Please tell me what Kelly Hansen show you have seen without Foreigner?
Tell me how many Steve Augeri shows you have seen without JRNY
And how many Gowan shows you have seen without STYX,
Fill in 's are not better than the originals CASE CLOSED>
Would you say DDY is washed up ? or is selling out 3000 seater venues still huge ?
His live show is better than STYX thats for sure
We will see when his new cd comes out if he is washed up.
Hows that sound?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:54 amby ChicagoSTYX
I still do not believe that DDY will ever release a CD of new original material. When I say release I mean by a legitimate record company and not just selling them out of his basement or website.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:00 amby DarrenUK
Seen all 3 without Styx,Journey and Foreigner....Gowan solo in the UK Kelly with Hurricane and Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So you think DDY show is better than Styx........which Styx show with the current line up did you go and see ? was it the night after you seen Foreigner with Hansen ?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:13 amby froy
DarrenUK wrote:Seen all 3 without Styx,Journey and Foreigner....Gowan solo in the UK Kelly with Hurricane and Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So you think DDY show is better than Styx........which Styx show with the current line up did you go and see ? was it the night after you seen Foreigner with Hansen ?
Who really needs to see Styx we all know their a cover band.
Sorry to hear you had to sit though Gowan solo I can see why you have hearing problems.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:22 amby jrnyman28
DarrenUK wrote:Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So Steve and Tall Stories performed songs from Tyketto's Shine CD on tour?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:43 amby DarrenUK
OOPS......I meant Tyketto........always get them mixed up..... Tyketto at Manchester Rockworld
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:45 amby DarrenUK
froy wrote:DarrenUK wrote:Seen all 3 without Styx,Journey and Foreigner....Gowan solo in the UK Kelly with Hurricane and Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So you think DDY show is better than Styx........which Styx show with the current line up did you go and see ? was it the night after you seen Foreigner with Hansen ?
Who really needs to see Styx we all know their a cover band.
Sorry to hear you had to sit though Gowan solo I can see why you have hearing problems.
The cover band terminology means anyone who is not the band doing their songs.....and that includes with an orchestra...
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:17 amby froy
DarrenUK wrote:froy wrote:DarrenUK wrote:Seen all 3 without Styx,Journey and Foreigner....Gowan solo in the UK Kelly with Hurricane and Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So you think DDY show is better than Styx........which Styx show with the current line up did you go and see ? was it the night after you seen Foreigner with Hansen ?
Who really needs to see Styx we all know their a cover band.
Sorry to hear you had to sit though Gowan solo I can see why you have hearing problems.
The cover band terminology means anyone who is not the band doing their songs.....and that includes with an orchestra...
If you are saying Dennis is a cover band you are corect he is covering his Styx music
Only problem he is not billing himself as STYX .
I have no doubt Kelly can sing better than Lou at this stage of the game
But its simply not Foreigner so to say Foreigner was great is simply not true The Foreigner cover band was great
I would agree with that.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:10 amby froy
ChicagoSTYX wrote:I still do not believe that DDY will ever release a CD of new original material. When I say release I mean by a legitimate record company and not just selling them out of his basement or website.
I think you may be in for a surprise with this one,
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:11 amby thebook
froy wrote:DarrenUK wrote:froy wrote:DarrenUK wrote:Seen all 3 without Styx,Journey and Foreigner....Gowan solo in the UK Kelly with Hurricane and Steve with Tall Stories....the Tall Stories show was great .......especially the songs of the Shine album.....do you have that CD ?
So you think DDY show is better than Styx........which Styx show with the current line up did you go and see ? was it the night after you seen Foreigner with Hansen ?
Who really needs to see Styx we all know their a cover band.
Sorry to hear you had to sit though Gowan solo I can see why you have hearing problems.
The cover band terminology means anyone who is not the band doing their songs.....and that includes with an orchestra...
If you are saying Dennis is a cover band you are corect he is covering his Styx music
Only problem he is not billing himself as STYX .
I have no doubt Kelly can sing better than Lou at this stage of the game
But its simply not Foreigner so to say Foreigner was great is simply not true The Foreigner cover band was great
I would agree with that.
good points, though most older bands don't have all the members for one reason or another, i guess if all the 'key' members are there i would be more apt to not call it a cover band. clearly gramm was the important aspect in that band.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:23 amby styxfanNH
DENNIS DEYOUNG: THE MUSIC OF STYX
This may not be billing himself as STYX, but its damn close.
Re: Styx and Foreigner?
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:28 amby Monker
froy wrote:They could call it the Double Vision tour.
And, Dennis and Glen can call their concerts, "Two Guys pretending to be rock stars."
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:39 pmby froy
styxfanNH wrote:DENNIS DEYOUNG: THE MUSIC OF STYX
This may not be billing himself as STYX, but its damn close.
Its better than STYX who plays the music of Dennis DeYoung .
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:48 pmby SuiteMadameBlue
I'm hoping that Foreigner comes to my area, I would love to see them. I heard all good reviews of this line up and show.
Darren, now, now be nice about Dennis. He sold out 13 out of 13 shows in Canada. I think that's pretty good.
There Was A Time
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:13 pmby BlackWall
There was a time when I would have been thrilled with this concept, not now..
I can make an exception for Styx, since they do still have Shaw and the "legend", and I can go see a Dennis show when he makes it around to my part of the world, but I can't imagine seeing Foreigner without the guy who sang all of the songs.. I realize Mick Jones wrote a lot of the material, at least that's always been my understanding, but I just have no interest in seeing a covers act. It's ashame because I've always thought that Styx and Foreigner would be a great combination..
A lot of bands don't have all the original members or singers, look at Chicago, but they still have the original voice in Robert Lamm, or at least some original essential members(not that Mick isn't essential, but one guy who doesn't do any of the vocals?).
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:41 pmby DarrenUK
WOW LOOK AT THESE COVER ACTS WITHOUT THE ORIGINALS....
ACDC
DEF LEPPARD
FOREIGNER
IRON MAIDEN
JOURNEY ( THESE WERE A COVER BAND WITH PERRY AS ROLLIE HAD GONE)
JUDAS PRIEST
KISS
KANSAS
NIGHT RANGER
LYNARD SKYNARD
MOLLY HATCHET
PINK FLOYD
SUPERTRAMP
QUEEN
VAN HALEN
WHITESNAKE
WOW I COULD GO ON...........AND ON AND ON.......HELL OF A LOT OF COVER BANDS OUT THERE EH ?
AND IF DDY WAS BACK IN STYX IT WOULD STILL BE A COVER BAND WITHOUT THE 2 JOHNS.......
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:22 pmby froy
[quote="DarrenUK"]WOW LOOK AT THESE COVER ACTS WITHOUT THE ORIGINALS....
ACDC
The band is still original same 4 guys
Bon Died new singer in
NOT a Cover band
DEF LEPPARD
Who Cares
FOREIGNER
Only 1 original member
Bonham sucks
Cover Band
IRON MAIDEN
Who Cares
JOURNEY ( THESE WERE A COVER BAND WITH PERRY AS ROLLIE HAD GONE)
3 core members still in the band
Not a Cover Band
Perry Quit
JUDAS PRIEST
Rob is back thats all that matters
KISS
They have had the original from time to time
The 2 main members are all the fans care about
KANSAS
Just lost Robbie
Who knows
NIGHT RANGER
Who cares
LYNARD SKYNARD
Sorry there was a plane crash
MOLLY HATCHET
Singer was sick
PINK FLOYD
Are not even together
SUPERTRAMP
Are not even together
QUEEN
Singer died
Bills themselve correctly
Bass play retired
VAN HALEN
Who cares
WHITESNAKE
Who cares
WOW I COULD GO ON...........AND ON AND ON.......HELL OF A LOT OF COVER BANDS OUT THERE EH ?
Depends on the situation
Foreigner has 1 original member
What about the CARS are they a cover band?
I would say so.
AND IF DDY WAS BACK IN STYX IT WOULD STILL BE A COVER BAND WITHOUT THE 2 JOHNS.......
Right there both dead
So your wrong again.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:25 pmby SuiteMadameBlue
Darren wrote:
AND IF DDY WAS BACK IN STYX IT WOULD STILL BE A COVER BAND WITHOUT THE 2 JOHNS.......
I don't think it counts if there are deaths of members of the band. I don't know.
This is just my opinion:
I think Styx is different than most of the bands mentioned. Dennis co-founded this band, he was one of the main songwriters and one of the main singers that people recognized with Styx. He was kicked out of the band. blah blah blah
Steve Perry could come back anytime, he chooses not to.
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:30 pmby classicstyxfan
I can just imagine GOWAN doing his version of "Hot Blooded" ( insert sound of fingernails traveling across a chalkboard here
)
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:42 pmby froy
classicstyxfan wrote:I can just imagine GOWAN doing his version of "Hot Blooded" ( insert sound of fingernails traveling across a chalkboard here
)
Gowan can't do a version of anything without the chalkboard,
Posted:
Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:06 amby DarrenUK
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Darren wrote:AND IF DDY WAS BACK IN STYX IT WOULD STILL BE A COVER BAND WITHOUT THE 2 JOHNS.......
I don't think it counts if there are deaths of members of the band. I don't know.
This is just my opinion:
I think Styx is different than most of the bands mentioned. Dennis co-founded this band, he was one of the main songwriters and one of the main singers that people recognized with Styx. He was kicked out of the band. blah blah blah
If deaths dont count then Dennis's ability to write a decent rock song died in 1981......so he does fall into that category....
Steve Perry could come back anytime, he chooses not to.
Posted:
Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:46 amby BlackWall
[quote="DarrenUK"]WOW LOOK AT THESE COVER ACTS WITHOUT THE ORIGINALS....
ACDC
DEF LEPPARD
FOREIGNER
IRON MAIDEN
JOURNEY ( THESE WERE A COVER BAND WITH PERRY AS ROLLIE HAD GONE)
JUDAS PRIEST
KISS
KANSAS
NIGHT RANGER
LYNARD SKYNARD
MOLLY HATCHET
PINK FLOYD
SUPERTRAMP
QUEEN
VAN HALEN
WHITESNAKE
WOW I COULD GO ON...........AND ON AND ON.......HELL OF A LOT OF COVER BANDS OUT THERE EH ?
I don't think a lot of the bands you mentioned are in the same boat as Foreigner. Most of these bands still have more than one key member, even if they don't have the original lead vocalist. My problem with Foreigner is that the guy who did all vocal duties(and quite well, too) is not present, and there's only one key member left(as far as I know).
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but when I go to a concert, I want to hear the person I've heard singing the songs on the albums for all the years. Is it really the same to go to a concert and hear someone else doing it? I mean, I could go to just about any club or bar and hear someone else do versions of my favorite songs.. why pay the cash for a concert? As I said before, I can make some exceptions: In the case of Styx, they still have two other key vocalists, and I can also go see Dennis, and I have. No, I don't like hearing Gowan do DeYoung songs, but it's a good time to go get a beer, or answer nature's call.
Chicago: As I stated before, they still have Lamm, one of the original voices, plus they still have the original horn section, and one of those guys, "Jimmy Pankow" wrote some of the most popular material, along with Robert Lamm. No, it's not the same to hear Bill Champlin(Look Away) sing songs that originally were done by Terry Kath, but he's all right(great on his own material), and that's only a few songs, where with Foreigner, it would be every song. They also have Jason Scheff(sp) singing Peter Cetera's old songs, but Cetera made the decision to go solo, and Jason has put a lot of years in now, and had a couple hits of his own with the band.
Queen: Quite frankly, in their case, Mercury's voice was an instrument in it's own right, and I have no interest, especially because the guy is dead, in hearing someone else try to sing songs that he made famous.
AC/DC: Yes, they did lose Bon, and I love most of the hits that Bon sang lead on, but look how many hits they had after he died.. It's a little different when the new vocalist takes over, and scores loads of hits, in contrast to taking over duties after the peak of the band. They also have other essential, original members.
Posted:
Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:11 amby jimmy19029
In a perfect world no one would ever leave any bands and they would always get along and there would never be fall outs, health issues or deaths.
The Four Tops were probably the longest lasting with their original four guys. 41 years! Then one guy passed on and the lead singer got sick and was forced to retire. Now another member has passed on leaving only one original.
I'd love to see all groups with all originals in perfect health and always at the top of their game too!
But if it comes down to seeing the music continue on and not seeing at all, I'll take the music continuing on with great replacements.
I guess it's a personal or legal call as to whether the act should still be called by the original name or as a "tribute to". Usually if NO originals survive and no key members from the hit days are there, I'd rather it be called "tribute to" And the ones who just pull together(with members that had absolutely NO connection at all) to take advantage of legal questions of name ownership are outright IMPOSTERS in my opinion.