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Darren Lord of the Ring Ash and soon YOGI going to be saying no thanks to STYX

Keep it up fellas this train is going to derail.

BOYCOTT STYX IN 2006

oooo 3 whopping people oooooo

LOL Sorry Froy, The Oilers forced a game 7 tonight, I'm getting pished up.

Go Oilers Go!

I am with you.

counting Froy that's 5. And seeing they wouldn't have gone to see STYX before this boycott, what is the effect?

If you wouldn't have gone before the boycot began, you are having no effect.

gr8dane wrote:I am with you.

Ok add gr8dane to the list of STYX haters we are growing strong
Pretty soon all 15 people on here will be STYX boycotters

BOYCOTT STYX in 2006

and again if you and your boycot members haven't paid and gone to a Styx show in the last year or two or purchased BBT, then you aren't hurting them at all

And if all 15 people on here boycotted Styx, I am sure their world would end. And we all know that's not going to happen in either case

styxfanNH wrote:and again if you and your boycot members haven't paid and gone to a Styx show in the last year or two or purchased BBT, then you aren't hurting them at all

There are hundreds of thousands of former STYX fans not buying anything from this sad band
Just look at there cd sales since Dennis has been gone
Little Bang sold what 20 thousand?
OUCH NH thats gotta hurt
JY was right he is rewritting the legacy each cd sells less and less
And without a festival they draw under 1000
OUCH NH thats gotta hurt
Don't you get it there has been a boycott of this band since they hatched there Dennis sceme you are just to blind to see it or to nieve to want to admit it.

Jodes wrote:oooo 3 whopping people oooooo

LOL Sorry Froy, The Oilers forced a game 7 tonight, I'm getting pished up.

Go Oilers Go!

Oh I see you are from Canada and you love Gowan
I get it
We put you in the not really a STYX fan catagory just a Gowan fan.
I understand now.

I bought BBT... and I saw them live on tour for Brave New World.

Although I do modestly enjoy BBT, I doubt I'll support them in the future. As much as I wanted to have an open mind after BBT and was generally feeling "good" about things, the attitude of JY has just really turned me off. To say I'd be "boycotting" them is somewhat misleading although I guess it could be technically true.

I'll never boycott "Styx" because to me Styx is Come Sail Away, Renegade, Suite Madame Blue, Babe, Lady, so on and so forth. I'd also never denegrate the name Styx because to do so would be hurting a former member that I enjoy.

However, my mind has really been closed by those representing that name in the 21st century. As I see it, it's not about being a rocking band and making great music as much as it is about them showing a "we can do it without Dennis because he sucks" mentality. If JY would spend half as much time promoting his own music as he does trying to tear down Dennis, people might actually think of him as a proponent of his music instead of a detractor of someone elses.

Negativity is never attractive.

froy wrote:

styxfanNH wrote:and again if you and your boycot members haven't paid and gone to a Styx show in the last year or two or purchased BBT, then you aren't hurting them at all

There are hundreds of thousands of former STYX fans not buying anything from this sad band
Just look at there cd sales since Dennis has been gone
Little Bang sold what 20 thousand?
OUCH NH thats gotta hurt
JY was right he is rewritting the legacy each cd sells less and less
And without a festival they draw under 1000
OUCH NH thats gotta hurt
Don't you get it there has been a boycott of this band since they hatched there Dennis sceme you are just to blind to see it or to nieve to want to admit it.

Been to about 25 or so STYX shows without Dennis and have always seen a fairly full house. Always more than the thousand that you claim.

On the other hand, I have been to 3 Dennis shows and I can't say the same. The one in Beverly Mass had 700 people, the show in NJ with Glen was not sold out and neither was the AC show.

With that said, I enjoy both shows and will see both of them again. Hell, if they both want to play with me the only one in the audience, I'll be there. I could care less about how many are there.

You always fail to admit that they play at the same size venue that virtually any other band of their age plays.
Regardless who is in the band, that isn't going to change now.

Been to about 25 or so STYX shows without Dennis and have always seen a fairly full house. Always more than the thousand that you claim.

I guess you missed the Chicago Vic show and the HOB in LA that only drew 600.
Wow 25 shows what a waste of time that is.

On the other hand, I have been to 3 Dennis shows and I can't say the same. The one in Beverly Mass had 700 people, the show in NJ with Glen was not sold out and neither was the AC show.

You can say whatever you want pal we all know you are being paid by the band.
Were you at the Chicago Show in 96 that drew 13thousand?
Or the MGM grand in Vegas in 96 that drew 15 thousand
I was
That was the real STYX my friend today its the cash register STYX that you support,

With that said, I enjoy both shows and will see both of them again. Hell, if they both want to play with me the only one in the audience, I'll be there. I could care less about how many are there.

You will get your wish soon sorry to say because the
STYX BOYCOTT 2006 is in effect.
Did I mention that.

You always fail to admit that they play at the same size venue that virtually any other band of their age plays.
Regardless who is in the band, that isn't going to change now.

Thats because every other band of there age does not have the core lineup either,

Ash wrote:I bought BBT... and I saw them live on tour for Brave New World.

Although I do modestly enjoy BBT, I doubt I'll support them in the future. As much as I wanted to have an open mind after BBT and was generally feeling "good" about things, the attitude of JY has just really turned me off. To say I'd be "boycotting" them is somewhat misleading although I guess it could be technically true.

I'll never boycott "Styx" because to me Styx is Come Sail Away, Renegade, Suite Madame Blue, Babe, Lady, so on and so forth. I'd also never denegrate the name Styx because to do so would be hurting a former member that I enjoy.

However, my mind has really been closed by those representing that name in the 21st century. As I see it, it's not about being a rocking band and making great music as much as it is about them showing a "we can do it without Dennis because he sucks" mentality. If JY would spend half as much time promoting his own music as he does trying to tear down Dennis, people might actually think of him as a proponent of his music instead of a detractor of someone elses.

Negativity is never attractive.

Nice post I agree

froy wrote:

gr8dane wrote:I am with you.

Ok add gr8dane to the list of STYX haters we are growing strong
Pretty soon all 15 people on here will be STYX boycotters

BOYCOTT STYX in 2006

This post just cracks me up. Wow, a boycott of 15 people. That's going to be how much of an impact for the tour? Let's just be generious and say $500 for the tour...Wow, they are going to feel the pressure now!

If I didn't know froy was serious, I would think this whole thing was a big joke. Too funny.

froy wrote:

Ash wrote:However, my mind has really been closed by those representing that name in the 21st century. As I see it, it's not about being a rocking band and making great music as much as it is about them showing a "we can do it without Dennis because he sucks" mentality. If JY would spend half as much time promoting his own music as he does trying to tear down Dennis, people might actually think of him as a proponent of his music instead of a detractor of someone elses.

Negativity is never attractive.

Nice post I agree

No, Froy. You don't agree. If JY called Dennis "sweetheart" and "genius" in every interview, you'd still bitch and moan about the current Styx because to you, they don't deserve the right to exist without DeYoung. Ash just wishes JY wouldn't continue to make digs at Dennis in his interviews.

For me, I'm sure it's no secret that I support the group and all of its members regardless of how they feel or what they say about Dennis. I do wish, however, that JY would keep his resentments in check when he's being interviewed (actually, I come from the school that holding onto resentments is extremely unhealthy and can be destructive). I happen to think JY's a great guy and wonderful musician - it bothers me that he seems to be hanging onto negative feelings, but then again, I haven't lived in his shoes for 30 years, and I guess he isn't ready yet, for whatever reason.

One of the only reasons I went to see DDY live last April (2005) was because I have noticed a substantial change in the way he speaks about his former bandmates and the fans who support them. It wasn't always the case...but he seems to have moved on and has humbled himself a bit, which I appreciate.

I guess in a way, I'm saying that I understand where you're coming from, Ash - it's uncomfortable to hear all the time. The only difference between you & me is that it doesn't make me want to stop supporting him or the current version of Styx, it just makes me a little sad.

They say "the best revenge is living well." I hope that both "camps" are able get that kind of revenge on each other. It would be the most beneficial for all concerned.

Froy, regardless where I'm from, I was a Styx fan first.. So don't you dare point fingers at something you know nothing about!

Nice post I agree[/quote]

No, Froy. You don't agree.

Ah Yes I do agree

If JY called Dennis "sweetheart" and "genius" in every interview, you'd still bitch and moan about the current Styx because to you, they don't deserve the right to exist without DeYoung.

To you Zan when do they not deserve to be STYX ?
When Shaw is gone?
Are they still STYX no matter who is in the band ?
Stop the bullshit here ok
You only like Shaw and thats why you support this act.

Ash just wishes JY wouldn't continue to make digs at Dennis in his interviews.

Im glad your here to clearify his post.

For me, I'm sure it's no secret that I support the group and all of its members regardless of how they feel or what they say about Dennis.

All of its members no matter who they are
Your a follower Zan not a leader.

I do wish, however, that JY would keep his resentments in check when he's being interviewed (actually, I come from the school that holding onto resentments is extremely unhealthy and can be destructive).

Jy is a nobody and he proves it everytime he opens his mouth

Jodes wrote:Froy, regardless where I'm from, I was a Styx fan first..

If you were a STYX fan first you wouldn;t be buying Gowan cds,.

froy wrote:Jy is a nobody and he proves it everytime he opens his mouth

Well, touche, big boy. It must take one to know one.

Zan wrote:

froy wrote:Jy is a nobody and he proves it everytime he opens his mouth

Well, touche, big boy. It must take one to know one.

Zan I know you too well
When I wrote that I saw your reply before I even sent it.
I can't wait till you join the BOYCOTT STYX IN 2006 cause,
Soon oh soon the light,

Zan wrote:One of the only reasons I went to see DDY live last April (2005) was because I have noticed a substantial change in the way he speaks about his former bandmates and the fans who support them. It wasn't always the case...but he seems to have moved on and has humbled himself a bit, which I appreciate.

I guess in a way, I'm saying that I understand where you're coming from, Ash - it's uncomfortable to hear all the time. The only difference between you & me is that it doesn't make me want to stop supporting him or the current version of Styx, it just makes me a little sad.

Why is it when Dennis speaks ill of his former band mates then it makes you not want to go see him, but when JY does it then it just makes you sad? I'm not trying to be adversarial there honestly - I'm just trying to understand. If both camps were separate but had mutual respect and just decided to let their art speak for themselves, I might not like it - but I might be able to accept it at some point.

If Dennis came out and started slamming JY and Tommy - even though I'd feel he was justified by "responding" - I'd likely stop supporting him - because the names is not what it's all about.

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.

Again I'm not trying to pick a fight - I'm just trying to understand. You can PM me the reply if you want. It's cool.

.

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.

Its ok because she is one of the Tommy Followers
She is sad when JY blasts Dennis but she will over look it just to see Tommy can you say awe poor JY<

Again I'm not trying to pick a fight - I'm just trying to understand. You can PM me the reply if you want. It's cool.

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I will pick the fight don't worry
How about it Zan


great post ash

Huh? Well Sorry Froy, when Gowan was putting out his Cd's and was popular in Canada, Styx WASN'T putting out any cd's, so of course I was buying Gowan's solo albums! There wasn't even a Styx connection 21 years ago!

And I can tell you that Gowan's solo albums in the 80's: Strange Animal, Great Dirty World and Lost Brotherhood EACH sold more then any of Dennis's solo albums did up here, and they still are selling and are in print. Even his two albums in the 90's, You Can Call Me Larry and The Good Catches Up went gold here.

Only Dennis Deyoung solo song to make the radio here in Canada was Desert Moon, his albums were released with very little promo (I blame A&M for that) and within a a few years, Desert Moon, Back To The World and Boomchild were all out of print, where as Gowan was still on the radio with new material until the late 1990's.

The only album of Dennis's to go gold/platinum was his latest one with the Symphony of Styx material. None of his solo cd's have accomplished that.

I was a fan of his WELL before he joined Styx! Again, there was no New Styx material out there, so I listened to other things.. God Forbid someone does that!

So I have all of Gowan's solo albums.. but guess what, I also have all of Glen's solo disks, all of Tommy's and JY's yes all of Dennis's solo albums too. So sue me!

But obviously I can't be a Dennis fan in your eyes.. Even if I was one of the 250 that bought tickets to his show here in Edmonton that got postponed and guess what, I'll be there in November definately ready for it!

Btw.. Larry's played that venue that Dennis was suppose/is going to be playing in several times and has NEVER had to cancel a show there..

Just FYI

Jodes,

Let's be honest here. When anyone of Canadian descent makes even the slightest dent in music, you hosers eat it up like the second coming. How has Gowan done stateside or anywhere else of significance for that matter? How did that show in Glasgow do? NOT TOO GOOD. Exclude the greater Gowan family and Styx in Glasgow sold about 400 seats, pretty freakin' weak for his homecoming.

Hey, I like Gowan for the record, but to play up his importance is laughable at best. Dennis as a solo artist blows his ass away. Figure in the Dennis penned Styx songs and it ain't even a contest. In fact, exclude the Dennis written songs and Gowan would be a keyboardist exclusively.

Well Okay Derri thank you for your comment.. but I don't appreciate the hosers comment. No need for that. We don't "eat it up" but don't you have someone in your community that has done well for themselves? Aren't you proud of their accomplishments?

Yes it's true that Larry hasn't broken stateside, but again, many talented Canadian artists haven't, mainly due to their labels NOT promoting them in the US. Does that make them terrible artists?

Honestly I did not know how well the Styx show in Glasgow sold, thank you for that information. To be honest I was surprised that Styx even bothered to tour England, they weren't even that popular there when Dennis was in the band. I think the only reason why they did that tour was because they were booked at the Swedish and Arrow rock festivals, and were guaranteed to play in front of big crowds with a big payday.. I'm sure those two shows made up for the other smaller turnouts.

My question to you Derri is home come then if Dennis was such a great solo artist, how come he didn't have more hits? I love his solo albums, but how come they didn't go gold or platinum? They didn't even do that here in Canada, where in Eastern Canada (Quebec and Ontario) everything that Styx released in the 70's and 80's turned to gold or platinum.

Dennis has had major accomplishments, no doubt about that. Larry has had accomplishments here in Canada. Both are talented individuals.

Do I think Larry's more important than Dennis? Absolutely not, But you can't ignore what Larry's done in his home country, just like you can't ignore what Dennis did with Styx.

Man I have a headache now..

Yikes, the past is the past. It doesn't matter anymore who had bigger hits than each other. During the times that Dennis, Tommy, JY and even Gowan had their solo albums, promoting and publicizing them are so different compared to now.

You know, it doesn't matter anymore how many tickets are sold at each show or the venue where they're playing.

I know I personally posted and compared the camps in the past, I'm done with it now. It's so fricken great to enjoy the shows that we can see now no matter who it is.

Life is too short, go out and try to see all the concerts you can if you have the opportunity. Pretty soon all we're going to have left is the memories.

Jodes wrote:Well Okay Derri thank you for your comment.. but I don't appreciate the hosers comment. No need for that. We don't "eat it up" but don't you have someone in your community that has done well for themselves? Aren't you proud of their accomplishments?

Yes it's true that Larry hasn't broken stateside, but again, many talented Canadian artists haven't, mainly due to their labels NOT promoting them in the US. Does that make them terrible artists?

I think it was you who brought up Dennis' lack of solo success in Canada, just thought I'd balance for you that's all. As far as the 'Hosers' comment, blame it on far too may viewings of Strange Brew.

[quote="Jodes"}My question to you Derri is home come then if Dennis was such a great solo artist, how come he didn't have more hits? I love his solo albums, but how come they didn't go gold or platinum? They didn't even do that here in Canada, where in Eastern Canada (Quebec and Ontario) everything that Styx released in the 70's and 80's turned to gold or platinum.[/quote]

Actually Dennis, Tommy and JY had mediocre solo careers. I guess the whole was greater than the sum of the parts.

[quote="Jodes"]Do I think Larry's more important than Dennis? Absolutely not, But you can't ignore what Larry's done in his home country, just like you can't ignore what Dennis did with Styx.

Man I have a headache now..[/quote]

Sorry for the headache Actually I am not downplaying Gowan as a musician, merely standing up for DDY. In truth, as Styx stands now, Gowan is as worthy as anyone in the current incarnation as any for the price of admission.

Sorry for the headache Actually I am not downplaying Gowan as a musician, merely standing up for DDY. In truth, as Styx stands now, Gowan is as worthy as anyone in the current incarnation as any for the price of admission.

Don't Let Froy hear you say that!

froy wrote:.Its ok because she is one of the Tommy Followers
She is sad when JY blasts Dennis but she will over look it just to see Tommy can you say awe poor JY<

LOL! Yer killin' me, Froy. I will say, you *are* consistant. Not that I can or care to change your mind (she uses the word "mind" loosely), but I want to see everyone in the band. Todd and Lawrence are the most entertaining to watch for me these days. I guess that makes me a Todd and Larry follower...or something. Whatever helps you make your next stinging retort.

Ash, it's a legitimate question. I'll send you a PM, if for no other reason than to keep Froy and his intimidating intellect out of it.

Ash, it's a legitimate question. I'll send you a PM, if for no other reason than to keep Froy and his intimidating intellect out of it.[/color][/b]

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Ah can you send me a PM also Zan
i need this answered very quickly so I can get back to the
STYX BOYCOTT 2006

In truth, as Styx stands now, Gowan is as worthy as anyone in the current incarnation as any for the price of admission.

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And that price is pretty much free right now
So STYX and there members are worthless.


BOYCOTT STYX IN 2006
Send a message we want the real STYX band back.