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[styxfanNH]

I caught the last episode of Supergroup last night followed by the after show/series banter of the members minus Ted Nugent. The guys said they wanted to get this new group "Damnocracy" together and record an album and do some shows. The only thing in the way was TED. It appears that Ted can't tear himself away from hunting to find the time to record or do a show. The guys said it was clear that to Ted, rock n roll and hunting were equals, perhaps hunting had a higher priority in Ted's life than the music industry.

After hearing this, it was pretty clear to me that Ted is what is standing in the way of a Damn Yankees tour more than anything else.

And linking this in with another thread, I think Ted is a riot.

[whocares]

I didn't see it, on purpose, but does Every group that Ted gets into besides his own, have to start with "Damn..." I'm not knocking it as cussing, I just mean it sounds too much like Damn Yankees.

I'd say Ted's hunting and telling people his political views are getting in the way of a lot of things. Personally, I'd rather see another Shaw/Blades CD, than a Damn Yankees one at this point.

Not sure about the "new supergroup", don't even know who's in it.

[I Stumble In]

Well - you are right and wrong in the same time. Ted semi-retired about 10 years ago so that he could spend the time hunting in the fall and winter - Plus the guy is 56 years old and has plenty of money. With the tour schedule of Styx over the last 5 years, and Jack Blades schedule also - the only time to record would be late fall - early winter. Add in production, et al - and there wouldn't be enough time to put an album together, and then hit the road to promote it properly. The only way it would happen is if Tommy and Jack were to take a year off from their respective projects. And judging from the success that both seem to be enjoying it won't happen anytime soon. So yes - Ted is kind of holding it up - but so are Tommy and Jack. Some day - possibly - I know I'll be there if it happens.

[styxfanNH]

Wasn't referring to a Damn Yankees album, I was referring to a Damnocracy album.

and Whocares, I was thinking the same thing when I heard the name of the band.

[ek88]

I think Damnocracy originated from something said by Scott Ian, so the Ted connection is merely coincidence. Haven't watched the show closely enough to be entirely sure, though.

[Liz22562]

It came from Uncle Ted....he remarked that it was a damn democracy and a few minutes later - Sebastian's eyes widened and he spit out the name Damnocracy.

[whocares]

I agree Ted doesn't need the money, as a staunch and I do mean STAUNCH Republican he is very tight with his money. As a hunter he doesn't have to spend money on meat. And as a recording artist he doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself. These are all thing Ted would tell you himself. We all know Ted isn't afraid to speak his mind. No matter what anyone thinks of him, Ted is Ted.

Whoever is holding up the Damn Yankee's release(s), it's a shame. They were fun to see in concert the few times I saw them.

[StyxCollector]

Whoever is holding up the Damn Yankee's release(s), it's a shame. They were fun to see in concert the few times I saw them.

Let's do a count:

* Unreleased album from 1993/1994 - killed in the whole Mo Austin/WB changing of the guard. Damn Yankees was paid off to go away.
* Unreleased album on Portrait - mixed stories, but you can read between the lines. There was a lot of tension around that, and it seems to stem from Tommy's commitment to the project He was out, he was in ... I mean, Kelly Keagy was in, then Michael Cartellone was angry, so he was back in, Kelly out. Damon Johnson was brought in since Tommy was doing Styx, and then Tommy wanted in, so it became a clusterfuck. They finished the album, took promo pictures, and Kalodner has said it was killed because it wasn't very good. Even if it wasn't, I think Tommy's commitment to Styx and lack of commitment to tour with DY ultimately killed that project and pissed off Ted. Tommy kinda pulled a Steve Perry on that one IMHO

I'm curious to hear both projects, but they'll never see the light of day, However, a lot of the tracks from that Portrait album have been re-recorded by the guys so you can get an idea. None of it was great.

[ek88]

Even if it wasn't, I think Tommy's commitment to Styx and lack of commitment to tour with DY ultimately killed that project and pissed off Ted. Tommy kinda pulled a Steve Perry on that one IMHO

I agree. There was a special magic to Damn Yankees, and it's a shame that Tommy hasn't found some time to set aside for the Yanks. I wonder what the other boys in Styx would think about a brief hiatus to allow for a DY tour.

[StyxCollector]

Even if it wasn't, I think Tommy's commitment to Styx and lack of commitment to tour with DY ultimately killed that project and pissed off Ted. Tommy kinda pulled a Steve Perry on that one IMHO

I agree. There was a special magic to Damn Yankees, and it's a shame that Tommy hasn't found some time to set aside for the Yanks. I wonder what the other boys in Styx would think about a brief hiatus to allow for a DY tour.

JY said in an interview a few years back that there's no need for solo projects. 'Nuff said.

Styx is a 365, 24x7 job. With DDY gone, they've had to work harder than ever before to keep themselves out there. I don't care how much you love music, being on the road as much as they have the past seven years is something you don't do because you want to do it; you do it for some need. There are much more fulfilling ways to do music than killing yourself on the road, but you make the most money that way.

Tommy realized for him, Styx is the cash cow. DY would have been a fun side project that would have disrupted the Styx train.

[whocares]

sounds as mujch like JY could be holding Styx's cash cow over TOmmy's head and not "allowing" him time to do side projects. But that could be something that someone will come back and tell me, I'm reading too much into it.

[StyxCollector]

sounds as mujch like JY could be holding Styx's cash cow over TOmmy's head and not "allowing" him time to do side projects. But that could be something that someone will come back and tell me, I'm reading too much into it.

Well, JY can't do Styx alone with either no Tommy or no Dennis. If there was no Tommy, there was Dennis (EOTC). If ther was no Dennis, there is Tommy (1999 - now). That's JY's problem.

Tommy has also realized that Styx is his legacy. Not Damn Yankees. Not Shaw Blades. Not M.S. Funk. With DDY gone, Tommy is the proverbial known frontman. There's no real spotlight on anyone but him. He's arguably the focus of the show, despite Gowan getting a few songs and JY one or maybe two.

They've made their bed, and in the process, hurt themselves. Like Journey, you can see Styx multiple times a year generally in the same area or at least once a year. There's nothing special about seeing them anymore.

I would love to see DY once again, and I will still contend that it's a better project for Tommy than Styx is.

[whocares]

wholeheartedly agree.

Always been and no matter what he spouts away from the band, always will be a Tommy fan for the musicality aspect.

I have a sound file of Tommy doing a local radio show back in '91 that you might be interested in. Just have to find it. It's just Tommy being Tommy and playing good music, him and his guitar.

[Monker]

I caught the last episode of Supergroup last night followed by the after show/series banter of the members minus Ted Nugent. The guys said they wanted to get this new group "Damnocracy" together and record an album and do some shows. The only thing in the way was TED. It appears that Ted can't tear himself away from hunting to find the time to record or do a show. The guys said it was clear that to Ted, rock n roll and hunting were equals, perhaps hunting had a higher priority in Ted's life than the music industry.

After hearing this, it was pretty clear to me that Ted is what is standing in the way of a Damn Yankees tour more than anything else.

And linking this in with another thread, I think Ted is a riot.

I don't know about that. It seemed to me that Ted was the most 'mature' person in that group. I know he talks the 'blood brothers' thing up...But, it wouldn't suprise me if he wanted nothing to do with them...especialy at his age.

[stmonkeys]

wholeheartedly agree.

Always been and no matter what he spouts away from the band, always will be a Tommy fan for the musicality aspect.

I have a sound file of Tommy doing a local radio show back in '91 that you might be interested in. Just have to find it. It's just Tommy being Tommy and playing good music, him and his guitar.

i would love to hear it!!!! please let us know when you find it! thanks...

[whocares]

i would love to hear it!!!! please let us know when you find it! thanks...

Yeah I got it right here it's a 11 minute file, some classic stuff, plus a song you probably never thought you'd hear Tommy sing. I'll leave it up to you folks to decide if more than one person wants it. 1/2 live in the radio studio, and 1/2 in a local restaurant for Cinco de Mayo. I was there right next to where Tommy was playing, and it was damn fine. Fortunately the DJ still plays it from time to time on the various stations he's been on.

[Monker]

I just reread this and wanted to make clear that Ted is the most 'mature' person in DAMNOCRACY...I didn't mean DY. After reading that, it looked like I was talking about DY.

There was just so much crazyness in that show, and Ted seemed to be the only one with a brain...from the fist fights, to the drunken lead singer, to the porno shoots...NONE of which Ted was a part of, until he was called in to act as the level-headed grandfather who had everybody's respect. I just don't see Ted feeling the urge to get involved in such a band for the long haul.

[styxfanNH]

I just reread this and wanted to make clear that Ted is the most 'mature' person in DAMNOCRACY...I didn't mean DY. After reading that, it looked like I was talking about DY.

There was just so much crazyness in that show, and Ted seemed to be the only one with a brain...from the fist fights, to the drunken lead singer, to the porno shoots...NONE of which Ted was a part of, until he was called in to act as the level-headed grandfather who had everybody's respect. I just don't see Ted feeling the urge to get involved in such a band for the long haul.

If it was going to happen, I would think it would ba a one shot deal. Definitely a harder edge of stuff than what Ted usually does.

[NealIsGod]

News flash: Reality shows are not REAL.

[Zan]

News flash: Reality shows are not REAL.

They're certainly NOT!!! My boss' son was in one for Mtv, and the producers and directors were standing over him the whole time telling him how to react, what to say, who to choose, etc. Pathetic.

[Ash]

porno shoots

Where do I apply for the reality show?

[AR]

I saw Ted Nugent live on Saturday night. He put on a great show. So hunting season must not have started yet.

[NealIsGod]

Speaking of "reality" shows, anyone watching SuperNova? It's on as I write...

[Monker]

porno shoots

Where do I apply for the reality show?

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Seriously...Sebatstian's mouth was open and tongue hanging out the entire time, don't know how many times he said, "Oh, my God!". You should have heard him directing it..."Ok, now stick your ass out a little more, the way I like it. OH, YEAH! That's the shot! Get it!" He was talking about his own wife too! You would think he has, you know, seen it all before!

Ted walks in, sees what is going on, and then leaves but I think the rest of the band and film crew were there.

Then Sebastian's publicist, or whatever, walks into it and you can tell she almost got sick. They weren't showing what the girls were doing, but his "Oh, yeah, dig for gold!" comment pretty much describes it!

Ted made some comment in an interview segment about NEVER wanting the women in his life to make public displays of themselves like that. The rest of the band didn't get it, Sebastian even said Ted's reaction was "weird".

So, I suppose if your wife is hot (as Sebastian's IS), and you don't mind her getting off with some porno chick in front of a dozen other people, well, I'm sure MTV or VH1 could find something for you two. If not, maybe some pay chanel will.

[Monker]

BTW, I never did see anything with Tommy and Jack. I thought they made a visit and it was supposed to be on the show?

[stmonkeys]

BTW, I never did see anything with Tommy and Jack. I thought they made a visit and it was supposed to be on the show?

they did make a visit. i guess it didn't make the cut though...


as for Supernova.... they have some great people! it's going to be tough. there are 4 i'd eliminate off the bat, but it should be an interesting competition. what makes it even harder, is that this band doesn't have a track record or any songs to compare the vocalists to (unlike INXS).

regardless, it will be a fun show. the guy from toronto who did rebel yell? OMG what planet is he from? loved him though! LOL!

[NealIsGod]

BTW, I never did see anything with Tommy and Jack. I thought they made a visit and it was supposed to be on the show?

they did make a visit. i guess it didn't make the cut though...


as for Supernova.... they have some great people! it's going to be tough. there are 4 i'd eliminate off the bat, but it should be an interesting competition. what makes it even harder, is that this band doesn't have a track record or any songs to compare the vocalists to (unlike INXS).

regardless, it will be a fun show. the guy from toronto who did rebel yell? OMG what planet is he from? loved him though! LOL!

That dude is DEFINITELY not from this planet!

To be honest, I didn't care for any of the singers. Not one. I think the freaky possessed girl will win.

[shaka]

I think the freaky possessed girl absolutely rocked. The others were pedestrian compared to her.

[stmonkeys]

I think the freaky possessed girl absolutely rocked. The others were pedestrian compared to her.

unfortunately i missed her.. (phone call), but my hubby said she was great! she certainly looks like she would fit in. btw- i missed the show last night. what happened???