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Will he do more rock band dates or symphony dates? Which do you perfer?

Jasongarth1 wrote:Will he do more rock band dates or symphony dates? Which do you perfer?

I'm sure he'll being doing both kind, depending on what the promoters want. I know there will be a few more dates on his website, hopefully soon!!

After seeing 20 shows now, I would perfer seeing more Lost Treasures/Rock shows! I'm looking forward to hearing songs that I haven't heard live yet! I still didn't get to hear "I'm Okay"! UGH

Jasongarth1 wrote:Will he do more rock band dates or symphony dates? Which do you perfer?

I would prefer a brand new show to be honest

First I would like to see a Christmas Concert at a small venue in Chicago
It would be unplugged with Dawn Marie and special guest Chuck Pannazzo on the Chello Bass.
Glen Burtnick and Alll In A Days Work also.
It would be called Prima Volta

He would do his Christmas song and many rare songs on the Grand Piano .
I would love to hear Paradise and First Time which is Prima Volta in Italian,
Also Esmerelda and With Every Heart Beat.

As far as concerts its time to add a Horn section and all new songs
No more jokes just great music.

Froy, there's still a LOT of bad blood between Chuck and DDY.

Don't think that's going to get resolved anytime soon..

Jodes wrote:Froy, there's still a LOT of bad blood between Chuck and DDY.

Don't think that's going to get resolved anytime soon..

Does that have anything to do with Chuck being gay?

AnnieOprah wrote:

Jodes wrote:Froy, there's still a LOT of bad blood between Chuck and DDY.
Don't think that's going to get resolved anytime soon..

Does that have anything to do with Chuck being gay?

No, not at all.

No Dennis new about Chuck's sexual preference all along. I don't know what his few of Chuck's medical condition is, but that's his business and none of ours.

It's more of what Dennis did in the early 90's by renegotiating Styx's contracts so that the songwriters would recieved any future royalties.

Hence shutting CP and JP out of a huge chunk of change.

The band would still split tour revenue five ways, but when you only tour once in a seven year period, money gets sort of tight especially when other bandmembers still get royalties!

Unfortunately I believe all the info about the "negotiations" with the band in the early 90's cannot be mentioned now by the band members due to the lawsuit that was settled a few years back.

Again we probably only know the tip o the iceberg when it comes to the relationships in the band.

There is not as much bad blood as one would think between the two. I have talked To Chuck and Chuck really wants Dennis back. He even went as far as saying in an interview after a concert that the door was open for Dennis To Return but he said that the door was shut very fast afterwards. Chuck is very aware of the fans voice about Dennis and wishes he could help. His main concern right now is his and his partner's health.

I think the only bad blood right now is between Jy and Dennis and you probably can tell that from Jy's interviews.

It's more of what Dennis did in the early 90's by renegotiating Styx's contracts so that the songwriters would recieved any future royalties.

And well deserved
Chuck never wrote 1 song
He's lucky he was not replaced for a cheaper bass player
He does not have a leg to stand on.

Hence shutting CP and JP out of a huge chunk of change.

They never deserved any in the first place.

styxfansite wrote:There is not as much bad blood as one would think between the two. I have talked To Chuck and Chuck really wants Dennis back. He even went as far as saying in an interview after a concert that the door was open for Dennis To Return but he said that the door was shut very fast afterwards. Chuck is very aware of the fans voice about Dennis and wishes he could help. His main concern right now is his and his partner's health.

I think the only bad blood right now is between Jy and Dennis and you probably can tell that from Jy's interviews.

Then tell Chuck to get back with Dennis and play some gigs

Dennis Chuck and Glen are Styx
JY and Shaw are not,

styxfansite wrote:There is not as much bad blood as one would think between the two. I have talked To Chuck and Chuck really wants Dennis back. He even went as far as saying in an interview after a concert that the door was open for Dennis To Return but he said that the door was shut very fast afterwards. Chuck is very aware of the fans voice about Dennis and wishes he could help. His main concern right now is his and his partner's health.

I think the only bad blood right now is between Jy and Dennis and you probably can tell that from Jy's interviews.

IMO, the only bad blood is between JY towards Dennis. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dennis and Chuck on the same stage in 2007.

I cannot believe you just said that Froy..

Chuck was "lucky" not to be replaced? Now I have honestly heard it all..

Fan site, when did you talk to Chuck? If he's so chummy with Dennis now, why isn't he performing with him? Dennis played several dates in Florida this year.

Yes I know that Chuck's 1st priority is his health, but I would imagine "Hey Chuck, Dennis's lawyer here, btw, we're suing you in federal court" soured their friendship, I still can't see them being too chumy.

Chuck's name was also part of the lawsuit. Honestly Chuck would have the most to lose since he had two fifths of the Styx name.

I guess at the end of the day it all comes down about money

froy wrote:

It's more of what Dennis did in the early 90's by renegotiating Styx's contracts so that the songwriters would recieved any future royalties.

And well deserved
Chuck never wrote 1 song
He's lucky he was not replaced for a cheaper bass player
He does not have a leg to stand on.

Hence shutting CP and JP out of a huge chunk of change.

They never deserved any in the first place.

I disagree with you Froy. CP & JP deserved the money they received, maybe more, they were part of the band Styx! IMO

Jodes wrote:I cannot believe you just said that Froy..

Chuck was "lucky" not to be replaced? Now I have honestly heard it all..

My point being look at some bands out there
Like The Eagles they dumped a long time member poof gone
Why Money
Many bands do it.
Im not saying he deserved to be dumped .
He just did not deserve to cash in on song royalties,

They never deserved any in the first place.

I disagree with you Froy. CP & JP deserved the money they received, maybe more, they were part of the band Styx! IMO[/quote][/quote]

Im sorry sweatheart but thats how the buisness works
Did the members of Yes deserve royalties for the 90125 cd?
It sold millions they got 0 Trevor Rabin brought all the songs in he got all the money
Only touring cash was split 5 ways.

Same with STYX only touring money gets split
Why should it be any other way>

Froy, a lot of bands have different arrangements regarding royalties. Just because Yes works one way doesn't mean it is the right way to work for all bands. Van Halen split all the royalties equally.

We must remember that Chuck and John were vital parts of Styx including the work they did in the studio. In a band situation there is often a lot of collaboration in the studio.

shaka wrote:Froy, a lot of bands have different arrangements regarding royalties. Just because Yes works one way doesn't mean it is the right way to work for all bands. Van Halen split all the royalties equally.

We must remember that Chuck and John were vital parts of Styx including the work they did in the studio. In a band situation there is often a lot of collaboration in the studio.

I understand but they could have brought in studio musicians to do the same job for almost nothing
Neil Diamond does that
He has his touring band for 30 years but they never as a band made a cd together.

Im not saying that would have been the right thing to do
Just look at BNW they used drum machines and tapes back and forth
The cd was junk because of it.,

That fact is if a songwriter gives the song to a band like say THE FLAME by Cheap Trick
Only the song writer gets most of the money,

I have emilaed Chuck on several occasions. I think the main reason he doesn't want to perform with Dennis is 2 reasons.

1. Dennis nor Dennis's managment has asked him to do a show yet.
2. If Chuck did a show with Dennis, Jy might get uncomfortable about it and say something or do something that might cause more sparks.

Chuck may still feel some ill-will towards Dennis because of the "not talked about lawsuit", but Chuck did bring that on by telling Jy he could find someone else.

I really think Chuck has also forgave him and knew Dennis was doing anything that any other person might have done in his shoes and that is try to save something you worked hard at and enjoyed doing. Styx was part of Dennis's life and it was taken away from him.

If I was in Dennis's shoes I would have done the same thing.

Lets also remember, Chuck designed most of the album covers as well. Chuck and John did a lot more in the band other than play bass and drums. They also were co-founders, which actually started out just them two and then Dennis joined them.

There may or may not be bad blood between Dennis and Chuck, however there is also an extremely long history between the two men. As with any long term relationship, there are going to be areas that will never be completely resolved for either party. Just as there are surely feelings of good that will never completely go away.

The lawsuit was a business decision that we fans have taken extremely personal. Some of us here know more about aspects of it than others, however I doubt any of us knows the whole kit and caboodle. Add to that your own personal bias, and well...you can go anywhere with it. In the end, it changes nothing.

Since Chuck's is not good to say the least, I'd like to see he and Dennis patch things up...even if they never work together again.

Should all this talk of Chuck or Tommy reuniting with Dennis occur...what will JY do? He may own the name...but without either Tommy or Dennis....he's lost his draw.

As to the Panozzo's involvement in the band, I think they deserve a great deal of credit. A band is a band, not one person. However, I also don't fault Dennis for working that deal for himself. Again, it was business. Success is a hard thing to accept without changing. Something I expect they all did. I still wonder what any of us would have done in that position...

Peace

Again, it was business. Success is a hard thing to accept without changing. Something I expect they all did. I still wonder what any of us would have done in that position...

The exact same thing thats what..





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Chuck may still feel some ill-will towards Dennis because of the "not talked about lawsuit", but Chuck did bring that on by telling Jy he could find someone else.

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Chuck brought what on, the lawsuit? Or do you mean Chuck telling JY to find someone to play bass for him during the 99 tour?

If you recall, Chuck was near death at that time and was physically unable to do anything.

I would have to find the article on it, but someone it states that Chuck gave his graces to Jy to find a replacement for Dennis.

styxfansite wrote:There is not as much bad blood as one would think between the two. I have talked To Chuck and Chuck really wants Dennis back. He even went as far as saying in an interview after a concert that the door was open for Dennis To Return but he said that the door was shut very fast afterwards. Chuck is very aware of the fans voice about Dennis and wishes he could help. His main concern right now is his and his partner's health.

I think the only bad blood right now is between Jy and Dennis and you probably can tell that from Jy's interviews.

Does Chuck's partner have AIDS too? If so, that must be incredibly difficult for Chuck - watching out for yourself but then seeing someone you love have to fight it too.

Chuck has had a hard life. Imagine going through those years of being gay in a macho rock band and have to act out that illusion. Didn't it take Tommy a bit of time to get over the fact that Chuck was gay when he found out about it? I always heard that Tommy was afraid that Chuck's homosexuality would ruin the band's image. It was interesting how they did cover things up - look at picture of Dennis in the late 70s and 80s - he never wore a wedding ring.

The last response I got from Chuck, he said that his partner was very ill.

Ouch.. Chuck's had a real run of bad luck when it comes to the people who have been close to him these last 10 years or so. It's hard to lose the ones you love, but to watch them suffer before they finally pass on, that's even worse.

No ,I would not see Dennis with symph,as well, I would not see Sympho Styx either.Too much play by numbers.
If I was to see Dennis ,it would be with him behind the stack of keyboards cranking out great keylicks(in lack of better desription).

styxfansite wrote:The last response I got from Chuck, he said that his partner was very ill.

No disrespect here but why do gay men not use condoms?
If was in a relationship like that I would certainly be smart about it.
Never understood that ,

Well Froy, it's not just a problem with Gay men anymore.

But who knows if Chuck's partner even has HIV/Aids. He could be ill from something else.

It's more then likely he has does have it too, but who knows.

Maybe he did have unsafe sex. Maybe he was one of the unlucky few thousand in North America that got it from tainted blood, or maybe he was a IV drug user.

It's not for us to judge.

froy wrote:

styxfansite wrote:The last response I got from Chuck, he said that his partner was very ill.

No disrespect here but why do gay men not use condoms?
If was in a relationship like that I would certainly be smart about it.
Never understood that ,

probably for the same reason that heterosexual people don't use them.