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LA on Edge

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:12 pm
by Abitaman
Here is a Styx show from LA on the Edge of the Century tour, that I posted on g 101. Glen Burtnick replaced Tommy Shaw on this tour. Here is the link

http://storeandserve.com/download/67..._disk.zip.html


Songs are
Edge of Century
Rockin the Pardise
Love is the Ritual
Best of Times
Snowblind
Sweet Madame Blue
Jy's blues
Homewrecker
Blue Collar Man
Show Me the Way
Too Much Time on My HAnds
World Tonite
Babe
Lady
Miss America
Come Sail Away
Renegade
Not Dead Yet

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:38 pm
by styxfansite
Trying to download and it says file to download is Juniper-M-Series-150008.pdf. I did click on download but there is nothing to download....it says scroll down to download file.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:58 pm
by Abitaman
do not know what probelm is, when I hit it from MR it does go to a jupiter (which isn't mine)
So here is the link to where I have the file at been downloaded 44 times tonight
Try this
http://www.guitars101.com/vb/bootlegs-o ... -edge.html

you can also you the megaupload link too

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=64R6YUBT

ERIC

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:01 pm
by styxfansite
thanks, that worked :)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:08 pm
by Jodes
Cool.. but I have two shows lossless from this tour as well, from Dallas and one from St. Louis.

I'll be sure to download this though!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:16 am
by styxfansite
Listening to this, I thought it was funny how Jy talks about Miss America being nasty or naughty. Are you sure this was from the early 90's and not now :)?


I liked Dennis's speech before Come Sail Away. It sounded like they were haveing fun that night especially when he said that Jy wishes he could watch it. Glen Burtnik singing Tommy's songs was a little weird but they were good. I guess there is another version of "Blue Collar Man" out there now :).

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:33 am
by Abitaman
styxfansite wrote: I guess there is another version of "Blue Collar Man" out there now :).


yes this is version 26 of 40 plus :D

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:45 am
by Abitaman
Jodes wrote:Cool.. but I have two shows lossless from this tour as well, from Dallas and one from St. Louis.

I'll be sure to download this though!


How about sharing one of your shows :D :D :D :D :D :D -ERIC

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:53 am
by styxdudebrandon
Styx without Tommy - That's no Styx at all

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:05 pm
by Abitaman
styxdudebrandon wrote:Styx without Tommy - That's no Styx at all


I know, I know
Styx without Tommy isn't Styx
Styx without Dennis isn't Styx
Styx without JY isn't Styx
Styx without John isn't Styx
Styx without Chuck isn't Styx
Styx without Glen isn't Styx
Styx without Todd isn't Styx
Styx without Larry isn't Styx
Styx without Ricky isn't Styx

And it goes on and on and on........... :D -ERIC

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:06 pm
by styxfanNH
styxdudebrandon wrote:Styx without Tommy - That's no Styx at all


No different than Styx without Dennis

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:13 pm
by Ash
styxfanNH wrote:
styxdudebrandon wrote:Styx without Tommy - That's no Styx at all


No different than Styx without Dennis


I'm glad someone beat me to this.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:35 pm
by styxdudebrandon
styxfanNH wrote:
styxdudebrandon wrote:Styx without Tommy - That's no Styx at all


No different than Styx without Dennis


no, Styx without Dennis I can live with. I would actually HATE IT if Dennis came back to Styx.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:55 pm
by styxfanNH
You've never seen Styx wwith Dennis, how would you know. Their best stuff together was never recorded, it was live.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:35 am
by Jodes
I did post both the audio and video to both the St. Louis and Dallas shows quite some time ago on Dimeadozen.org

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:17 am
by Abitaman
Jodes wrote:I did post both the audio and video to both the St. Louis and Dallas shows quite some time ago on Dimeadozen.org


figures, I can never get onto Dime, make me feel like one of those people that wait out side a nightclub but can't get in because I not cool enough or something like that. :( -ERIC

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:46 am
by Jodes
Let me see what I can do..

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:35 am
by brywool
Great show. I'm listening to it now. GOD- who's the wanker that keeps singing along in the low monotone voice??? I hate that about Bootlegs! Small price to pay... Great to hear some Glen songs that I've never heard live before. World Tonight's a killer track.

I wonder if the same people pissing and moaning about Dennis being replaced by Larry pissed and moaned about Glen replacing Tommy. Interesting to hear Glen's interpretations of Shaw's tunes.

Cool boot, thanks!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:27 am
by bugsymalone
I wonder if the same people pissing and moaning about Dennis being replaced by Larry pissed and moaned about Glen replacing Tommy.


Big difference between replacing someone who left voluntarily (Curulewski and Shaw) and someone who was booted out who did not want to go.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:37 am
by yogi
When Styx did their Edge tour in Minneapolis I had just gotten married and was living in Beaumont, Texas. A buddy of mine had scored third row seats and I flew up there to see my family and attend the show.

Talk about being BLOWN away. Glen was Tommy Shaw X's two that night. It was an AWESOME show!!! They had the fans in their palms all night.

What was weird was as singles Love Is The Ritual had come and gone without too much of a ripple. Show Me The Way had also done pretty much the same thing. But live the fans ate em both up. It wasnt until about a month after the concert that Show Me The Way hit big on it's rerelease. They also played Edge Of The Century, All In A Days Work, World Tonight, Not Dead Yet , and Homewrecker. You got pretty much the entire Edge CD plus most of their other hits.

The day of the concert the St. Paul paper ran an article where Dennis was hyping the concert and the Edge album. In the article he praised the talents of Glen Burtnik. I know hype is hype, but this seemed 100% genuine. He actually compared He and JY finding Glen to when Tommy joined the band. I still have this article somewhere. I left it behind, but my dad mailed it to me a couple of weeks after I got back to Beaumont.

Then 1999 rolls around and Styx and GLEN start bashing Dennis. I remember that I couldnt believe why Glen would bash Dennis after all the GREAT things he had to say about Glen in that article.

At any rate at least Dennis and Glen were BIG enough to put the bad past behind them.

I also own the St. Louis boot of the Edge concert. That rendition of Styx ROCKED!!!! I wonder what would of happened had Son Of Edge been released???

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:59 am
by Jodes
The reason why Glen bashed Dennis was how Dennis treated Glen AFTER he joined the band. By 1992 it was over and done with and Glen really didn't want anything much to do with Dennis for years after.

Hence 1999's "bashings"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:01 am
by Zan
yogi wrote:I remember that I couldnt believe why....




And therein lied the problem. Some people could, some couldn't.


At any rate at least Dennis and Glen were BIG enough to put the bad past behind them.



Yes, enough money has a way of making people bigger.

Furthermore, there were plenty of people who raised Hell over the fact that Tommy had been replaced.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:14 am
by brywool
Good show this. Does anybody have anything from the Cyclo Tour? That was one tour I missed :(

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:07 am
by Abitaman
brywool wrote:Good show this. Does anybody have anything from the Cyclo Tour? That was one tour I missed :(
I have a few, maybe I'll get one or two up in the next week or two-ERIC

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:51 am
by brywool
That'd ROCK Eric. I was always pissed I missed those shows.
SOMEWHERE I have some black and whites of Styx on the Edge tour I took. I will have to dig those out.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:02 am
by Zan
brywool wrote:SOMEWHERE I have some black and whites of Styx on the Edge tour I took. I will have to dig those out.



YES, you do.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:18 am
by rajah2165
Zan wrote:
yogi wrote:I remember that I couldnt believe why....




And therein lied the problem. Some people could, some couldn't.


At any rate at least Dennis and Glen were BIG enough to put the bad past behind them.



Yes, enough money has a way of making people bigger.

Furthermore, there were plenty of people who raised Hell over the fact that Tommy had been replaced.


Yes, I believe it was JY who said, "There's no deoderant like success" when Brave New World came out and all those issues surfaced...obviously the "deoderant" did nothing in that case to rid any of the stink...If anything it was made worse.

Re: LA on Edge

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:23 am
by rajah2165
Abitaman wrote:Here is a Styx show from LA on the Edge of the Century tour, that I posted on g 101. Glen Burtnick replaced Tommy Shaw on this tour. Here is the link

http://storeandserve.com/download/67..._disk.zip.html


Songs are
Edge of Century
Rockin the Pardise
Love is the Ritual
Best of Times
Snowblind
Sweet Madame Blue
Jy's blues
Homewrecker
Blue Collar Man
Show Me the Way
Too Much Time on My HAnds
World Tonite
Babe
Lady
Miss America
Come Sail Away
Renegade
Not Dead Yet


I remember going to this show and thinking it was..ok, but not great.

Obviously, there was no Tommy, but I was disappointed that there was no "Foolin' Yourself" and no "Grand Illusion" as well as neither of the "Kilroy" hits. But yet somehow "Homewrecker" made the set list. I remember saying to myself at the end, "They didn't play anything off Kilroy, no Grand Illusion, no Foolin' Yourself", but they played "Homewrecker"?!?!?! I was also way sick of Snowblind at that point and wish they hadn't played it. But I thought "World Tonite" was out of this world. Also, in the show I saw, they did an acoustic set with "All in A Day's Work" which should have been released as a single after Love At First Sight.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:30 am
by Jodes
Rajah..

All In A Days Work was suppose to be Single #4, Dennis went and tried to get it Released by A&M and they told him flat out "no, and oh btw, even though you sold 430 000 units, we're not pushing the album anymore".

That's when Dennis went shopping elsewhere. When A&M found out they dropped them.

It's also why it took 8 years for the album to finally go Gold. They got the Award shortly after Return To Paradise went Gold and Greatest Hits went Platinum.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:32 am
by Rockwriter
yogi wrote:When Styx did their Edge tour in Minneapolis I had just gotten married and was living in Beaumont, Texas. A buddy of mine had scored third row seats and I flew up there to see my family and attend the show.

Talk about being BLOWN away. Glen was Tommy Shaw X's two that night. It was an AWESOME show!!! They had the fans in their palms all night.

What was weird was as singles Love Is The Ritual had come and gone without too much of a ripple. Show Me The Way had also done pretty much the same thing. But live the fans ate em both up. It wasnt until about a month after the concert that Show Me The Way hit big on it's rerelease. They also played Edge Of The Century, All In A Days Work, World Tonight, Not Dead Yet , and Homewrecker. You got pretty much the entire Edge CD plus most of their other hits.

The day of the concert the St. Paul paper ran an article where Dennis was hyping the concert and the Edge album. In the article he praised the talents of Glen Burtnik. I know hype is hype, but this seemed 100% genuine. He actually compared He and JY finding Glen to when Tommy joined the band. I still have this article somewhere. I left it behind, but my dad mailed it to me a couple of weeks after I got back to Beaumont.

Then 1999 rolls around and Styx and GLEN start bashing Dennis. I remember that I couldnt believe why Glen would bash Dennis after all the GREAT things he had to say about Glen in that article.

At any rate at least Dennis and Glen were BIG enough to put the bad past behind them.

I also own the St. Louis boot of the Edge concert. That rendition of Styx ROCKED!!!! I wonder what would of happened had Son Of Edge been released???



Styx made a huge error when they went in to do EOTC; they owed one album still to A&M and had to return, but they did not negotiate an extension deal before doing the record. They were hoping the album would hit big and they could then go to another label and get a big advance somewhere else like Columbia, because A&M ownership had changed and the people at the label at that time were not connected to Styx' previous success and didn't care that much about them.

EOTC did okay, but not well enough for them to get what they were demanding, especially since grunge came along right about then. Styx was a very expensive and demanding older band, while these new and less expensive young bands were suddenly outselling them six to one. The reality is that if those Son of Edge songs had been released in that marketplace at that time, it likely would have been a miserable failure. Even if they had stayed at A&M, A&M was not that much on board at that time to promote Styx properly, and it takes label support to break a record. And the fan base was quite divided at that time over Tommy not being in the band, so they did not have the full support of the fans at that time, either.

Glen came to feel the way he did about Dennis for the same reason a lot of people who work with him come to feel that way about him . . . he has his good side as well, but he can legitimately be difficult; arrogant, temperamental, demanding, self-involved. Not that unusual in an artist like that, there's a guy like that in every band, and he's almost always the one running the band. But it can be aggravating being stuck with that day in, day out. I think Glen's comments were in response to that, but obviously he has put it aside for the sake of the gig he has now.

I hope all is well.


Sterling