MR

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:02 am**

Hi there,

Read that Tommy had some problems with drugs in the 80s. When was this? Around the Paradise Theater era? What kind of drugs?

Came as a bit of a surprise...

Daniel

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:58 am**

Coke from what I heard. From the latter days of Kilroy to after the What If cd. So 83 to 86? Ambition in 87 finally sounded like a good Shaw cd. Girls was ok, and What If was weak, and thoses two were during his drug days-ERIC

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:42 am**

Tommy refers to the time period as when he was "self medicating". Definitely during the Kilroy era and for some time after. He now says that he has been drug free for about 10 years, if i remember correctly.

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:09 pm**

Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:27 pm**

Zan wrote:Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Oh come now Zan...let's all greet DANiel nicely!

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:43 am**

styxfanNH wrote:Tommy refers to the time period as when he was "self medicating". Definitely during the Kilroy era and for some time after. He now says that he has been drug free for about 10 years, if i remember correctly.

10 years? Does that mean that he was under the influence during the RTP tour? I thought he got clean and sober prior to Ambition which would have been more like 20 years.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:44 am**

Zan wrote:Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Daniel - welcome aboard. Just ignore Zan - I affectionately refer to her as the B.O.B..

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:14 am**

AnnieOprah wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Tommy refers to the time period as when he was "self medicating". Definitely during the Kilroy era and for some time after. He now says that he has been drug free for about 10 years, if i remember correctly.

10 years? Does that mean that he was under the influence during the RTP tour? I thought he got clean and sober prior to Ambition which would have been more like 20 years.

When I saw an interview with him during the Ambition tour he said he did rehab to get off drugs before recording Ambition. I could be wrong, but that is what I seem to remember-ERIC

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:10 am**

i am probably confusing my stories. Either way, it's been awhile

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:49 am**

Angiekay wrote:
Zan wrote:Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Oh come now Zan...let's all greet DANiel nicely!

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:50 am**

gr8dane wrote:
Angiekay wrote:
Zan wrote:Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Oh come now Zan...let's all greet DANiel nicely!

Hi Dan

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:13 am**

styxfanNH wrote:i am probably confusing my stories. Either way, it's been awhile

If I'm not mistaken, his clean date is July 23rd, 1989.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:58 am**

Zan wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:i am probably confusing my stories. Either way, it's been awhile

If I'm not mistaken, his clean date is July 23rd, 1989.

Yeah right....

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:05 am**

rajah2165 wrote:Yeah right....

Oh, I obviously stand corrected. lol

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:23 am**

rajah2165 wrote:
Zan wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:i am probably confusing my stories. Either way, it's been awhile

If I'm not mistaken, his clean date is July 23rd, 1989.

Yeah right....

Definite insight and thoughtfulness in your response. Glad to see you use facts and personal knowledge in the overall debate.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:50 am**

styxfanNH wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:
Zan wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:i am probably confusing my stories. Either way, it's been awhile

If I'm not mistaken, his clean date is July 23rd, 1989.

Yeah right....

Definite insight and thoughtfulness in your response. Glad to see you use facts and personal knowledge in the overall debate.

Like the fact that its pretty well known that he still gets stoned quite frequently...

Or does that not count in the "clean-ness debate"? Is it just about alcohol?

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:42 am**

rajah2165 wrote:Like the fact that its pretty well known that he still gets stoned quite frequently...

Care to offer some proof of this "well-known fact?"

Wait, who am I talking to? The only thing you know how to prove is that you're a moron.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:58 am**

And if he gets stoned now and then?So Effin what?

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:08 am**

Tommy does looks like a stoner these days, anyway.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:56 am**

Zan wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:Like the fact that its pretty well known that he still gets stoned quite frequently...

Care to offer some proof of this "well-known fact?"

Wait, who am I talking to? The only thing you know how to prove is that you're a moron.

Oooh brilliant there...

If your trying to ask me where it is written up in some article, no I can't come up with that given that smoking pot thankfully is still an illegal offense in this country and I doubt he is going to announce that to members of the media...

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:57 am**

gr8dane wrote:And if he gets stoned now and then?So Effin what?

Well when you are out there telling the world how clean and sober you are, it comes off a bit hypocritical..

But then again, Tommy is certainly no stranger to hypocrissy...

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:21 am**

rajah2165 wrote:
gr8dane wrote:And if he gets stoned now and then?So Effin what?

Well when you are out there telling the world how clean and sober you are, it comes off a bit hypocritical..

But then again, Tommy is certainly no stranger to hypocrissy...

OMG!!! I think Dennis once smoked pot and had a taste of some alcohol sometime in 1971! I can't ever listen to anything that man has to say ever again, he is such a bad person for ever doing that. And to even imagine that Dennis ever did something wrong in his life...oh my gosh...I don't know if I could handle that. And Rajah, I am so sorry for having to even type the word pot or alchohol...oh oh my...I will not bow my head in shame.

You don't know squat about Tommy and his personal life. Leave him alone.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:36 am**

rajah2165 wrote:
gr8dane wrote:And if he gets stoned now and then?So Effin what?

Well when you are out there telling the world how clean and sober you are, it comes off a bit hypocritical..

But then again, Tommy is certainly no stranger to hypocrissy...

Oh dear oh dear.
You are so uptight it is almost sad.
I guess wanking is out of the question?

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:32 am**

rajah2165 wrote:If your trying to ask me where it is written up in some article, no I can't come up with that given that smoking pot thankfully is still an illegal offense in this country and I doubt he is going to announce that to members of the media...

And to think I didn't believe you had proof and that you were a moron...

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:58 am**

Angiekay wrote:
Zan wrote:Oh look, a relatively new poster emerging from the shadows asking about Tommy's drug days. How incredibly unexpected.

Oh come now Zan...let's all greet DANiel nicely!

not all of us are 100% up on the dirt from the past. myself included. we are hear to learn as well as speak.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:14 pm**

Zan wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:If your trying to ask me where it is written up in some article, no I can't come up with that given that smoking pot thankfully is still an illegal offense in this country and I doubt he is going to announce that to members of the media...

And to think I didn't believe you had proof and that you were a moron...

Zan you really are a clueless wonder, aren't you... what I meant was that you aren't going to find "a source" (i.e. article, interview, etc.) that you are demanding because he ain't going to talk about it on the record - and neither is anyone else associated with the band or the organization...

But talk to anyone associated with the band off the record...and they will fill you in...

Oh wait, you are just a fan who likes to think she knows more than she actually does...so scratch that..no one is going to fill you in..

So, just keep believing in your delusions, ok?

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:16 pm**

Grotelul wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:
gr8dane wrote:And if he gets stoned now and then?So Effin what?

Well when you are out there telling the world how clean and sober you are, it comes off a bit hypocritical..

But then again, Tommy is certainly no stranger to hypocrissy...

OMG!!! I think Dennis once smoked pot and had a taste of some alcohol sometime in 1971! I can't ever listen to anything that man has to say ever again, he is such a bad person for ever doing that. And to even imagine that Dennis ever did something wrong in his life...oh my gosh...I don't know if I could handle that. And Rajah, I am so sorry for having to even type the word pot or alchohol...oh oh my...I will not bow my head in shame.

You don't know squat about Tommy and his personal life. Leave him alone.

The denseness here amazes me...You don't even get my point. It has nothing to do with DeYoung at all...

Its about TS's hypocrissy - Its one thing to tell the world you are clean and sober and another to really be that way...

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:31 pm**

rajah2165 wrote:He is stoned all the time...talk to anyone associated with the band and they will fill you in.

And who exactly have you talked to, anonymous one?

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:36 pm**

rajah2165 wrote:Oh wait, you are just a fan who likes to think she knows more than she actually does...so scratch that..no one is going to fill you in..

That was the most pathetic exhibit of backpeddling I have ever seen.

Posted: **Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:40 pm**

ohsosoto wrote:not all of us are 100% up on the dirt from the past. myself included. we are hear to learn as well as speak.

No, not all of us are.

MR

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