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This from Chuck's Blog at http://www.chuckpanozzosblog.com/

I've been back with Styx since late 1999. I have never seen Tommy
smoke or drink.
Styx feels no pressure from any former band members. Time moves on !


Thanks

Is Chuck reading this site?

Yepp

Did Tommy ever smoked? I thought he did.

styxfanNH wrote:Is Chuck reading this site?

I think the 02/01/07 entry made that pretty clear.

kmd2009 wrote:Did Tommy ever smoked? I thought he did.

"Since 1999" seems to be the implication.

kmd2009 wrote:Did Tommy ever smoked? I thought he did.

He did smoke at one time.

styxfansite wrote:This from Chuck's Blog at http://www.chuckpanozzosblog.com/

I've been back with Styx since late 1999. I have never seen Tommy
smoke or drink.
Styx feels no pressure from any former band members. Time moves on !

You will feel the pressure soon Chuck when Dennis puts out his new cd
It will close the coffin on your farse of a band
You guys always have to mention Dennis in everything thing you do.
That alone tells me you have no clue of what you are doing.

I hope your happy with what you have done to Styx my friend.

Hi Chuck!
Please Get Glenn Back in the band. He can play guitar, I don't care, I just want his songs with this band.
Thanks man!



Froy, you've got to be kidding...
What CHUCK did?? Maybe had Dennis been a bit more democratic
instead of heavy handed and more into rock and the band when it
counted, things would've been different. He wanted to go do Broadway
and didn't want to tour and didn't want to do a new STYX record.
HOW can you say that it wasn't his fault for what happened?
I don't get that.

Froy, you've got to be kidding...
What CHUCK did??

Yes what Judas did.

Maybe had Dennis been a bit more democratic
instead of heavy handed

Then they would be the band they are today crap.

and more into rock

Yea like California Dreaming
Enough of this rock and roll crap
Dennis will Rock you soon enough .

He wanted to go do Broadway

And his Hunchback cd is fantastic.

and didn't want to tour

Who wants to tour and never stop ?
Not me.

froy wrote:

Froy, you've got to be kidding...
What CHUCK did??

Yes what Judas did.

Maybe had Dennis been a bit more democratic
instead of heavy handed

Then they would be the band they are today crap.

and more into rock

Yea like California Dreaming
Enough of this rock and roll crap
Dennis will Rock you soon enough .

He wanted to go do Broadway

And his Hunchback cd is fantastic.

and didn't want to tour

Who wants to tour and never stop ?
Not me.

The funny thing...
If DennislessStyx had put out 'Hunchbag'note for note, it would have been shite.
And if Dennis had put out 'These are the times'NFN, it would have been a revelation.

froy wrote:

styxfansite wrote:This from Chuck's Blog at http://www.chuckpanozzosblog.com/

I've been back with Styx since late 1999. I have never seen Tommy
smoke or drink.
Styx feels no pressure from any former band members. Time moves on !

You will feel the pressure soon Chuck when Dennis puts out his new cd
It will close the coffin on your farse of a band
You guys always have to mention Dennis in everything thing you do.
That alone tells me you have no clue of what you are doing.

I hope your happy with what you have done to Styx my friend.

The guys in the current Styx are enjoying what they are doing. It doesn't matter what you and especially you or anyone else thinks. If Dennis is happy doing what he is doing, good for him. Sounds like both camps are pretty happy. Why you decide you must crap on them, who knows. Must be a problem deep within you that you can't resolve.

Well, I'm a MR junie, but I haven't participated in the forums since 2003. I'm glad to see Froy hasn't changed his marketing strategy. Consise, and to the point. Froy, I'm a huge supporter of DDY, and his solo career...Styx isn't really Styx without him...but since that's never going to happen, I say, why not enjoy the party anyway? Tommy's the man, that's for sure. He can sing his ass off even in his 50's.

brywool wrote:Froy, you've got to be kidding...
What CHUCK did?? Maybe had Dennis been a bit more democratic
instead of heavy handed and more into rock and the band when it
counted, things would've been different. He wanted to go do Broadway
and didn't want to tour and didn't want to do a new STYX record.
HOW can you say that it wasn't his fault for what happened?
I don't get that.

Every band needs one guy who is the leader in one way or another. For many years - right or wrong - DDY filled that role. If you saw the legal agreements which were available before they closed the lawsuit, Styx was much more democratic than you think at least in the 80s. Trust me on that. Did the success of "Babe" change the course of the band? Absolutely, but I also didn't see anyone publicly making a fuss between 1979 and 1983 when the money was rolling in. Same thing with "Roboto" - you can say it alienated people but it also brought people to Styx.

So I don't think it's a matter of not wanting to rock at all. It's a problem that these guys have 30 - 40 years of history together which is good and bad. They've seen high highs and low lows together. Heck, most marriages these days end in divorce. Why should Styx be any different than other bands of its era. Rush is the exception, not the rule.

When it came time to choose "sides" in 1999, what was Chuck going to do? He could either bow out completely, maybe go play with Dennis, or show up and play for lots of adoring fans over the years with Styx. I do not find fault with anything Chuck decided to do. Whatever he may think privately about all of the Styx stuff and how things went down with DDY are not my problem, nor should anyone obsess about it. The man is HIV+ and leads an active lifestyle. I'm glad he's still around, even if he only plays a few songs on certain shows. Geddy Lee he is not, but what he did for Styx was perfect.

I mean, what would YOU do in that situation? So I can see those who will criticize Chuck - I get their position. However, we are speculating on a situation that we were never directly involved with as fans. I can't be bothered hating Chuck because he plays and/or sided with Styx (maybe he doesn't ... don't know; not my concern really). Just be thankful he's still around to contribute to various Styx projects even if you don't like the current lineup of Styx.

StyxCollector wrote:I mean, what would YOU do in that situation? So I can see those who will criticize Chuck - I get their position. However, we are speculating on a situation that we were never directly involved with as fans. I can't be bothered hating Chuck because he plays and/or sided with Styx (maybe he doesn't ... don't know; not my concern really). Just be thankful he's still around to contribute to various Styx projects even if you don't like the current lineup of Styx.

I appreciate the well-reasoned argument you are making, Allan...but I think that ultimately, you're trying to rationalize the irrational. There's a reason why the word "Judas" is being bandied about by some folks here, and not just because it's cultural shorthand for "traitor."

stabbim wrote:I appreciate the well-reasoned argument you are making, Allan...but I think that ultimately, you're trying to rationalize the irrational. There's a reason why the word "Judas" is being bandied about by some folks here, and not just because it's cultural shorthand for "traitor."

That was kinda my point ... people are going to think what they want. It's completely irrational to have hatred for Chuck. Chuck plays with Styx therefore he is evil - cut me a break. It's easy to call him a Judas from the outside. We think we know what happened, but do we really? No.

Was Chuck named in the lawsuit? Yes. However, I think anyone who has 1/2 a brain see it was more of a fight between DDY and TS/JY than Chuck per se. Did Chuck "choose a side"? Yes. In the end, Chuck made whatever choices (and they may become more clear in his book) made sense to him. Can't fault him - and I'm not siding with anyone. I would make a choice that made sense to me if I was put in his shoes.

At this rate, let's ask why Styx chose to record and release "Babe" and ponder that. Same kind of irrational type of argument - decisions are made that make sense to the party (or parties) involved. Would JY and TS go back and revisit that now? Maybe, but it also brought them a lot of fame and fortune in 1979/1980 and beyond.

We can't change history. 1999 happened. It's 2007. People need to get over it.

StyxCollector wrote:We can't change history. 1999 happened. It's 2007. People need to get over it.

Ayup.