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http://retrolowfi.com/2007/02/08/let-it ... n-the-act/

If you take this too seriously, you're way too wound up.

2. At 1:25 in this clip, James Young - the guy who is portraying the impossibly flaming Dr. Righteous - actually walks up behind Tommy Shaw and pinches his ass. It’s clear as day, so those homosexual overtones can’t just be my imagination.

I always wanted to know what made Tommy jump like he did in the video. I knew Jy did something to him...

The reviews at the bottom are good to read especially fighting over the permissions of posting on youtube .

Spot on.

By this guy's standards I would probably be considered a "Styx Apologist," and I love KWH/CITA in a nostalgic kind of way, but I'll happily concede that conceptual side of it all is, to use his word, "hideous."

Found the "plot hole" comments very amusing, especially all the stuff about Righteous invading the gig ("He [Kilroy] was right there." Heh.)

It's been many years since I've seen the intro film; from a purely cinematic pov, it holds up really well and has much higher production values than the source material deserves.

The "What Not To Do To Your Roboto" thing is supposed to be campy and nonsensical, of course, but when mixed in with the painfully earnest "Long live Rock'N'Roll!" stuff, it's hard to discern what's meant ironically and what isn't, and it all ends up in Rocky Horror territory whether intended that way or not.

Finally:

some guy from the 'comments' section wrote:Dennis DeYoung’s original version of Kilroy was a much deeper and intellectual one but he had to dummy it up so as to make sure the general audience understood it in the time restraints of the show.

Now that's comedy.


Off to kick some robot scrotum in the name of freedom....

My problem with CITA is that when you get the whole concert - and not the edited down version to make the 90 minute tape - there's more Styx music and the pacing and such makes more sense. The whole thing was 2/2+ hours, and in watching it now, the edits aren't great.

CITA has always been a guilty pleasure of mine and I know it's touched up in the studio vocally, but that version of CSA - even though there are better out there - still is my favorite. Call me sentimental

stabbim wrote:Spot on.

By this guy's standards I would probably be considered a "Styx Apologist," and I love KWH/CITA in a nostalgic kind of way, but I'll happily concede that conceptual side of it all is, to use his word, "hideous."

Found the "plot hole" comments very amusing, especially all the stuff about Righteous invading the gig ("He [Kilroy] was right there." Heh.)

omg, I *actually* peed my pants laughing (of course, at 6 months pregnant, that's not entirely difficult to accomplish). It started with the description of the female Styx fan who found "Half Penny" on the record, and went from there. By far the most entertaining review I've ever read. Holy sh*t.

Finally:

some guy from the 'comments' section wrote:Dennis DeYoung’s original version of Kilroy was a much deeper and intellectual one but he had to dummy it up so as to make sure the general audience understood it in the time restraints of the show.

Now that's comedy.

Too freakin' much for me tonight! LMAO

StyxCollector wrote:My problem with CITA is that when you get the whole concert - and not the edited down version to make the 90 minute tape - there's more Styx music and the pacing and such makes more sense. The whole thing was 2/2+ hours, and in watching it now, the edits aren't great.

CITA has always been a guilty pleasure of mine and I know it's touched up in the studio vocally, but that version of CSA - even though there are better out there - still is my favorite. Call me sentimental

Didn't they record back to back shows in New Orleans and kind of throw the best audio in with the video? The audio and video are not matched in a lot of spots. Some parts are so obvious that there are a few times John Panozzo looks like he's air drumming. Back then I thought the whole thing was great but it has not aged well for me.

Grotelul wrote:Didn't they record back to back shows in New Orleans and kind of throw the best audio in with the video? The audio and video are not matched in a lot of spots. Some parts are so obvious that there are a few times John Panozzo looks like he's air drumming. Back then I thought the whole thing was great but it has not aged well for me.

They did record multiple nights at the Pantages but ... umm ... hate to break it to you but that "live" album is about as live as my last studio project. It is very retouched and fixed.

StyxCollector wrote:

Grotelul wrote:Didn't they record back to back shows in New Orleans and kind of throw the best audio in with the video? The audio and video are not matched in a lot of spots. Some parts are so obvious that there are a few times John Panozzo looks like he's air drumming. Back then I thought the whole thing was great but it has not aged well for me.

They did record multiple nights at the Pantages but ... umm ... hate to break it to you but that "live" album is about as live as my last studio project. It is very retouched and fixed.

Well, I hate to break it to you, but this one was done poorly. lol

I agree with Grote. This hasn't aged well for me either. There was a time (when I was 13 or 14) when I thought the whole concept and concert was brilliant. I've seen it twice in the last five years, and I can honestly say that all I can do now is laugh uncomfortably at most of it.

Zan wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Grotelul wrote:Didn't they record back to back shows in New Orleans and kind of throw the best audio in with the video? The audio and video are not matched in a lot of spots. Some parts are so obvious that there are a few times John Panozzo looks like he's air drumming. Back then I thought the whole thing was great but it has not aged well for me.

They did record multiple nights at the Pantages but ... umm ... hate to break it to you but that "live" album is about as live as my last studio project. It is very retouched and fixed.

Well, I hate to break it to you, but this one was done poorly. lol

I agree with Grote. This hasn't aged well for me either. There was a time (when I was 13 or 14) when I thought the whole concept and concert was brilliant. I've seen it twice in the last five years, and I can honestly say that all I can do now is laugh uncomfortably at most of it.

I guess I might be the only one to say this "outloud", I watch this probably once every 2 weeks or so. What can I say I guess I am a TRUE Styx Fan as the comment said. .

StyxCollector wrote:They did record multiple nights at the Pantages but ... umm ... hate to break it to you but that "live" album is about as live as my last studio project. It is very retouched and fixed.

Well, as Zan said, it's a shame that for all that reconstructive surgery, it's still not very good. Ironic that RTP, despite having had less of that, is the superior recording. (A decade and change of technological improvement to mobile studios notwithstanding, there's just no replacement for a band which is healthy, focused, and firing on all cylinders...something that CITA is painfully missing.)

Grotelul wrote:I guess I might be the only one to say this "outloud", I watch this probably once every 2 weeks or so. What can I say I guess I am a TRUE Styx Fan as the comment said.

I haven't seen it in several years (see above comment about later recordings being far better) but I still like it for what it is, which is my first exposure to Styx live. For a 2nd-gen fan who got into the band a few years before the Internet made ROIO trading more practical, there just wasn't a whole lot of documentation on them beyond the liner notes on the records. Even as a kid I knew the concept was silly, but it was a small price to pay for getting to see "Come Sail Away" or "Renegade" played live.

They did record multiple nights at the Pantages but ... umm ... hate to break it to you but that "live" album is about as live as my last studio project. It is very retouched and fixed.[/quote]

The Pantages is in Hollywood. I believe the album (and video) was at the Saengar (sp?) Theatre in New Orleans.


Cinj

OMG, was that not hilarious? I love the Boys, but damn, that was one funny review................

cinj wrote:The Pantages is in Hollywood. I believe the album (and video) was at the Saengar (sp?) Theatre in New Orleans.

Correct. My goof.

Zan wrote:Well, I hate to break it to you, but this one was done poorly. lol

I don't disagree with you. I do plenty of stuff in recording studios and it was done poorly. That in some weird way is the charm for me. It's a flat live album - there's no real life to some of it. RTP is definitely a better live album in terms of production, but CITA is what it is.

StyxCollector wrote:but CITA is what it is.

Well, that we can agree on. LOL!

Like I've said before, the Kilroy shows that I went to, the crowd enjoyed the shows. It was pretty obvious.

I agree with StyxCollector. Kilroy is a guilty pleasure of mine, but RTP is MUCH better and the band was much more on top of their game in 1996.

As far as the 'person' that wrote that article on CITA, I beleive all music critics have way "Too much time on their hands". Maybe he should go back to reading his useless "Rolling Stone" magazine or listening to his "Clash" records.

Jimmy