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I AM NOT RIPPING DENNIS BUT.......

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:18 pm
by yogi
I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??

Re: I AM NOT RIPPING DENNIS BUT.......

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:26 pm
by GrandIllusionist725
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


I don't feel this way but i do see what you are saying. I can listen to Tommy and Glen cover to cover BUT i can also listen to Dennis cover to cover. I can see where it's difficult, i guess it has to be the ballads non stop while Tommy and Glen can keep you rockin'. I love it all, the one person i have not experimented with is JY and his solo stuff. Im sure thats all interesting there.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:23 pm
by Zan
yogi wrote:With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??




LOL...I do! (And be prepared to be accused of ripping Dennis now)

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:44 pm
by bugsymalone
Hey, Yogs. I, DDY fan that I am, am with you on this. But with a caveat. There is not a single album by any artist I can think of where I can listen to every single song an an album/CD without skipping or, in the old days, fast forwarding. Not one. And that includes my favorite Classic Styx and all of my favorite artists. There are always one, two, and usually more songs on a recording that I am sort of meh about, or actively dislike, and I usually don't listen. And that includes DDY.

So, I make compilation CD's, and then I get an entire CD worth of music that I love. :D

Bugsy

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:05 pm
by froy
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


You must be on crack if you can listen to What IF all the way through
Or Girls With Guns
I can listen to Desert Moon all the way
Back To The World also

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:21 pm
by yogi
Thats not what I wrote froyster. Although I can listen to Welcome To Hollywood and Seven Deadly Zens from cover to cover. I am NOT comparing their individual albums. What I am saying is :

I can burn a CD of all Tommy Shaw songs ( Girls With Guns, Zens, Ambition, What If) and listen to it over and over on a drive. I can do the same with Glen ( Hollywood, Retrospectacle, Pallokaville) with Dennis I cant do it. After about 5 to 6 straight DDY songs no matter what song Ive got to put on something else. I dont know why Its' just the way it is.

As for What If.......................... Brutal CD minus Nature Of The Beast.


Now go print a T shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!



How much more does one of your all cotton T shirts cost vs the 50/50 Cotton Poly T?????

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:11 am
by styxfanNH
Is Froy still making STYNX shirts or are they the leftovers from last years liquidation?

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:00 am
by Ash
yogi wrote:P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!



Try sitting through any two songs in a row on any JY solo record. I'd almost prefer the gas chamber. Out On A Day pass is SO bad, I sold it on Amazon and didn't even rip it to my iTunes before I did it. THAT is how bad that wasted plastic is.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:46 am
by yogi
I couldnt agree more about Day Pass.

Although Young Man is worth burning before Day Pass graces the City landfill.

Who was the poor sap who purchased Day Pass from you???

Just for you Ash..... its a trip down memory lane.

You have just purchased your Ou On A DAy Pass CD. You are viewing JY in all his glory taking that giant leap on the CD cover, guitar outstretched knees bent. The anticipation is grooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwing.

You open the disc cover and their before your eyes is a sight that you never thought you would see again it is..........

the Brady Bunch Dog Tiger . The last time you saw Tiger he was chasing Fluffy at the Brady wedding.

No I am sorry its not Tiger but it's JY that is staring at you.

Your new disc now enters your CD player Top Of The World will be a massive hit you think????

Next up it's Maggie Can it get any better??????????

You just know that Toys For American Boys will knock Pearl Jam from the ranks of the ever popular.

then comes the the popular Dark Side chapter of the CD: The Contrary Nature Of Man

JY's CD now has you TOTALLY entranced

Out On A Day Pass rips thru your brain

Before you know it Doctor On Call and Young Man are over, Then comes the GREATEST closer ever recorded:

The Bigger They Are The Harder They Fall.


Best Money you ever spent!!!!!!

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:45 am
by Ash
yogi wrote:Who was the poor sap who purchased Day Pass from you???



I dunno - but it cost him 40 bucks. Which is almost a full day's wage on a McDonald's salary.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:14 am
by ManOfMiracles
I have to admit, I have the uncanny ability to listen to almost anything all the way through. But then, I have the luxury of listening to my own music 8 to 10 hours a day, so I'm not worried about squandering my music-time (no pun intended). That aside, I can listen to Dannis CD's all the way through effortlessly. I was gonna joke that I even make it through Out on a Day Pass... but I saw everyone jumped in on that one already.

C'mon, everyone, sing along with me... out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out I'm hoping it's a-gonna last... :wink:

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:25 am
by Abitaman
yogi wrote:

P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!





Love Boys will be Boys, Please and Fire. I usually crank them up, heck usually that whole cd, kinda skip Dear Darling about half the time-ERIC

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:29 am
by Abitaman
Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!



Try sitting through any two songs in a row on any JY solo record. I'd almost prefer the gas chamber. Out On A Day pass is SO bad, I sold it on Amazon and didn't even rip it to my iTunes before I did it. THAT is how bad that wasted plastic is.


Out on a Day Pass is one of the worse cds I have ever owned-ERIC

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:53 am
by bugsymalone
Not a fan of Boys Will Be Boys (or First Time).

"Fire" (or Fahyuh) -- Whatever one make think of Dennis tackling Hendrix, is a vocal tour de force. His range on that song is astonishing.

"Please" is a powerhouse duet with a really great vocalist, Rosemary Butler. It took me awhile to start liking this one, but I love it now.

Bugsy

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:58 am
by Grotelul
froy wrote:
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


You must be on crack if you can listen to What IF all the way through
Or Girls With Guns
I can listen to Desert Moon all the way
Back To The World also



Back To The World....Call Me? Ugh...some of those are absolute garbarge. For the most part Desert Moon was good but there are a few I avoid...Fire? OMG..that is the weakest version of that song I have ever heard. As bad as Jim Nabors doing Hendrix. The only thing I can swallow from JY's albums is some stuff off his JYG album. I would put Girls With Guns as a whole on level with Desert Moon. Ambition is a good album...better than anything else DDY put out as a solo other than Desert Moon.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:00 pm
by froy

I can burn a CD of all Tommy Shaw songs ( Girls With Guns, Zens, Ambition, What If) and listen to it over and over on a drive. I can do the same with Glen ( Hollywood, Retrospectacle, Pallokaville) with Dennis I cant do it. After about 5 to 6 straight DDY songs no matter what song Ive got to put on something else. I dont know why Its' just the way it is.


Your not trying hard enough

Shall I do it for you,

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:03 pm
by froy
Abitaman wrote:
yogi wrote:

P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!





Love Boys will be Boys, Please and Fire. I usually crank them up, heck usually that whole cd, kinda skip Dear Darling about half the time-ERIC


Boy Will Be Boys Kicks ass
Hidin My Playboys under my bed
Centerfold dreams dancin in my heaead

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:15 pm
by Grotelul
froy wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
yogi wrote:

P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!





Love Boys will be Boys, Please and Fire. I usually crank them up, heck usually that whole cd, kinda skip Dear Darling about half the time-ERIC


Boy Will Be Boys Kicks ass
Hidin My Playboys under my bed
Centerfold dreams dancin in my heaead



Tell me I'm not reading "Boys Will Be Boys kicks ass". You are kidding....you have to be otherwise I am truly going to be sick. Dennis Lauper.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:29 pm
by Zan
Grotelul wrote:
froy wrote:Boy Will Be Boys Kicks ass
Hidin My Playboys under my bed
Centerfold dreams dancin in my heaead



Tell me I'm not reading "Boys Will Be Boys kicks ass". You are kidding....you have to be otherwise I am truly going to be sick. Dennis Lauper.




He's not kidding, but doesn't it explain a lot?

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:39 pm
by froy

Boy Will Be Boys Kicks ass
Hidin My Playboys under my bed
Centerfold dreams dancin in my heaead



Tell me I'm not reading "Boys Will Be Boys kicks ass". You are kidding....you have to be otherwise I am truly going to be sick. Dennis Lauper.[/quote][/quote]

Great fun song the story of my childhood
Im thinking of making a video for it

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:27 pm
by StyxCollector
I can get through all of DDY's albums in a single shot. I don't listen to them often, but when I do, I don't need to flip around. That doesn't mean I think every song is the best or absolutely love songs like "Boys Will Be Boys", but I have an easier time digesting that over a good portion of Tommy's solo catalog. The only TS album I can get through end-to-end in one shot is Girls With Guns.

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:09 am
by yogi
Froy's excuse # 3,481 for whipping out his old Playboys.


Get after that video Spanky!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:36 am
by AnnieOprah
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


My theory on this (for what its worth)..

In general, Dennis has more great individual song moments. He is the guy that writes the legendary songs...but writes quite a few clunkers to get to those legendary songs...

Tommy in general writes decent songs for the most part, but is very difficult for him to get one in the "legendary" category. But he writes far fewer songs where you scratch your head and say "What was he thinking?"

To use a baseball (or cricket!) analogy....Dennis is the power hitter that hits home-runs, but also strikes out a lot...Tommy is a solid singles and doubles hitter who makes good contact with the ball, seldom strikes out, but also doesn't hit many home runs..

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:29 am
by bugsymalone
My theory on this (for what its worth)..

In general, Dennis has more great individual song moments. He is the guy that writes the legendary songs...but writes quite a few clunkers to get to those legendary songs...

Tommy in general writes decent songs for the most part, but is very difficult for him to get one in the "legendary" category. But he writes far fewer songs where you scratch your head and say "What was he thinking?"

To use a baseball (or cricket!) analogy....Dennis is the power hitter that hits home-runs, but also strikes out a lot...Tommy is a solid singles and doubles hitter who makes good contact with the ball, seldom strikes out, but also doesn't hit many home runs..


I like this! :D

Bugsy

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:03 am
by rajah2165
AnnieOprah wrote:
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


My theory on this (for what its worth)..

In general, Dennis has more great individual song moments. He is the guy that writes the legendary songs...but writes quite a few clunkers to get to those legendary songs...

Tommy in general writes decent songs for the most part, but is very difficult for him to get one in the "legendary" category. But he writes far fewer songs where you scratch your head and say "What was he thinking?"

To use a baseball (or cricket!) analogy....Dennis is the power hitter that hits home-runs, but also strikes out a lot...Tommy is a solid singles and doubles hitter who makes good contact with the ball, seldom strikes out, but also doesn't hit many home runs..


No, you are only half right. Tommy writes some seriously bad songs..let's start with the entire What If album..

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:57 am
by stabbim
rajah2165 wrote:Tommy writes some seriously bad songs..let's start with the entire What If album..



"Reach For The Bottle" says hello. (One of his Top 10 of all time, IMO)

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:29 am
by Abitaman
rajah2165 wrote:
AnnieOprah wrote:
yogi wrote:I have ALWAYS stated that I felt Dennis Deyoung was the true superstar in Styx. Tommy was the star, JY was above average and the Panozzo brothers made up the rest of the team. When Tommy was in Damn Yankees Glen became the star with Dennis still the superstar of the group.

With that said, why is it that I can listen to a Tommy Shaw or Glen Burtnik CD from cover to cover and completely enjoy it. I can do this without having to pause or take a break. When it comes to Dennis I cant listen to song after song of just him. I dont think that I have ever been able to listen to his Ultimate Collection straight thru or his Symphony CD.

I like the majority of the music but I just cant listen to him non stop.

Does anyone else feel this way??


My theory on this (for what its worth)..

In general, Dennis has more great individual song moments. He is the guy that writes the legendary songs...but writes quite a few clunkers to get to those legendary songs...

Tommy in general writes decent songs for the most part, but is very difficult for him to get one in the "legendary" category. But he writes far fewer songs where you scratch your head and say "What was he thinking?"

To use a baseball (or cricket!) analogy....Dennis is the power hitter that hits home-runs, but also strikes out a lot...Tommy is a solid singles and doubles hitter who makes good contact with the ball, seldom strikes out, but also doesn't hit many home runs..


No, you are only half right. Tommy writes some seriously bad songs..let's start with the entire What If album..



What if is when Tommy was drugged up, maybe could have been better-ERIC

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:00 pm
by DerriD
I picked up 'Out on a Day Pass' new for like $8. It didn't even make a complete play through the entire album before I shelved it for good. If anyone would like to pay $40 for it, I'd gladly give it up. Looks like brand new, only been opened once and some songs have never even seen a reading laser! :D

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:44 am
by pinkfloyd1973
Abitaman wrote:
Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:P.S. Anyone who can sit thru Boys Will Be Boys, Fire & Please deserves to be President of DDY's fan club!!! You have got my vote!!!



Try sitting through any two songs in a row on any JY solo record. I'd almost prefer the gas chamber. Out On A Day pass is SO bad, I sold it on Amazon and didn't even rip it to my iTunes before I did it. THAT is how bad that wasted plastic is.


Out on a Day Pass is one of the worse cds I have ever owned-ERIC





I think I still have it on tape somewhere at my mom's house lmao :lol:




Robin :wink:

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:48 am
by pinkfloyd1973
I can listen to the Boomchild album and his Ultimate Collection all the way through :wink:




Robin :)