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Here's the start of a new "assembly line". What if kevin cronin/gary richrath of reo fame had been in styx and tommy/dennis had been in reo? What would be different? What would be the same? Would both "classic" line ups still be intact today? I wanted this to be my last post before I go out of town for the next few weeks to stir up more healthy controversy from me. See ya in september.

Nobody cares... get lost.

Styx would have had less tension with Gary than with JY. Other than that, same results because basically the same bands with switched rhythm sections.

Thenightbull wrote:Here's the start of a new "assembly line". What if kevin cronin/gary richrath of reo fame had been in styx and tommy/dennis had been in reo? What would be different? What would be the same? Would both "classic" line ups still be intact today? I wanted this to be my last post before I go out of town for the next few weeks to stir up more healthy controversy from me. See ya in september.

Enjoy your break.I think it will do you good.(By the way ,I do not agree with your ehh wanky attitude at herrn d's show,But we all make an ass ourselves sometimes)
When you come back,be a good boy or girl like the rest of us.
If ever in doubt , you can always ask rajah ,darwin or froy if you are stepping over the line.
They certainly never do, and will be a big help.

What if Dennis, once he was kicked out of Styx - when the "naming rights" were still being bandied about in potential litigation - formed his OWN version of "new Styx" with someone like Sammy Hagar - or someone out of left field like Ted Nugent (tak about irony) - or formed a weird super group with his friend Gene Simmons - or his other friend Jim Peterik - or Billy Corrigan?

I always thought Dennis should have conned Lenny Kravitz into joining him in Styx 2.5.

Dennis, Steve Perry, Barry White and Danny Bonaduce from the Partridge family got together and formed a Barbershop quartet ?
do you think they would be popular ?

or what if John Lennon was still alive ? would Styx have put a different cut on Cyclorama in the place of "killing the thing that you love" ???

or Dennis, Paul Mc Cartney David Gilmour, Don Henley and Slash formed a band ?

would they call it Beatle-styx-floyd-eagles and roses ????????? and how many lawyers couls make a living sorting all THAT out ????

classicstyxfan wrote:Dennis, Steve Perry, Barry White and Danny Bonaduce from the Partridge family got together and formed a Barbershop quartet ?
do you think they would be popular ?

or what if John Lennon was still alive ? would Styx have put a different cut on Cyclorama in the place of "killing the thing that you love" ???

or Dennis, Paul Mc Cartney David Gilmour, Don Henley and Slash formed a band ?

would they call it Beatle-styx-floyd-eagles and roses ????????? and how many lawyers couls make a living sorting all THAT out ????

personally, i always thought Pete Townshend, Roger Daltry, Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr should've gotten together to form The WHOTLES

The Whotles !!!!!!!!!

I wish I'd have thought of that one

classicstyxfan wrote:The Whotles !!!!!!!!!

I wish I'd have thought of that one

yeah, i know. i was thinking of trademarking it.

DerriD wrote:Styx would have had less tension with Gary than with JY. Other than that, same results because basically the same bands with switched rhythm sections.

I have to disagree. Gary and Dennis have never, ever gotten along (at least, Gary has never liked Dennis . . . I don't know if it goes both ways), not to mention that Gary had/continues to have a substance abuse problem that makes Tommy Shaw's past troubles seem like a church picnic. Plus Gary is a stronger writer than JY and would have been more likely to give Dennis a real run for his money, which only could have led to more ego/money/control battles. I think the tension would have been much, much more with him in the band, honestly. Of course, Gary is basically toast now, sadly.


Sterling

Rockwriter wrote:

DerriD wrote:Styx would have had less tension with Gary than with JY. Other than that, same results because basically the same bands with switched rhythm sections.

I have to disagree. Gary and Dennis have never, ever gotten along (at least, Gary has never liked Dennis . . . I don't know if it goes both ways), not to mention that Gary had/continues to have a substance abuse problem that makes Tommy Shaw's past troubles seem like a church picnic. Plus Gary is a stronger writer than JY and would have been more likely to give Dennis a real run for his money, which only could have led to more ego/money/control battles. I think the tension would have been much, much more with him in the band, honestly. Of course, Gary is basically toast now, sadly.


Sterling

I knew about the substance abuse problems, but not the dislike. Nice to have guys around here that do their research.

DerriD wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:

DerriD wrote:Styx would have had less tension with Gary than with JY. Other than that, same results because basically the same bands with switched rhythm sections.

I have to disagree. Gary and Dennis have never, ever gotten along (at least, Gary has never liked Dennis . . . I don't know if it goes both ways), not to mention that Gary had/continues to have a substance abuse problem that makes Tommy Shaw's past troubles seem like a church picnic. Plus Gary is a stronger writer than JY and would have been more likely to give Dennis a real run for his money, which only could have led to more ego/money/control battles. I think the tension would have been much, much more with him in the band, honestly. Of course, Gary is basically toast now, sadly.


Sterling

I knew about the substance abuse problems, but not the dislike. Nice to have guys around here that do their research.

LOL, I actually happen to have accidentally wandered across an old interview with Gary a while back (in some book in a used store), and he was talking about how he did not like Dennis. I've heard that through the years, too.

About a dozen years ago I saw Gary in concert in a tiny club in Atlanta, and it is hands-down the saddest thing I've ever seen on stage in my life. He was visibly hammered and staggering around. His band was not that great, and the whole thing wasn't very good. At one point he was trying to play the intro to "Take It On the Run" and no sound was coming out of his acoustic. A tech came out and was messng with it, and Gary tried to make a weak joke by saying, "Did anyone here see Spinal Tap?" And some guy at the bar shouted, "I'm looking at it right now!" OUCH! That was a tough thing to see. I know at some date or another on the EOTC tour he and his band opened for Styx, and the guys in the band couldn't believe how far he had fallen. He'd turned into a bloated alcoholic who could hardly play anymore, and that was fifteen years ago. From what I hear now, Gary's not even capable of getting it together long enough to work anymore. Sadly, one of these days we're going to come to this site and read that he is dead. What a waste . . . he was such a great player in his prime.

I hope all is well.


Sterling

Kevin Cronin... blech...

Does this mean if it is possible to support Tommy and JY and not Dennis, then come to one's senses and support Dennis or vice versa?

I am banking on a Rutles reunion. Anybody remember that one?

People were strange in Double Back Alley...

The Rutles were awesome! Didn't care for their second album, but I have them both. GREAT first one.

LordofDaRing wrote:I am banking on a Rutles reunion. Anybody remember that one?

Indeed.
The Rutles movie was brilliant,and some great songs were to be found as 'Ouch' ,instead of 'Help'.
Remember everytime he got hit in the head with an apple...Ouch.
Classic.