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You have front row tickets to one of the following shows (and a time machine). What show would you see?

Zan wrote:A chance to see Big haired Glen in spandex from the front row again? To see John P. again? Sign me up.

i hear ya... it was a very tough call, but seeing tommy & glen together again won out. although i'd still love to see the big-haired glen in spandex.

Zan wrote:A chance to see Big haired Glen in spandex from the front row again? To see John P. again? Sign me up.

Yea I wanna see Glen in spandex

Pretty much a no-brainer for me. I've no desire to hear anything from KWH or EOTC live, other than Love Is The Ritual. So I'd go with post-2000 (Burtnik version, please)!

No desire to see actors in rubber suits and no desire to see a Styx show without Tommy.

froy wrote:

Zan wrote:A chance to see Big haired Glen in spandex from the front row again? To see John P. again? Sign me up.

Yea I wanna see Glen in spandex

see- i knew Froy and I would eventually agree on something!!!!

The KWH show hands down - the others aren't remotely close. The "middle" of the KWH show was your standard "Styx" concert and, since it had both Dennis and Tommy, it easily and overwhelmingly outdistances the other two.

The problem with the post 2000 shows continues to be LG's vocals.

Higgy wrote:You have front row tickets to one of the following shows (and a time machine). What show would you see?

I'd scalp the tickets to someone who actually wanted to put themselves through that torture.

Higgy wrote:You have front row tickets to one of the following shows (and a time machine). What show would you see?

If you pick anything but KWH, you aren't true Styx fan. KWH was the only one that had the classic line-up.

You are smoking something if you say otherwise.

Kilroy. No contest.



Bugsy

"Groteful," for example, appears to be a big TS fan - I think he's remarkably "off" in his assessment of "100 Years From Now", especially when compared with "Cyclorama"- but I can see, if Tommy is his "Styx" guy, why he'd prefer the State Fair/warming up for Fireworks after baseball games version of Styx.

Actually, I'd want to go back to 1977 or 1978, not any of those options listed. I know people are going to cry foul, but my reason is that I want to go back to a time when songs like "Come Sail Away" were new and fresh for the band. I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg. That band is not quite the same as the one on the radio broadcast from Chicago in 1978 on the Po8 tour after they hit it big. I'd like to see Styx pre-massive drug issues, pre-fame when they were hungry.

Zan wrote:Well then, I guess I must be smoking something. Kilroy is the last choice I'd make for a few reasons, none of which have anything to do with the "classic lineup." (And I think I've seen enough Styx related shows to consider myself a true fan, doncha think) - By the way, I remembered another show I went to last year that wasn't on the list. LOL

First (and most importantly), knowing what we all know about the band at this point, I think being front and center for this show would be a bit depressing for me. Knowing how they all basically hated each other, how Tommy was strung-out, how this *would* be the last tour of all of them together. Very depressing - I doubt I'd be able to get into it at all.

Second, I have seen many post 2000 shows from the front row. They were AWESOME, and I'd love to go back and do it again, but considering I only got to see 2 of the Edge shows, and one was from 22 rows back, I'd have more to observe and appreciate if I went back to 1991. And since I only get one choice...

Thirdly, Glen had the hair, and he sang "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," which fucking RULED.

Fourth, I know a Damn Yankees show would only be a couple months away. *g*

Fifth, no blue eyeshadow was worn in 1991 or 2000.

You do make a point that I totally didn't think about (Note the agreement here, folks). Tommy was so out of his mind at that point on Coke, Heroin, Speed, Booze, Women, etc. that he probably wasn't at his prime - and if they hated each other it probably wasn't a great cohesive performance. But it was my first concert ever (that tour) and I was absolutely blown away. The average fan (at least me as a 14 year old) didn't know anything was wrong. In fact I distinctly remember an article in the local paper talking about how the band was planning on making Kilroy a full length film - both DLIE and Roboto were top 5 singles and being played TO DEATH on local radio. Styx was huge.

Glen's hair - was that real? - looking back on it, it almost looks fake. Did people really have hair that big then?

rajah2165 wrote:

Zan wrote:Well then, I guess I must be smoking something. Kilroy is the last choice I'd make for a few reasons, none of which have anything to do with the "classic lineup." (And I think I've seen enough Styx related shows to consider myself a true fan, doncha think) - By the way, I remembered another show I went to last year that wasn't on the list. LOL

First (and most importantly), knowing what we all know about the band at this point, I think being front and center for this show would be a bit depressing for me. Knowing how they all basically hated each other, how Tommy was strung-out, how this *would* be the last tour of all of them together. Very depressing - I doubt I'd be able to get into it at all.

Second, I have seen many post 2000 shows from the front row. They were AWESOME, and I'd love to go back and do it again, but considering I only got to see 2 of the Edge shows, and one was from 22 rows back, I'd have more to observe and appreciate if I went back to 1991. And since I only get one choice...

Thirdly, Glen had the hair, and he sang "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," which fucking RULED.

Fourth, I know a Damn Yankees show would only be a couple months away. *g*

Fifth, no blue eyeshadow was worn in 1991 or 2000.

You do make a point that I totally didn't think about (Note the agreement here, folks). Tommy was so out of his mind at that point on Coke, Heroin, Speed, Booze, Women, etc. that he probably wasn't at his prime - and if they hated each other it probably wasn't a great cohesive performance. But it was my first concert ever (that tour) and I was absolutely blown away. The average fan (at least me as a 14 year old) didn't know anything was wrong. In fact I distinctly remember an article in the local paper talking about how the band was planning on making Kilroy a full length film - both DLIE and Roboto were top 5 singles and being played TO DEATH on local radio. Styx was huge.

Glen's hair - was that real? - looking back on it, it almost looks fake. Did people really have hair that big then?

To give an example of how big Styx and Kilroy was - in my high school yearbook that year, my friend Gary Boodhoo has a huge picture of him wearing a Styx Kilroy Shirt and it said, "Gary Boodhoo got to go to the biggest concert of the year and he loved it!"

rajah2165 wrote:

Higgy wrote:You have front row tickets to one of the following shows (and a time machine). What show would you see?

If you pick anything but KWH, you aren't true Styx fan. KWH was the only one that had the classic line-up.

You are smoking something if you say otherwise.

Well,if I hadn't seen it ,I would for kilwoy.
But I saw it and it was a mess.
Did not see the 'Edge' tour but did not like the album at all.
Have seen the Styx 2000 and beyond and have had a good time.So,since they pretty much don't play the songs I dislike(except fot GI songs that I am just plain tired of ),I go for this one.
I guess I must have smoked ,though I am a non-smoker.

rajah2165 wrote:Glen's hair - was that real? - looking back on it, it almost looks fake. Did people really have hair that big then?

Believe it, or not. Yes it was!

rajah2165 wrote:To give an example of how big Styx and Kilroy was - in my high school yearbook that year, my friend Gary Boodhoo has a huge picture of him wearing a Styx Kilroy Shirt and it said, "Gary Boodhoo got to go to the biggest concert of the year and he loved it!"

Here in South Florida, by 1983, Styx had already begun to decline in popularity. I was the "lone Styx fan" in my school for the most part with the exception of a few that I converted on my own. The big band at that time was Duran Duran, they were everywhere, and Styx was considered passe. I used to get teased for liking Styx. I guess it's all about location, location, location.

StyxCollector wrote:Actually, I'd want to go back to 1977 or 1978, not any of those options listed. I know people are going to cry foul, but my reason is that I want to go back to a time when songs like "Come Sail Away" were new and fresh for the band. I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg. That band is not quite the same as the one on the radio broadcast from Chicago in 1978 on the Po8 tour after they hit it big. I'd like to see Styx pre-massive drug issues, pre-fame when they were hungry.

Just saw this and downloaded it from guitars101.com. That show sounded great.

StyxCollector wrote:I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg.

Boy, howdy. The band right on the cusp, with damn near transcendant performances of "Come Sail Away" & "Midnight Ride."

Possibly my favorite live recording of Styx, ever.

stabbim wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg.

Boy, howdy. The band right on the cusp, with damn near transcendant performances of "Come Sail Away" & "Midnight Ride."

Possibly my favorite live recording of Styx, ever.

I agree, those were the prime days of classic Styx live. They were always good, but they were just absolutely ON FIRE when they did the Mantra Studios broadcast. It's like going back in time and seeing a band about to break out, KNOWING it's about to break out. They sound confident.


Sterling

kipthekid wrote:"Groteful," for example, appears to be a big TS fan - I think he's remarkably "off" in his assessment of "100 Years From Now", especially when compared with "Cyclorama"- but I can see, if Tommy is his "Styx" guy, why he'd prefer the State Fair/warming up for Fireworks after baseball games version of Styx.

First off it is GroteLUL not GroteFUL!

I am a huge fan of Styx 1975-1978 and that includes DENNIS and TOMMY. Kilroy was way too cornball and I was embarassed to watch it in front of my friends. I felt bad for Tommy and the rest for having to act like total goofs in that thing. I disliked Edge of the Century. It was nothing like the Styx I loved from '75-'78. That is okay...I moved on to other stuff. Glen was okay but I did not care for any of his stuff on Edge besides Love Is The Ritual. So label me what you will..I could really care less.

stabbim wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg.

Boy, howdy. The band right on the cusp, with damn near transcendant performances of "Come Sail Away" & "Midnight Ride."

Possibly my favorite live recording of Styx, ever.

It is my favorite live recording of Styx. You can feel the band on the verge of greatness, and they are so full of piss and vinegar. The songs sound fresh, they are not jaded yet ... no live document of Styx stands up to me like this one does. This is a band at the top of their game. This is way better than the KBFH in '75 and you even get "22 Years" there.

Now if they saw fit to release this if they could get their hands on it ... wow. Even the unreleased live album isn't as good as this.

StyxCollector wrote:

stabbim wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:I've said it many times before, but check out the Mantra Studios bootleg.

Boy, howdy. The band right on the cusp, with damn near transcendant performances of "Come Sail Away" & "Midnight Ride."

Possibly my favorite live recording of Styx, ever.

It is my favorite live recording of Styx. You can feel the band on the verge of greatness, and they are so full of piss and vinegar. The songs sound fresh, they are not jaded yet ... no live document of Styx stands up to me like this one does. This is a band at the top of their game. This is way better than the KBFH in '75 and you even get "22 Years" there.

Now if they saw fit to release this if they could get their hands on it ... wow. Even the unreleased live album isn't as good as this.

Where can you get this?

rajah2165 wrote:Where can you get this?

What?

StyxCollector wrote:

rajah2165 wrote:Where can you get this?

What?

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/st ... 51891.html

Try this

styxfansite wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

rajah2165 wrote:Where can you get this?

What?

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/st ... 51891.html

Try this

Thanks. It rocks!

What's sad is that this version is only MP3 and the quality has gone down the years.

It also shows the guitar-riff version of "Grand Illusion" was introduced soon after the release of the album. I always wondered why they never recorded it that way. No echo effects on the vox ("We're all the same ... same ... same ..."). Real Oberheim. Sigh.

Those were the days.