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Def Lep/Styx Tour Comes To End

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:14 am
by Grotelul
An end to a great tour and the opportunity to play for thousands of fans that would not normally have seen Styx. Regardless of your feelings on current Styx, who can argue with the fact that many new fans may go out and buy Styx music now.

http://www.styxworld.com/listingsEntry. ... =STYX+News

Re: Def Lep/Styx Tour Comes To End

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:17 pm
by rajah2165
Grotelul wrote:An end to a great tour and the opportunity to play for thousands of fans that would not normally have seen Styx. Regardless of your feelings on current Styx, who can argue with the fact that many new fans may go out and buy Styx music now.

http://www.styxworld.com/listingsEntry. ... =STYX+News


I'm sure that 35 minute set did wonders....In fact, let me go look at the charts right now..

OK I'm back...strangest thing...I don't see any of their albums on the charts anywhere..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:00 pm
by bugsymalone
Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy

Re: Def Lep/Styx Tour Comes To End

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:32 pm
by froy
Grotelul wrote:An end to a great tour and the opportunity to play for thousands of fans that would not normally have seen Styx. Regardless of your feelings on current Styx, who can argue with the fact that many new fans may go out and buy Styx music now.

http://www.styxworld.com/listingsEntry. ... =STYX+News



I don't remember the last time I ran out and bought anything from an opening act.
Why would anyone else,

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:04 pm
by gr8dane
bugsymalone wrote:Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy


Actually,I think the kids(new fans) will download it for free.
But maybe they will attend another Styx concert though.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:21 pm
by rajah2165
gr8dane wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy


Actually,I think the kids(new fans) will download it for free.
But maybe they will attend another Styx concert though.


SOrry, but I don't think Def Leppard has a lot of "kids" in their audience. Let's face it, they are only a few years removed from Styx as it relates to their hey day (mid and late 80s vs. early 80s)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:47 pm
by Blue Falcon
bugsymalone wrote:Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy


Meaning anything without Gowan on it. :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:28 am
by gr8dane
rajah2165 wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy


Actually,I think the kids(new fans) will download it for free.
But maybe they will attend another Styx concert though.


SOrry, but I don't think Def Leppard has a lot of "kids" in their audience. Let's face it, they are only a few years removed from Styx as it relates to their hey day (mid and late 80s vs. early 80s)


Fair enough.
Though my experience over the last 3-5 years is that there are a lot of kids who do not go for the new breed of rock,say anything from 2000 and forward.
I have caught sveral 70-80ies bands where the kids (who show up here) prefer that to the new stuff.
I am not only talking Styx Lep here.
I saw Scorpions over the summer.Loads of moms and dads bringing there kids.(I was one of them).Loads of 18-20 year olds who just dug the old stuff.
Same with Deep Purple,Alice Cooper and the likes.

LOL - end of a "great" tour?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:42 am
by kipthekid
I get the eery sense that Groteful likes writing that stuff just to get a rise out of people. Other than, I suppose, putting some $$ in their pockets, this tour was an unmitigiated disaster. Being the bastard step-child warm up act - at times being the warm act FOR the warm act - was an abysmal decision to make.

They didn't present their music to new "fans." The music they were allowed to play in their 30-45 minute 'sets' was predominantely their classic stuff - stuff that Def Leppard fans would already be more than well aware of.

This tour was an absolute embarassment, ranking a close second to their release of a record number of live albums in terms of bad moves made by or for New Styx.

The bands "brand" or "legacy" is already tarnished IMHO - that won't change. It would be nice, however, to see them refrain from bastardizing themselves like this in the future.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:00 pm
by sega_102
Some of you people need to get a life and calm down.

If I didn't know any better, I'd mistake this board for a pre-teen board.....

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:18 pm
by Grotelul
bugsymalone wrote:Judging from the setlists posted, the "new" fans will probably be buying the "old" music.

8)

Bugsy



Totally agree and I think that is a good thing.

Re: LOL - end of a "great" tour?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:28 pm
by Grotelul
kipthekid wrote:I get the eery sense that Groteful likes writing that stuff just to get a rise out of people. Other than, I suppose, putting some $$ in their pockets, this tour was an unmitigiated disaster. Being the bastard step-child warm up act - at times being the warm act FOR the warm act - was an abysmal decision to make.

They didn't present their music to new "fans." The music they were allowed to play in their 30-45 minute 'sets' was predominantely their classic stuff - stuff that Def Leppard fans would already be more than well aware of.

This tour was an absolute embarassment, ranking a close second to their release of a record number of live albums in terms of bad moves made by or for New Styx.

The bands "brand" or "legacy" is already tarnished IMHO - that won't change. It would be nice, however, to see them refrain from bastardizing themselves like this in the future.


What is wrong with saying that some people that went to these shows may now buy some Styx music? I'm sure 99% of them would buy the old stuff and to me what is wrong with that? How was this tour an absolute embarassment? They made good change and played in front of large crowds where people would not normally have heard them. It's called exposure. Even if DDY had stayed with Styx they would not blow the socks off the majority and they wouldn't be headlining major arenas and amphitheaters every year or two. Just wouldn't happen. Would they draw more than they do now? Yes, but to think they would be a major player at this stage of their career is a pipe dream.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:35 am
by DarrenUK
Have to agree would love to see DDY back with Styx but the football stadium days are long gone ....... 10,000 seater venues at best and that is if they had a decent band as opener .....

Re: Def Lep/Styx Tour Comes To End

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:41 am
by Abitaman
rajah2165 wrote:
Grotelul wrote:An end to a great tour and the opportunity to play for thousands of fans that would not normally have seen Styx. Regardless of your feelings on current Styx, who can argue with the fact that many new fans may go out and buy Styx music now.

http://www.styxworld.com/listingsEntry. ... =STYX+News


I'm sure that 35 minute set did wonders....In fact, let me go look at the charts right now..

OK I'm back...strangest thing...I don't see any of their albums on the charts anywhere..


The new charts do not come out on Saturday, so it wouldn't show now :wink: -ERIC

Re: Def Lep/Styx Tour Comes To End

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:49 am
by Abitaman
froy wrote:

I don't remember the last time I ran out and bought anything from an opening act.
Why would anyone else,



For me it was Ricahrd MArx, Mr. Big, PAt Bentar....

Re: LOL - end of a "great" tour?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:09 am
by shaka
kipthekid wrote:I get the eery sense that Groteful likes writing that stuff just to get a rise out of people. Other than, I suppose, putting some $$ in their pockets, this tour was an unmitigiated disaster. Being the bastard step-child warm up act - at times being the warm act FOR the warm act - was an abysmal decision to make.

They didn't present their music to new "fans." The music they were allowed to play in their 30-45 minute 'sets' was predominantely their classic stuff - stuff that Def Leppard fans would already be more than well aware of.

This tour was an absolute embarassment, ranking a close second to their release of a record number of live albums in terms of bad moves made by or for New Styx.

The bands "brand" or "legacy" is already tarnished IMHO - that won't change. It would be nice, however, to see them refrain from bastardizing themselves like this in the future.


No offense but I caught the show in Salt Lake City and it absolutely killed. Styx played for over an hour with the crowd standing the entire time. Styx also played one of their new tunes. In addition Styx had the entire crowd eating out of its hands their entire set. Def Lep by itself wouldn't have filled half of the venue. The show was successful because of the great combination of bands.

Speaking of the crowd the show in SLC was packed with over twenty thousand people. The number of teenagers there was astounding. I think it's great that these teenagers are able to show up and see some classic acts on one bill. I certainly think it would have been cool if Led Zep, Deep Purple, and Jethro Tull would have come around when I was a teen even though at that time all of them were past their prime.

None of the three bands involved has anything to be ashamed about with regard to the tour.