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Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:44 am
by styxfansite
Everyone's favorite guy in Styx......well maybe not......Here is another interview by Jy.

He actually talks good about Dennis on the Grand Illusion question and says his name and not the other guy or the other Keyboardist :D



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Styx has seen the best of times — and the worst. The band has weathered breakups and lineup changes for more than three decades.

With the 1972 self-titled debut, the Chicago group featured Dennis DeYoung, vocals and keyboards, James Young, vocals and guitar, John Curulewski, vocals and guitar, and brothers Chuck and John Panozzo, bass and drums, respectively. When Curulewski left, he was replaced by guitarist and singer Tommy Shaw.

The stage was set for hits: “Come Sail Away,” “Fooling Yourself,” “Blue Collar Man,” “Renegade,” “Babe,” “The Best of Times,” “Too Much Time on My Hands,” “Mr. Roboto.”

After four consecutive albums certified multi-platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America — “The Grand Illusion,” “Pieces of Eight,” “Cornerstone” and “Paradise Theater” — the band broke up in 1984.

Styx has reformed with various lineups, including its current one with Young, Shaw, Chuck Panozzo, drummer Todd Sucherman, bass player and singer Ricky Phillips, and keyboardist and singer Lawrence Gowan.
Styx will play at Stranahan Theater at 8 p.m. Oct. 26. Tickets are $59.50, $49.50 and $39.50.

Young recently answered a few questions from his Chicago home.

TFP: 2007 marks the 30th anniversary of “The Grand Illusion.” What made that record special?

Young: I know during the creative process that went into making that record, I think perhaps never before and perhaps maybe even never after that were we all so personally and professionally pointed in the same direction. Dennis came up with a great notion for a concept of a record, and we all sort of rose to the occasion and did some great work together ... and then that was sort of our moment in time. Maybe stupid numerology has something to do with it — the album was released on the seventh day of the seventh month of the 77th year of that century. Not that we're superstitious, mind you.

TFP: Are you working on new material?

Young: We absolutely are in the process of starting to write, trying to figure out what we're supposed to do as a recording act at this point in time. The record business is changing dramatically ... the CD sales side is shrinking a lot more rapidly than the legal digital sales are growing. I think our strategy for the future is simply to try and write a great song and keep trying to make great recordings of individual songs, which is kind of how things started back in the beginning — it was about 45 RPM singles.

TFP: Styx has been through a lot — breaking up in 1984, reuniting with different lineups, John Panozzo's death in 1996, lawsuits, Chuck being diagnosed with AIDS and prostate cancer. What keeps you going?

Young: I love what I do. The time we spend on the stage is such an amazing joy to me. We're seeing more third-generation fans — people under the age of 25 are showing up. And that really is a tremendous renewable energy that we're fortunate enough to have develop and that keeps us going.

TFP: This has been a big reunion year for bands — The Police, Genesis, Van Halen. Any chance Dennis might rejoin the group?

Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have.

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:11 am
by Higgy
styxfansite wrote:
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have. [/color]


Here's a surprise - JY is lying! Thats new! I guess getting kicked out of your own band is EXACTLY like "moving on and preventing the rest from moving on without him".

JY is a dick.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:52 am
by styxfanNH
No one is changing anyone's point of view here, so I am not going to try.

But just a couple of notes on this. JY actually says Dennis' name without refering to him as "our former keyboard player" and within context doesn't bash him in that part of the interview.

Also, when JY says Dennis tried to stop the rest of them from continuing on, he is clearly refering to the lawsuit.

Dennis leaving.....I agree it's a stretch.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:54 am
by piecesofeight
styxfanNH wrote:No one is changing anyone's point of view here, so I am not going to try.

But just a couple of notes on this. JY actually says Dennis' name without refering to him as "our former keyboard player" and within context doesn't bash him in that part of the interview.

Also, when JY says Dennis tried to stop the rest of them from continuing on, he is clearly refering to the lawsuit.

Dennis leaving.....I agree it's a stretch.


Bravo!

JY

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:10 am
by cittadeeno23
Well it's clear that the lawsuit was the last straw for JY. If Dennis had not gone that route I would be willing to bet the band would have worked things out by now.
That's too bad. But people have done worse things to each other and worked it out.

It seems like musicians hold grudges longer than any other profession!!
I'm not blaming JY,
I think all of them were at fault at least a little bit. I hope they can forgive and forget some day.
Life is just too damn short.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:44 am
by bugsymalone
JY's job it seems is to go out an preach the new, re-written, history. He does this quite well. I bet a lot of people believe that last paragraph.


Bugsy

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:14 pm
by Grotelul
Higgy wrote:
styxfansite wrote:
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have. [/color]


Here's a surprise - JY is lying! Thats new! I guess getting kicked out of your own band is EXACTLY like "moving on and preventing the rest from moving on without him".

JY is a dick.


Here is a surprise...Higgy hates JY!!!

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:21 pm
by pinkfloyd1973
Grotelul wrote:
Higgy wrote:
styxfansite wrote:
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have. [/color]


Here's a surprise - JY is lying! Thats new! I guess getting kicked out of your own band is EXACTLY like "moving on and preventing the rest from moving on without him".

JY is a dick.


Here is a surprise...Higgy hates JY!!!




Wow, perceptive are we? :lol:





Robin :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:53 pm
by yogi
Who's JY??????

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:14 pm
by froy
yogi wrote:Who's JY??????


I think thats vag jelly.

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:54 pm
by AnnieOprah
Grotelul wrote:
Higgy wrote:
styxfansite wrote:
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have. [/color]


Here's a surprise - JY is lying! Thats new! I guess getting kicked out of your own band is EXACTLY like "moving on and preventing the rest from moving on without him".

JY is a dick.


Here is a surprise...Higgy hates JY!!!


Here is a surprise...Groteful is defending JY!

Higgy is right. That is about as blatant of a lie as they come. Talk about rewriting history!

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:22 pm
by Grotelul
AnnieOprah wrote:
Grotelul wrote:
Higgy wrote:
styxfansite wrote:
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do. I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ... but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.' There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96 after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly. People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before. This is the band I always wanted to have. [/color]


Here's a surprise - JY is lying! Thats new! I guess getting kicked out of your own band is EXACTLY like "moving on and preventing the rest from moving on without him".

JY is a dick.


Here is a surprise...Higgy hates JY!!!


Here is a surprise...Groteful is defending JY!

Higgy is right. That is about as blatant of a lie as they come. Talk about rewriting history!


Who is Groteful?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:13 am
by ek88
TFP: This has been a big reunion year for bands — The Police, Genesis, Van Halen. Any chance Dennis might rejoin the group?


Regarding JY's answer, sometimes I wonder if it's less about rewriting history and more about trying to come up with a fresh answer for a very, very old and tired question.

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:54 am
by froy
Young: Not as far as I'm concerned. I understand why fans want to see something in its original form, but, unfortunately, even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do.



Nice try Young
The fact is I just saw Van Halen in Chicago and the place was packed to the roof
2 nights in Chicago 35 thousand seats sold.

He may be right in one sense we do want Dennis back with Shaw and Chuck but we can do without James Young,




I think as far as Styx goes, Dennis clearly was not happy in the context of Styx and decided to move on ...[/quote]

And the fans went right with him




but trying to prevent us from moving on without him, that's something we ultimately, finally, put our foot down and said, ‘you're not going to stop us from doing what we've all been doing since inception here.'


You mean ruin the band?
You mean Cover cds?
You mean a cd that sold aluminum status.
You did not put you foot down you put it in your big mouth.



There's enough scar tissue there — I mean, there was enough the first time we got back together in ‘96


The only scar tissue I see is from the face lift JY



after being apart 13 years, and ultimately those wounds reopened very quickly.


You are not a smart man James Young you are full of yourself and it.


People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage


I have never heard anyone say this
The only joy you get is when the paycheck comes



This is the band I always wanted to have.


My case and point
Check mate/

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:12 pm
by DavidD
This is the band I always wanted to have.




Yeah this quote from JY struck me as a little delusional. The band he wanted to have? So now STYX is JY's band. I wouldn't be surprised if TS is close to moving on.

David

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:23 am
by Blue Falcon
styxfansite wrote:...even with Van Halen, you're not getting Michael Anthony up there, so they still haven't done what people really want them to do.


Ummm...does anyone seriously think VH fans are 'clamoring' for Anthony to be back in the band?? JY is comparing Michael Anthony--the bassist with a good backing voice who contributed NOTHING to VH in a musical or writing sense--with DDY, the PRIMARY songwriter and vision of Styx, which is a slap in the face. Oh well, whaddaya expect from JY?

People who see the band now say there's incredible joy that emanates from the stage that they never sensed before.


I think JY is the only one saying this.

This is the band I always wanted to have.


The first honest comment from JY I've heard in a long time...and pretty revealing. I'm sure when Tommy finally leaves he'll say the same thing.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:38 am
by stabbim
styxfanNH wrote:Also, when JY says Dennis tried to stop the rest of them from continuing on, he is clearly refering to the lawsuit.


I'm not convinced that he is. Or at least I don't think it's the only thing he's referring to.

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:43 am
by Grotelul
DavidD wrote:
This is the band I always wanted to have.




Yeah this quote from JY struck me as a little delusional. The band he wanted to have? So now STYX is JY's band. I wouldn't be surprised if TS is close to moving on.

David



This comment makes sense to me. He always wanted to play in a group that had very technical players...(Todd, Gowan and Ricky). If you were to ask him if he would give up all the success he had with the original lineup for the current situation...of course not! That would be ridiculous. After years of interviews does every little detail have to be spelled out?

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:54 am
by stabbim
Grotelul wrote:
DavidD wrote:
This is the band I always wanted to have.


Yeah this quote from JY struck me as a little delusional. The band he wanted to have? So now STYX is JY's band. I wouldn't be surprised if TS is close to moving on.

David


This comment makes sense to me. He always wanted to play in a group that had very technical players...(Todd, Gowan and Ricky). If you were to ask him if he would give up all the success he had with the original lineup for the current situation...of course not! That would be ridiculous. After years of interviews does every little detail have to be spelled out?


But, don't you see? He used the word "have." "Have," he said! How can you be so blind?

Re: Another Interview With Jy10/19/07

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:24 am
by Grotelul
stabbim wrote:
Grotelul wrote:
DavidD wrote:
This is the band I always wanted to have.


Yeah this quote from JY struck me as a little delusional. The band he wanted to have? So now STYX is JY's band. I wouldn't be surprised if TS is close to moving on.

David


This comment makes sense to me. He always wanted to play in a group that had very technical players...(Todd, Gowan and Ricky). If you were to ask him if he would give up all the success he had with the original lineup for the current situation...of course not! That would be ridiculous. After years of interviews does every little detail have to be spelled out?


But, don't you see? He used the word "have." "Have," he said! How can you be so blind?


I don't believe that is what he meant and I base that on what he has said in the past. I take things as a whole and not base my opinions on one little quote from a newspaper article that may or may not be what was actually said or what he meant to say. How many times have you heard people say.."that was taken out of context". I don't trust the print media any further than I could throw an elephant.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:27 am
by stabbim
<--- Note to self: employ winky emoticons more generously in future.

JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:47 am
by kipthekid
Dennis isn't the keyboardist that Gowan is, but, it's far from a stretch to suggest that Dennis was and is a better keyboardist than JY is a guitar player. Dennis, in his prime, could have more easily fit into a true prog-rock band than JY ever could. JY's style is more post-Hendrix than it is Steve Howe.

Yes, Gowan and Todd could easily line up with Dream Theater and be credible, but JY would snap his finger tips off trying to keep up.

Re: JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:10 am
by Higgy
kipthekid wrote: JY's style is more post-Hendrix than it is Steve Howe.


JY is to Steve Howe what the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are to the Boston Red Sox.

Of course...

JY is to Hendrix what shit is to diamonds.

Re: JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:27 am
by gr8dane
Higgy wrote:
kipthekid wrote: JY's style is more post-Hendrix than it is Steve Howe.


JY is to Steve Howe what the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are to the Boston Red Sox.

Of course...

JY is to Hendrix what shit is to diamonds.


OMG,that is so funny.
You must be the funniest guy in your class.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:38 pm
by Barbara
stabbim wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Also, when JY says Dennis tried to stop the rest of them from continuing on, he is clearly refering to the lawsuit.


I'm not convinced that he is. Or at least I don't think it's the only thing he's referring to.


I don't see why it would be so off the wall that the law suit is what made a difference. The way I see it, a lawsuit is something a person does to a "stranger". These guys should have been like "brothers" when that shit happened. I can understand J.Y. being pissed off about it. What I don't understand is, holding a grudge for so fucking long!! By ALL of the parties involved! But, WHATEVER! I guess being "Rock Stars" makes it all right. :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:58 am
by stabbim
Barbara wrote:
stabbim wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Also, when JY says Dennis tried to stop the rest of them from continuing on, he is clearly refering to the lawsuit.


I'm not convinced that he is. Or at least I don't think it's the only thing he's referring to.


I don't see why it would be so off the wall that the law suit is what made a difference.


Not saying it wasn't a blow. Just saying that in the context of the quote about "moving on" it doesn't make a lot of sense, since it's pretty well public record that DDY didn't physically leave the band so much as he was ousted. And the lawsuit happened quite a bit later than that.

So not that it really matters, but as far as I can tell, it's either a context issue with the quote (that ellipses is a pretty big hint) or he was referring to the split in general.

Re: JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:47 am
by Blue Falcon
kipthekid wrote:Dennis isn't the keyboardist that Gowan is, but, it's far from a stretch to suggest that Dennis was and is a better keyboardist than JY is a guitar player.


Gowan may be more 'technical' but does that make him a better musician? What songs has Gowan penned that come anywhere close the the quality of the songs DDY wrote or influenced during Styx's heyday?

What if Rush replaced Alex Lifeson with Joe Satriani? Sure, he's more technical...but would Rush fans want that?? :shock:

Re: JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:24 am
by Zan
Blue Falcon wrote:
kipthekid wrote:Dennis isn't the keyboardist that Gowan is, but, it's far from a stretch to suggest that Dennis was and is a better keyboardist than JY is a guitar player.


Gowan may be more 'technical' but does that make him a better musician?



Technically, yes. lol


What songs has Gowan penned that come anywhere close the the quality of the songs DDY wrote or influenced during Styx's heyday?



What does that have to do with either of their keyboard playing abilities?

Re: JY and "technical players?"

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:54 am
by Blue Falcon
Zan wrote:
Blue Falcon wrote:
kipthekid wrote:Dennis isn't the keyboardist that Gowan is, but, it's far from a stretch to suggest that Dennis was and is a better keyboardist than JY is a guitar player.


Gowan may be more 'technical' but does that make him a better musician?



Technically, yes. lol


What songs has Gowan penned that come anywhere close the the quality of the songs DDY wrote or influenced during Styx's heyday?



What does that have to do with either of their keyboard playing abilities?


Nothing, but 'technically' good musicians are a dime a dozen...creative ones are not. Same reason I was against Gowan (or the other newbies) receiving that 'lifetime achievement award' recently...they've contributed nothing new to add to the legacy, and certainly weren't around when it was being created in the first place. All they are is a tribute band, at this point.

(I'm not a DDY-supporter, either. He was a control freak and likely pi$$ed off everyone else in the band. They shouldn't get back together with him if they can't stand each other...I just don't like when JY comes out and tries to dismiss DDY's existence/contributions. As far as I know, DDY hasn't done the same to JY, but I certainly don't know the whole story!)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:17 am
by stabbim
Blue Falcon wrote:Nothing, but 'technically' good musicians are a dime a dozen...creative ones are
not.


Fair enough. Not to say that the newer members of the band don't have creative inclinations (they're all credited writers) but they really haven't been called upon to employ them much, since creativity doesn't seem to be high on Styx's list of priorities lately.

Then again, this whole tangent started over the suggestion that JY prefers the current lineup because the players are more technical than in previous lineups, which is kinda nonsensical on a numbeer of levels. Seems to me that he prefers this lineup primarily because A) they get along better, B) they tour more, and C) he has more freedom and control. The other guys being musically skilled is nice and all, I'm sure, but to claim that it's the whole point is ...well, silly.