MR

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:57 am**

ST LOUIS - DENNIS DEYOUNG:THE MUSIC OF STYX (click for more info)

Date: May 23, 2008
Time: 9:00 pm

Location: Show map
Rib America Festival
Soldiers Memorial Plaza
1315 Chestnut Street
St Louis, MO 63103

CLEVELAND - DENNIS DEYOUNG: THE MUSIC OF STYX (click for more info)

Date: May 24, 2008
Time: 9:15 pm

Location: Show map
Marc's Great American Rib Cookoff
Time Warner Cable Amphitheater at Tower City
1887 W. 3rd Street
Cleveland, OH 44113

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:10 am**

styxfanNH wrote:CLEVELAND - DENNIS DEYOUNG: THE MUSIC OF STYX (click for more info)

Date: May 24, 2008
Time: 9:15 pm

Location: Show map
Marc's Great American Rib Cookoff
Time Warner Cable Amphitheater at Tower City
1887 W. 3rd Street
Cleveland, OH 44113

I took my wife to see Meatloaf at this venue last year.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:24 pm**

Maybe he has traded Finnese for Cooke's BBQ Sauce!! :lol:

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:36 am**

Angiekay wrote:

Maybe he has traded Finnese for Cooke's BBQ Sauce!!

A little sticky in the hair dontcha think? :lol:

Robin

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:50 am**

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

Maybe he has traded Finnese for Cooke's BBQ Sauce!!

A little sticky in the hair dontcha think?

Robin

SOMETHING has to keep that thing on!!! Cheaper than Rogaine! :wink:

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:35 pm**

you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:54 pm**

sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

Methinks you might be surprised at how much a Def Leppard tour pays its "3rd bill."

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:35 pm**

sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

That is dead wrong!! I know this for a fact!

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:41 pm**

ChicagoSTYX wrote:
sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

That is dead wrong!! I know this for a fact!

But...he said it with such CONVICTION! ;-)

Posted: **Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:12 pm**

Zan wrote:
sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

Methinks you might be surprised at how much a Def Leppard tour pays its "3rd bill."

I still think it's insane that Styx isn't headlining more. How are they opening for Boston? Why are they the third bill on the Def Leppard bill?

They need to stand up and not take this "opening act" crap anymore!! Just market yourselves - they can still headline!!

Posted: **Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:28 pm**

Maybe they're playing "hard to get"...

Posted: **Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:56 pm**

Toph wrote:I still think it's insane that Styx isn't headlining more. How are they opening for Boston? Why are they the third bill on the Def Leppard bill?

They are opening for Boston because it's Boston's tour and at this point in time..Boston is better than Styx.

Posted: **Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:54 am**

piecesofeight wrote:
Toph wrote:I still think it's insane that Styx isn't headlining more. How are they opening for Boston? Why are they the third bill on the Def Leppard bill?

They are opening for Boston because it's Boston's tour and at this point in time..Boston is better than Styx.

I'd tend to think that Styx is content to play 2nd and 3rd Bill to other bands to generate more fans. Getting back to basics and/or just slowing things down a bit. They've been touring what seems like non-stop through Brave New World, Cyclorama, and Big Bang Theory, (and Influence).

Maybe a slower schedule is needed. People get burned out, not just musicians, but the fans as well.

OK, off to contemplate my life. Hope this post made sense, if not, just skip it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:54 pm**

ChicagoSTYX wrote:
sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

That is dead wrong!! I know this for a fact!

what statement is dead wrong.
i thought the original tour with journey styx and reo was good for the bands to reestablish, but i dont think being 3rd on the bill and playing 45min sets is good at all, these bands are still big enought to only have 2 bands on the bill.
its going to suck seeing cheap trick only play 45 with journey.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:43 am**

sniper16 wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

That is dead wrong!! I know this for a fact!

what statement is dead wrong.

This one:

you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

i thought the original tour with journey styx and reo was good for the bands to reestablish, but i dont think being 3rd on the bill and playing 45min sets is good at all, these bands are still big enought to only have 2 bands on the bill.

Oh...so, what you meant to say was that in your opinion, you don't think it's a good idea - but *instead* you mistakenly typed that it makes less money than playing a rib fest.

I can see where we all misread that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:02 am**

God I love when Zan is sarcastic. :twisted:

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:02 am**

Toph wrote:
Zan wrote:
sniper16 wrote:you can make more money doing rib fests and local city fests, playing to 7/10000 than being 3rd on the bill to def leppard.
most of these places pay 30/50,000 for a show.

Methinks you might be surprised at how much a Def Leppard tour pays its "3rd bill."

I still think it's insane that Styx isn't headlining more.

They can headline in a bar in front of 500 people

How are they opening for Boston?

They are because they suck thats why

Why are they the third bill on the Def Leppard bill?

See above

They need to stand up and not take this "opening act" crap anymore!!

Yea Gowan stand up and don't take this crap anymore

Just market yourselves - they can still headline!!

I heard they are headlining at The Marriott over here in Chicago
The lounge Kona Kia

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:32 am**

Wasn't that where Dennis did his free show a little while back there Froy?

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:21 am**

i seriously doubt that styx was getting 40,000 a night for being 3rd on the bill to def leppard. closer to 20,000

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:09 am**

sniper16 wrote:i seriously doubt that styx was getting 40,000 a night for being 3rd on the bill to def leppard. closer to 20,000

So lets do some math.

Average ticket price =$60
Average Venue = 12,000
Total = $720,000

I'll give you that's gross, but regardless how you do the math, I'd bet that Styx' portion is more than $20,000.

Oh, and I forgot the tshirt sales.

Last night shirts from all 3 acts were being sold in drones.

But I forget, you are their accountant and know better than us.

Not to mention that Styx and REO alternate first and second positions.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:28 am**

styxfanNH wrote:
sniper16 wrote:i seriously doubt that styx was getting 40,000 a night for being 3rd on the bill to def leppard. closer to 20,000

So lets do some math.

Average ticket price =$60
Average Venue = 12,000
Total = $720,000

I'll give you that's gross, but regardless how you do the math, I'd bet that Styx' portion is more than $20,000.

Oh, and I forgot the tshirt sales.

Last night shirts from all 3 acts were being sold in drones.

But I forget, you are their accountant and know better than us.

Not to mention that Styx and REO alternate first and second positions.

While I agree that Styx earns more than the 20k mentioned, there are some variables your math isn't adding in.

Of the $720K...it assumes an average of 12k in attendance. That might be a stretch...even for a triple bill.

What's the breakdown of how much each act gets? Let's say 40/30/30 (40% for Leppard since they are the headliner). That makes $216K.

I'd guess an average night, less t-shirt sales and expenses about $100K over an aggregate. Some nights more, some less...hence average. How that is split and who covers what expenses they have is another matter.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:07 am**

Last night there were easily 12,000 there from beginning to end. I know that there a bunch of cuts into the gross, but if you say the bands get $200,000 to split, even 25% is $50,000 and that is probably closer to what Styx would get. (I'm thinking 50/25/25 split because Def Leppard's production costs are huge compared to the others). Just on the flat rate of the show plus percentage of sales.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:33 pm**

Jodes wrote:Wasn't that where Dennis did his free show a little while back there Froy?

Yea for me and my friends
Great show he did Father OSA that night.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:52 pm**

styxfanNH wrote:Last night there were easily 12,000 there from beginning to end. I know that there a bunch of cuts into the gross, but if you say the bands get $200,000 to split, even 25% is $50,000 and that is probably closer to what Styx would get. (I'm thinking 50/25/25 split because Def Leppard's production costs are huge compared to the others). Just on the flat rate of the show plus percentage of sales.

Fair enough...but let's remember that they won't always have that size audience either. Either way, I think they make more than the 20K mentioned before.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:25 pm**

sniper16 wrote:i seriously doubt that styx was getting 40,000 a night for being 3rd on the bill to def leppard. closer to 20,000

And you are seriously wrong.

Mark, your figures are a little closer to the...well, mark. ;-)

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:05 pm**

They're still making more than me for far less work ... and I make decent coin.

Posted: **Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:57 pm**

Thats bullshit Froy.. and you know it..

We all know that you don't have any friends!!!!

Posted: **Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:37 am**

Does the entertainment get to eat for free at these venues??

I am only asking because back in the early 90's ( grunge) Loverboy & Heart played alot of these type events??????

Posted: **Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:42 am**

I know I'm getting old when the ribs sound almost as tempting as the music!

MR

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