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Mr Roboto one of the worst videos of all time....

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:21 am
by Abitaman
According to Yahoo this vid is on the list along a few other stinkers. Check these bombs here http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/videog ... -all-time/

Agree with most, but come the Styx vid was a work of art for the time.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:01 am
by bugsymalone
There are some howlers on there. And "Rock Me Tonight" has got to be the worst video, ever. But Styx is in some pretty high concept company there.

Oh well........ :?


Bugsy

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:33 am
by LordofDaRing
First time I ever heard Mr. Roboto described as a racist type song (anti Asian???)

I liked Seperate Ways and that lady in the video was hot.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:41 am
by Hippie
LordofDaRing wrote:I liked Seperate Ways and that lady in the video was hot.


Yeah, but I agree with the Yahoo article. A band like Journey playing Air Instruments?!! :shock: is unforgivable even in 1983!

That vid makes me cringe!!!

BTW: The Roboto vid was IMO not that bad. The vid where Styx TRULY jumped the shark has got to be Music Time!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:51 am
by yogi
Music Time was AWEFUL. Pure crap!!


I too thought Roboto was good. I thought Heavy Metal Posioning was even better. Havent We Been Here Before was also good.

Love Is The Ritual & Love At First Sight were also very good Styx vids.


Styx's best video was Show Me The Way. It was a GREAT timeless video.

No video was as bad as JY's Wild Dogs In The Night.

It was the Plexi Glass Toilets of Videos.

I would say it is the worst video EVER!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:31 am
by Blue Falcon
No wonder JY's still mad:

STYX - "MR. ROBOTO"
The career-killing Styx debacle Kilroy Was Here was a high-camp 1983 concept album depicting a bleak future in which rock 'n' roll is outlawed and society is controlled by a Big Brother-esque, right-wing entity known as the Majority For Musical Morality (MMM). It would have been bad enough if Styx had just left it as a concept album, with its vaguely anti-Asian centerpiece "Mr. Roboto" (later heard in a gut-bustingly funny Volkswagen commercial). But the "Mr. Roboto" music video, starring an assembly line of slanted-eyed androids and an over-emoting Dennis DeYoung doing his corny Broadway schtick, pushed it even farther. And that's not all, folks! Styx, taking a cue from their almost equally abysmal Paradise Theater concept, had to turn Kilroy Was Here into a full-fledged stage musical, too--complete with changing sets, theatrical costumes, soft-shoe routines, and each band member playing a different character. This was how Styx chose to promote the Kilroy Was Here album on the road, and we're sure that by the time the band's many bewildered concertgoers had sat through this musical, they'd started to sympathize with the MMM and were also rallying for the outlawing of rock 'n' roll--or at least the outlawing of Styx:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:24 am
by yogi
One of the BEST if not the best concerts( saw it 5 times) I have ever been to!!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:21 am
by chowhall
yogi wrote:One of the BEST if not the best concerts( saw it 5 times) I have ever been to!!!


Saw it 3 times but I thought the Paradise Theatre tour was a better show.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:58 am
by yogi
Flip a coin.

I thought they both were GREAT.

I liked the video that started Kilroy. I even liked the concept.

Dennis was a 'maverick'!! Damn if that wouldnt have rolled off Sara Palin's tongue.

What I thought sucked was the album.

Still with that said you pretty much got their hits mixed in with the Kilroy concept.

The songs from that shi t rotten album played out well on tour.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:00 pm
by stmonkeys
i wouldn't say the robotto vid was necessarily BAD, it was boring. too much of the robotto suits, needed quicker edits and more band shots. having the clips from the "movie" helped, they could have interspersed more if it within the vid. IMO, it dragged. just a bit of editing would have helped.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:40 am
by brywool
Mr. Roboto was a terrible video and song. However, having said that, the movie that ran before the Styx shows for that tour was really cool. I think that the Kilroy CONCEPT was great. I just think that they made the wrong choice for the single to introduce that album. Nobody got it because they didn't know the concept. What SHOULD have happened was that they should've released that pre-concert film WITH Mr. Roboto put at the end of it for Mtv. THAT would've made the song much cooler and people would've understood what the concept for the song was all about. By itself, Mr. Roboto was a ridiculous video. I bet had they released both as one, it would've been a different story.

I remember waiting for that Mtv premiere of that video when I was a kid. I remember the "What the hell was that?????" after it too. In that 4 minute period, Styx pretty much killed their upward mobility. People didn't get it. They shouldn't have made that the lead-off single. In fact, other than "Don't Let it End", there wasn't much 'single' material on that album. "High Time"- COULD have been a good single, but the production is so funky. "Cold War" might've been a better choice. Good groove and pretty upbeat tune for that time. I remember that the "Heavy Metal Poisoning" video was pretty cool. Best shot was when Tommy stands up, does a guitar pull and wags his finger at JY. One of my favorite 3 seconds in Styx's career. Not sure why, I just dug it. I think Jy was pretty funny as Righteous too.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:42 am
by brywool
Blue Falcon wrote:No wonder JY's still mad:

STYX - "MR. ROBOTO"
The career-killing Styx debacle Kilroy Was Here was a high-camp 1983 concept album depicting a bleak future in which rock 'n' roll is outlawed and society is controlled by a Big Brother-esque, right-wing entity known as the Majority For Musical Morality (MMM). It would have been bad enough if Styx had just left it as a concept album, with its vaguely anti-Asian centerpiece "Mr. Roboto" (later heard in a gut-bustingly funny Volkswagen commercial). But the "Mr. Roboto" music video, starring an assembly line of slanted-eyed androids and an over-emoting Dennis DeYoung doing his corny Broadway schtick, pushed it even farther. And that's not all, folks! Styx, taking a cue from their almost equally abysmal Paradise Theater concept, had to turn Kilroy Was Here into a full-fledged stage musical, too--complete with changing sets, theatrical costumes, soft-shoe routines, and each band member playing a different character. This was how Styx chose to promote the Kilroy Was Here album on the road, and we're sure that by the time the band's many bewildered concertgoers had sat through this musical, they'd started to sympathize with the MMM and were also rallying for the outlawing of rock 'n' roll--or at least the outlawing of Styx:


Can't really argue with this, other than the slam on the Paradise Theatre concept, which was a great concept.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:04 am
by Abitaman
For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:20 am
by brywool
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:55 am
by yogi
There is no way that JY can be mad or cringe at anything or anybody video wise since he put out and acted in his 'Wild Dogs In The Night' video.

It is without a doubt the worst video EVER!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:47 am
by brywool
yogi wrote:There is no way that JY can be mad or cringe at anything or anybody video wise since he put out and acted in his 'Wild Dogs In The Night' video.

It is without a doubt the worst video EVER!!!!!



ooh, never saw that. that's gotta be horrendous.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:41 am
by bugsymalone
brywool wrote:Mr. Roboto was a terrible video and song. However, having said that, the movie that ran before the Styx shows for that tour was really cool. I think that the Kilroy CONCEPT was great. I just think that they made the wrong choice for the single to introduce that album. Nobody got it because they didn't know the concept. What SHOULD have happened was that they should've released that pre-concert film WITH Mr. Roboto put at the end of it for Mtv. THAT would've made the song much cooler and people would've understood what the concept for the song was all about. By itself, Mr. Roboto was a ridiculous video. I bet had they released both as one, it would've been a different story.

I remember waiting for that Mtv premiere of that video when I was a kid. I remember the "What the hell was that?????" after it too. In that 4 minute period, Styx pretty much killed their upward mobility. People didn't get it. They shouldn't have made that the lead-off single. In fact, other than "Don't Let it End", there wasn't much 'single' material on that album. "High Time"- COULD have been a good single, but the production is so funky. "Cold War" might've been a better choice. Good groove and pretty upbeat tune for that time. I remember that the "Heavy Metal Poisoning" video was pretty cool. Best shot was when Tommy stands up, does a guitar pull and wags his finger at JY. One of my favorite 3 seconds in Styx's career. Not sure why, I just dug it. I think Jy was pretty funny as Righteous too.


Weren't all those videos shot for the KWH album done in, like, a day? The production values were pretty low quality, IMO. HWBHB seems to have been done at a different time.

The little concert intro movie, on the other hand, was quite well done. And I didn't think Tommy, Dennis or John were THAT terrible in it. :wink: I remember liking it a lot the first time I saw it and have not changed my opinion of it at all.

(Back in the jungle of past threads here is much discussion on all this stuff. Haven't we been here before, indeed.)

Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:39 am
by Toph
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:07 am
by yogi
Is there anyone out there besides me that has seen JY's loose bowel movement inducing video 'Wild Dogs In The Night'.

Ive got it on VHS. I wish there was some way to link it here.


It's a must see only because its the worst video that has ever been made.

Someone link it here please!!!!!

You have just got to see JY crawling like a dog dressed up as the 'Blinded Me With Science' guy. Add to this his Pat Benetar chest shaking ala' Love Is a Battlefield' scene, and you've got diarrhea (with corn) right in front of you.

Pass the Kopectate please JY!!!!

Finally it is a known fact that soon after Wild Dogs aired on MTV, MTV stopped playing music videos all together.

You have got to see this for the pure horror value.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:54 pm
by brywool
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:03 pm
by yogi
The video for James JY Youngs 'Wild Dogs In The Night' was done in 1987 by a UCLA student. It aired 2 or 3 times on Headbangers Ball.

Worst video of all time.


Someone link it here PLEASE!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:32 am
by Real rock fan
Music Time is the worst video ever, absolute garbage :oops:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:19 pm
by Toph
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point


Point NOT MADE. Never compare a 90s techno wanna be modern rock song that by itself almost destroyed the entire Edge of the Century album by its lackluster performance as a first single to any of those other songs... Wasn't even Glen's best song on the album much less comparable to those songs.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:43 pm
by Jodes
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point


Point NOT MADE. Never compare a 90s techno wanna be modern rock song that by itself almost destroyed the entire Edge of the Century album by its lackluster performance as a first single to any of those other songs... Wasn't even Glen's best song on the album much less comparable to those songs.



So Toph, who's fault is that then? For once I guess we can't say it's Glen's!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:09 pm
by KWH17
Real rock fan wrote:Music Time is the worst video ever, absolute garbage :oops:


I wouldn't say it was a bad music video, just because it wasn't taking itself seriously.

I guess it all depends on taste, but I liked it because it was whacky and fun [which is what they were aiming for].

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:49 am
by Toph
Jodes wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point


Point NOT MADE. Never compare a 90s techno wanna be modern rock song that by itself almost destroyed the entire Edge of the Century album by its lackluster performance as a first single to any of those other songs... Wasn't even Glen's best song on the album much less comparable to those songs.



So Toph, who's fault is that then? For once I guess we can't say it's Glen's!


Not Glen's fault at all - I blame DDY/JY for that one...you haven't had a new record out there in what 7 years and the first single out of the gate sounds absolutely nothing like what you've done in the past? Release something that reminds people of you and then get them into the newer sounding stuff.

BTW, most under-rated Glen song on there is All In A Days Work.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:12 am
by brywool
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point


Point NOT MADE. Never compare a 90s techno wanna be modern rock song that by itself almost destroyed the entire Edge of the Century album by its lackluster performance as a first single to any of those other songs... Wasn't even Glen's best song on the album much less comparable to those songs.


You gotta be kidding or deaf. Love is the Ritual kicked major ass. Great groove, great guitar solo and that song gave Styx one thing they never had- "Soul". Love is the Ritual is a killer tune. How can you not like that one?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:20 am
by Toph
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:For not getting it, it went to #3 and was a gold single.



Wasn't "Oh Mickey You're So Fine" a number 1? Wow, guess that means it ranks up there with "You Light Up My Life". :roll:

"Number one" doesn't necessarily mean it's good song.
Very few "rock classics" never cracked Casey Casum's top ten. Guess to some here, that means they weren't worthy.
(Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Freebird, Money, Wish You Were Here, Love is the Ritual, etc.).


You didn't just mention Love Is the Ritual in the same sentence as Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell, Money, and Wish You Were Here, did you? Now that is a grand delusion!


Personally, I think it blows Stairway and Money away. The others are better tunes. It was in there to make a point


Point NOT MADE. Never compare a 90s techno wanna be modern rock song that by itself almost destroyed the entire Edge of the Century album by its lackluster performance as a first single to any of those other songs... Wasn't even Glen's best song on the album much less comparable to those songs.


You gotta be kidding or deaf. Love is the Ritual kicked major ass. Great groove, great guitar solo and that song gave Styx one thing they never had- "Soul". Love is the Ritual is a killer tune. How can you not like that one?


I don't not like it, but it just isn't one of my favorites. I'd give it a B minus. And you have to admit that today it sounds dated as hell. I actually like World Tonite better as a rocker - has more of a Styx sound.