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Where are JY and/or Tommy?

Posted:
Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:16 am
by Toph
On the list of the top 100 guitarists featured at melodicrock.com?

Posted:
Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:31 am
by bugsymalone
After reading the criteria, I see why some are on this list. Otherwise I would never include any of the Beatles.
Bugsy

Posted:
Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:21 pm
by StyxCollector
No offense, TS and JY are great for Styx but not even close to any Top lists for guitarists.

Posted:
Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:07 pm
by LordofDaRing
Very subjective. I think TS is one of the most underated guitar players around. Probably agree with you though, that they do not belong in a top ten list.

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:22 am
by Abitaman
LordofDaRing wrote: I think TS is one of the most underated guitar players around.
Agreed!!

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:07 am
by Blue Falcon
The fact is that shredder guitarists are a dime-a-dozen. Heck, even pretty good guitarists like JY and TS are too, unfortunately. While Styx fans can certainly appreciate their skills, neither one seems to have enough of an identifiable 'style' to set them apart. That's not an insult, though...few of their contemporaries do, either. Although I do think Neil Schon does.
Andy Summers from the Police is a great guitarist...not technically, but style and sound-wise. When you hear his guitar you can pretty much tell it's Andy Summers.

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:46 am
by Zan
Abitaman wrote:LordofDaRing wrote: I think TS is one of the most underated guitar players around.
Agreed!!
I third this motion. He is an incredible guitarist.
Then again, most EVERYONE from Styx is fairly under-rated when it comes to their playing abilities, always have been.

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:50 am
by Zan
Blue Falcon wrote:Andy Summers from the Police is a great guitarist...not technically, but style and sound-wise. When you hear his guitar you can pretty much tell it's Andy Summers.
That doesn't qualify as "great," IMO. Hell, if I played the guitar, it would have a pretty distinct sound too! 

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:29 am
by stmonkeys
Zan wrote:Abitaman wrote:LordofDaRing wrote: I think TS is one of the most underated guitar players around.
Agreed!!
I third this motion. He is an incredible guitarist.
Then again, most EVERYONE from Styx is fairly under-rated when it comes to their playing abilities, always have been.
4th! LOL TS is a very VERSATILE guitarist. He can prob out play many on the list on acoustic/12 string etc. Heck, Ted called him one of the greatest slide players he's heard. I wish we coudl hear more of that from Tommy. and more funk/blues.

T has a great sense of melody. i prefer his style to JY's, but that's me.


Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:32 am
by MCM
stmonkeys wrote:Zan wrote:Abitaman wrote:LordofDaRing wrote: I think TS is one of the most underated guitar players around.
Agreed!!
I third this motion. He is an incredible guitarist.
Then again, most EVERYONE from Styx is fairly under-rated when it comes to their playing abilities, always have been.
4th! LOL TS is a very VERSATILE guitarist. He can prob out play many on the list on acoustic/12 string etc. Heck, Ted called him one of the greatest slide players he's heard. I wish we coudl hear more of that from Tommy. and more funk/blues.

T has a great sense of melody. i prefer his style to JY's, but that's me.

A 5th in agreement. He may be one of my favorites, but trying to be objective, I still think he's underated.
100 worse guitar solos of all time

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:38 am
by pinkfloyd1973
http://www.guitarworld.com/article/100_worst_guitar_solos?page=0%2C0
90 STYX
“Mr. Roboto”
Kilroy Was Here (1983)
GUITARIST: Tommy Shaw
Any number of Styx tunes belong on this list, from the creepy ballad “Babe” to the pompous rocker “Come Sail Away,” but here Tommy Shaw’s playing is so stiff, lifeless and predictable that you wish the band had replaced him with a robot
Robin 
Re: 100 worse guitar solos of all time

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:32 pm
by stmonkeys
pinkfloyd1973 wrote: http://www.guitarworld.com/article/100_worst_guitar_solos?page=0%2C0
90 STYX
“Mr. Roboto”
Kilroy Was Here (1983)
GUITARIST: Tommy Shaw
Any number of Styx tunes belong on this list, from the creepy ballad “Babe” to the pompous rocker “Come Sail Away,” but here Tommy Shaw’s playing is so stiff, lifeless and predictable that you wish the band had replaced him with a robot
Robin 
mr robotto has a guitar solo?????

Posted:
Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:48 pm
by BlackWall
I was thinking the same thing..

Posted:
Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:21 am
by brywool
There's hardly any guitar at all in Mr. Roboto.... Stupid.
Tommy's a BRILLIANT slide guitar player. His Damn Yankees stuff was amazing. Seriously good player.
The Renegade solo (JY) should've been inlcuded as one of the great guitar solos. I've never been able to figure out that first lick in there. Great solo.

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Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:14 am
by StyxCollector
No one ever said TS is a bad guitar player. Far from it. He can hold his own. In my estimation, he's a good acoustic player and very, very good slide player (he did it early on with Styx, wish he would do it more), but a mediocre "normal" guitarist. He himself has admitted, for example, that he still has problems playing that end solo in Come Sail Away (which is in C major). He's much more comfortble (IMO) on an acoustic-based instruments. His playing on the S/B tours was some of the better playing I've seen from Tommy. Tommy is more versatile than JY as well.

Posted:
Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:11 am
by Ehwmatt
I don't know guys, there's been some incredibly classic guitar in Styx songs over the years. Not just solos either, but also riffs and acoustic parts. The two solos in Grand Illusion really come to mind - very inventive use of whammy bar/wah etc. The harmony line Killing The Thing That You Love isn't technically difficult, but very good. Crystal Ball is a 12-string classic, the solos in Come Sail Away, The Best Of Times is classic, Castle Walls... there's a lot of great playing. I think Tommy and JY make a great duo. Sure, they might not hold up against Petrucci or Satriani in a one-on-one duel, but they play great together and both have written some really catchy solos. I count JY and Tommy both as among some of the more talented guitarists in their genre, and certainly one of the best two guitar attacks. Gillis and Watson are another pair that come to mind.

Posted:
Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:37 am
by brywool
Ehwmatt wrote:I don't know guys, there's been some incredibly classic guitar in Styx songs over the years. Not just solos either, but also riffs and acoustic parts. The two solos in Grand Illusion really come to mind - very inventive use of whammy bar/wah etc. The harmony line Killing The Thing That You Love isn't technically difficult, but very good. Crystal Ball is a 12-string classic, the solos in Come Sail Away, The Best Of Times is classic, Castle Walls... there's a lot of great playing. I think Tommy and JY make a great duo. Sure, they might not hold up against Petrucci or Satriani in a one-on-one duel, but they play great together and both have written some really catchy solos. I count JY and Tommy both as among some of the more talented guitarists in their genre, and certainly one of the best two guitar attacks. Gillis and Watson are another pair that come to mind.
They're both tasteful players that fit great with what Styx is.

Posted:
Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:41 am
by froy
brywool wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I don't know guys, there's been some incredibly classic guitar in Styx songs over the years. Not just solos either, but also riffs and acoustic parts. The two solos in Grand Illusion really come to mind - very inventive use of whammy bar/wah etc. The harmony line Killing The Thing That You Love isn't technically difficult, but very good. Crystal Ball is a 12-string classic, the solos in Come Sail Away, The Best Of Times is classic, Castle Walls... there's a lot of great playing. I think Tommy and JY make a great duo. Sure, they might not hold up against Petrucci or Satriani in a one-on-one duel, but they play great together and both have written some really catchy solos. I count JY and Tommy both as among some of the more talented guitarists in their genre, and certainly one of the best two guitar attacks. Gillis and Watson are another pair that come to mind.
They're both tasteful players that fit great with what Styx is.
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