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Jagger and Richards will turn 66 in 2009, McCartney 67, Townsend 64.....all of these guys and their bands are still out there playing shows.....( the stones had their 1st farewell tour in 1981 ! )

B.B King had his farewell tour in 2006 at age 80. Could Styx make it to a similar milestone ?

Do any of you prognosticators care to make a guess regarding the year of the Styx farewell tour ? Will it be triggered by economics ? lack of passion/interest by the players ? or will it take the passing of Shaw or Young to bring "the end" ?


Discuss amongst yourselves.......

at least another 10 years.
they were at the top of the world and then had a sudden fall. the last ten years they have been rising at a steady rate back up. why stop now?
(getting ready for some stupid Froy comment, or someone else who doesn't have a clue)

From what I've seen they started to dip out slowly after Cyclorama, but just this year started to pick themselves up again. I believe that this is going to be the "big boost" to get them back in the game. Their music is being given bigger presence this year, and their joint tour is being sponsored by none other than Rock Band, which has quickly usurped Guitar Hero as the premier music based game. As I've said, if all this exposure was followed by a new album, and given that they were able to properly promote a single from that album, then they would be where they were between BNW and Cyclo.


As an aside, I think if they were to last 10 more years, thats plenty of time for a full reunion.
I know, I know, the dead horse, but from what I've gathered in interviews from DDY and TS, the hostility between them isn't there anymore, and the only one who would [obviously] be against it would be JY.

the last ten years they have been rising at a steady rate back up.

Boy are you stupid

KWH17 wrote:From what I've seen they started to dip out slowly after Cyclorama, but just this year started to pick themselves up again. I believe that this is going to be the "big boost" to get them back in the game. Their music is being given bigger presence this year, and their joint tour is being sponsored by none other than Rock Band, which has quickly usurped Guitar Hero as the premier music based game. As I've said, if all this exposure was followed by a new album, and given that they were able to properly promote a single from that album, then they would be where they were between BNW and Cyclo. As an aside, I think if they were to last 10 more years, thats plenty of time for a full reunion. I know, I know, the dead horse, but from what I've gathered in interviews from DDY and TS, the hostility between them isn't there anymore, and the only one who would [obviously] be against it would be JY.

agree with you there. as much as i love the god father of styx if he can't grow up then maybe he should be replaced. maybe by jimmy? i think he and tommy would instantly click. tommy d blows imo. let the bashing begin.

okay, listen up.
they don't like each other.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

Thenightbull wrote:

KWH17 wrote:From what I've seen they started to dip out slowly after Cyclorama, but just this year started to pick themselves up again. I believe that this is going to be the "big boost" to get them back in the game. Their music is being given bigger presence this year, and their joint tour is being sponsored by none other than Rock Band, which has quickly usurped Guitar Hero as the premier music based game. As I've said, if all this exposure was followed by a new album, and given that they were able to properly promote a single from that album, then they would be where they were between BNW and Cyclo. As an aside, I think if they were to last 10 more years, thats plenty of time for a full reunion. I know, I know, the dead horse, but from what I've gathered in interviews from DDY and TS, the hostility between them isn't there anymore, and the only one who would [obviously] be against it would be JY.

agree with you there. as much as i love the god father of styx if he can't grow up then maybe he should be replaced. maybe by jimmy? i think he and tommy would instantly click. tommy d blows imo. let the bashing begin.

Tommy D rocks my socks off (right Amanda?)



Robin 8)

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up.
they don't like each other.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

says you

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up.
they don't like each other.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

Okay you listen up punk
STYX is out to get paid and they will sing the same damn songs for the next 10 years if fools like you are dumb enough to
pay them,
Dennis 's new cd blows anything Gowan and Shaw and Jimmy have ever done.
They are a spinal tap act singing the road is long and we will be strong.
Plain and simple they suck without a major songwritter and both Glen and Dennis are gone.
STYX needs them both and to bad they can beg to get them back.
The STYX legacy is destroyed plain and simple

froy wrote:

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up.
they don't like each other.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

Okay you listen up punk
STYX is out to get paid and they will sing the same damn songs for the next 10 years if fools like you are dumb enough to
pay them,
Dennis 's new cd blows anything Gowan and Shaw and Jimmy have ever done.
They are a spinal tap act singing the road is long and we will be strong.
Plain and simple they suck without a major songwritter and both Glen and Dennis are gone.
STYX needs them both and to bad they can beg to get them back.
The STYX legacy is destroyed plain and simple

you haven't seen Styx in the last 10 years have you?

foolintherain wrote:

froy wrote:

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up. they don't like each other. Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it. Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't. that's the deal.

Okay you listen up punk STYX is out to get paid and they will sing the same damn songs for the next 10 years if fools like you are dumb enough to pay them, Dennis 's new cd blows anything Gowan and Shaw and Jimmy have ever done. They are a spinal tap act singing the road is long and we will be strong. Plain and simple they suck without a major songwritter and both Glen and Dennis are gone. STYX needs them both and to bad they can beg to get them back. The STYX legacy is destroyed plain and simple

you haven't seen Styx in the last 10 years have you?

i think we all know the answer to that question.

classicstyxfan wrote:Jagger and Richards will turn 66 in 2009, McCartney 67, Townsend 64.....all of these guys and their bands are still out there playing shows.....( the stones had their 1st farewell tour in 1981 ! )

B.B King had his farewell tour in 2006 at age 80. Could Styx make it to a similar milestone ?

Do any of you prognosticators care to make a guess regarding the year of the Styx farewell tour ? Will it be triggered by economics ? lack of passion/interest by the players ? or will it take the passing of Shaw or Young to bring "the end" ?


Discuss amongst yourselves.......

(((gawd ))) This one degenerated so quickly. Anyway, classic, I don't think ANY performer/musician who has this in his/her blood can ever stop performing. As long as they can do it, and someone will come see them, they will get up on that stage. Hell, Etta James, seventy-something, performs in her wheelchair. I have a feeling Jagger and the has-to-be-already-dead-and-now-a-zombie, Keith Richards will perform with their walkers right beside them. Ditto a plethora of other aging rockers.

To many of these performers, performing is who they are. And they cannot stop being who they are.

Bugsy

bugsymalone wrote:

classicstyxfan wrote:Jagger and Richards will turn 66 in 2009, McCartney 67, Townsend 64.....all of these guys and their bands are still out there playing shows.....( the stones had their 1st farewell tour in 1981 ! )

B.B King had his farewell tour in 2006 at age 80. Could Styx make it to a similar milestone ?

Do any of you prognosticators care to make a guess regarding the year of the Styx farewell tour ? Will it be triggered by economics ? lack of passion/interest by the players ? or will it take the passing of Shaw or Young to bring "the end" ?


Discuss amongst yourselves.......

(((gawd ))) This one degenerated so quickly. Anyway, classic, I don't think ANY performer/musician who has this in his/her blood can ever stop performing. As long as they can do it, and someone will come see them, they will get up on that stage. Hell, Etta James, seventy-something, performs in her wheelchair. I have a feeling Jagger and the has-to-be-already-dead-and-now-a-zombie, Keith Richards will perform with their walkers right beside them. Ditto a plethora of other aging rockers.

To many of these performers, performing is who they are. And they cannot stop being who they are.

Bugsy

Keith Richards looks like death warmed over


Robin

No sorry Froy, Seven Deadly Zens > 100 Years.. (Canadian Version)

Not by much mind you, but because of clunkers like Respect Me and Forgiveness and the shmaltz of I Believe in You, I have to go with 7DZ..

BUT I still have yet to hear the "new" 100 Years with the two new tracks and from the sounds of it remixes of many of the songs.


Now that gives me and idea.. time to go through DM, BTTW, BC and 100 Years (sorry no 10 on Broadway or DDY Live with the Symphony) and put the best tracks on a CDR.

I should be able to find 16-17 songs on those cds..

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

It's true that DDY and TS have not been in contact, and they certainly don't read eachothers interviews, but if they actually knew what the other one was saying about them then things would probably change pretty quickly, well if it wasn't for JY. Others have suggested replacing JY, but even though he is really annoying, I like him enough to say that he should stay. He just needs to let go if his rediculous 10 year-old grudges

Dennis doesn't want to rock? 100 years says otherwise. Desert Moon that album is not.

Dennis has no stage energy? I've not seen him live myself, but from videos I've seen he DOES carry a presence. Hell, I'm watching him through a crappy youtube video and I still feel his energy. Sure he doesn't move around a lot, but look at the Caught in the Act show, he wasn't jumping around and going crazy back then either. I think he carries himself just fine on stage.

As for him not rocking the house, all I've gotta say is that if he had Styx playing behind him instead of his touring band, he WOULD rock the house!

It's true that both factions have their own agendas, DDY doesn't like extensive touring, Styx does, but when everyone is together something just seems to click. I do not attribute this to DDY alone, because he alone didn't make Styx as he has often said; It was all three pieces that completed the puzzle.

Until they can get one of those money making deals like Reo and Journey got from Walmart, I think they'll keep rolling along.

Jodes wrote:No sorry Froy, Seven Deadly Zens > 100 Years.. (Canadian Version)

Not by much mind you, but because of clunkers like Respect Me and Forgiveness and the shmaltz of I Believe in You, I have to go with 7DZ..

BUT I still have yet to hear the "new" 100 Years with the two new tracks and from the sounds of it remixes of many of the songs.

7 Zens is close but 100 wins
I Belive In You is a great song
The new songs on 100 are great.

foolintherain wrote:okay, listen up.
they don't like each other.
Styx want to rock and Dennis doesn't. He does what he wants and they do what they want. that's it.
Dennis has no stage energy. Styx rock the house. he doesn't.
that's the deal.

Saw DDY a couple of years and while he did play one of the worst concert songs in the history of rock n roll, Babe, his show actually rocked pretty good. I left very impressed, most impressed because he did demonstrate energy and put out good effort, even though the crowd was very small.

Having said that, I've seen Styx many times post-DDY and they have never failed to put on a good show. Same songs...yes...but they entertained and sounded great. I'm not offended by Gowan, but it would indeed be much better with DDY back in the fold.

Cyclorama is much underated. Solid CD. Not sure why they don't do more from that on tour.

I think Uncle Paul hinted that this next tour will be his last, he must need some bucks to pay off that little witch he was married to. Havning said that, I will shell out the big bucks to see him one last time. Maybe he will bring Ringo with him on some dates. Nothing wrong with the guy he has now playing the skins.

I think that a Damn Yankees reunion will happen before a full Styx reunion will. I don't see JY doing it, and he is so lawyer happy I have a feeling that if Tommy and Dennis tried it would be tied up in the courts. Even if they did - I don't know that I would want to see it. It is a different energy with Dennis in the band. Not saying that is good or bad - just different. I have seen every incarnation of the band, and if I am going to spend my hard earned dollars - it would be for the one now.

You saw them pre Tommy with J.C.????

I sure wished that I would have.

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:Tommy D rocks my socks off (right Amanda?)
Robin 8)

You bet! I'm right there with ya!

Well, I'll weigh in on this with my first post.

I saw Styx (the real band) for the last time in March, 1981 in Richfield, Ohio (my beloved old Coliseum). Too somehow suggest that DDY has no stage presence simply ignores the fact that for so many years, this group was a fantastic live band. That Paradise Theater show ranks as one of the top five concerts that I've ever been to (and I've been to 100s in my life). I've also watched the Return To Paradise stuff and would agree that DDY had lost some of that presence. In fact, I wish he wouldn't use the long, schmaltzy intros to his songs. But, look on You Tube and find the TS and DDY Borders book show where just Tommy and Dennis do a couple of songs and, hell, it's wonderful. Sitting down on a stool and singing, DDY has more stage presence than Gowan.

I've also gone to see what I consider to be Styx lite (without DDY) and although they still put on a decent show, I think it's a joke that they call themselves "Styx". Styx without DDY (just like Styx without TS) isn't Styx.

Now, I am not some big DDY supporter. In fact, when the Behind the Music episode first aired, I wasn't surprised to find out that DDY was kind of a jerk. After reading Sterling's book, I still wasn't surprised. Truth be told, I like TS much more and think that he is the member of Styx with the most energy and heart. Nevertheless, the band is all of them (well, the main 3, anyway-not to knock the brothers, but, sorry bass and drums were never the big thing in this band).

I like Styx, but, I wouldn't put them in my top 10 (or even 15) bands of all time. The Allmans are my favorite and, quite frankly, I consider their current lineup (without Dickey Betts) NOT to be the Allmans. In fact, I have not seen them since they threw Dickey out. Not because I'm some huge Betts supporter (in fact, I like Gregg better) but, because, they are not the Allman Brothers without, at least, Gregg and Dickey (and Butch and Jaimoe). Duane and Berry died long before I was a fan and so, for me, the classic lineup was the one that recorded the bulk of Eat A Peach and Brothers and Sisters. I have no problem going to see Gregg solo (Gregg Allman and Friends) or Dickey solo, but, the current lineup, to me, is not the Allmans.

Sorry, so too for Styx. I saw them once minus DDY and won't go again. As to the question of a reunion, I'm sure it will happen sooner rather than later. Chuck has hinted at it and from what I know, DDY and TS have an OK relationship. And, don't forget, in the end (esp. at their age) it's about MONEY. Not art or principles, but MONEY. If there is money to be made (and there will be), JY and DDY will bury the hatchet and tour together. Truthfully, it would be sad if this really great band had as their legacy the last 25 years (minus the 96 reunion).

And, BTW, whoever posted upthread about Glen, sorry, he is not in TS's or DDY's (or even JY's) league.

And just where has Chuck hinted at a reunion.. do tell.

Jodes wrote:And just where has Chuck hinted at a reunion.. do tell.

I just read it in the last few months. He said something to the effect of it would be nice to get the band together again before anyone else dies. I'll try somewhere to find the link.

mrbluesman wrote:

Jodes wrote:And just where has Chuck hinted at a reunion.. do tell.

I just read it in the last few months. He said something to the effect of it would be nice to get the band together again before anyone else dies. I'll try somewhere to find the link.

I remember reading this somewhere too and I had to dig through Chuck's Book reviews to find it.


http://blogs.tampabay.com/80s/2007/05/i ... with_.html

On DeYoung's possible return to the band: "Before any more of us die, I would hope that it could happen. Every year that it doesn't happen is another year that goes by. And if you wait too long, who will care?"

Thanks Styxfansite, you saved me from hours of surfing looking for that damn quote

On another thread, members were discussing how the new website which almost completely cuts any part DDY's part in their history out as an indicator that it won't happen, or at least not soon.

The problem is that even though both Tommy and DDY have been saying nice things about each other in recent interviews, they have not been in contact for many years; DDY said so. As well, I'm sure they don't go looking for each other's interviews just to see what the other one has to say about the other. So neither knows what the other is thinking. The two, if they knew, could easily resolve their problems [c'mon, it's been ten years, time to give it up]. The only real weak link is JY who has consistently derided DDY in all of his interviews, and clearly hates him.

I honestly do see them getting back together, I just can't tell when. It's not going to happen this year, and I don't think next year either [I said in another thread that they are probably working on a new CD to compete with 100 Years, which would probably be released next year].

I'm sure a lot of you would disagree, but it is just my speculation.

I'm going to hazard a guess that given all the overlap of people they all work with, they are most likely aware of who has said what about whom. Whether or not the band "reunites" is anyone's guess at this point.