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Worst version of renegade i have ever heard

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:47 am
by Everett
Anyone else see it on idol tonight? worst version ever. where was light up when you needed them?

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:16 am
by DarrenUK
Sucked ................... It was that bad you could of mistaken it for Music Time.

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:46 pm
by pinkfloyd1973
DarrenUK wrote:Sucked ................... It was that bad you could of mistaken it for Music Time.




Well I dunno about that, but a little later in the show there was a less than stellar version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" was definitely cringe-worthy :shock:



Robin :?

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:56 pm
by Jodes
Someone else did Renegade tonight on American Idol?

Wow..

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:56 pm
by stmonkeys
it wasn't that bad, although i think chris daughtr did a better job a few years back. but none of them come close to tommy. he's got nothing to worry about. ;)


danny should NOT have done Dream On. and kara is clueless. she told him to do early aerosmith instead. Dream on was their FIRST HIT! you can't GET any earlier than that! He should have done something like BTO's Let It Ride, or American Woman instead. much better suited for his voice.

kris did a safe, forgettable version of come together. allison's version of cry baby was good, but lacked the emotion janis brought to the original.

loved allison and adam's duet. they should record together. and slash needs adam to sing on his next album. didn't love his version of whole lotta love (would have prefered to hear him do gnr), but it certainly was the performance of the night.

top two: adam and allison

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:00 am
by bugsymalone
stmonkeys: it wasn't that bad, although i think chris daughtry did a better job a few years back. but none of them come close to tommy. he's got nothing to worry about.


Agreed. Actually, the harmony parts with Kris and Danny were spot-on perfect. Very nice. It was just when they tried to "sing" the rock parts that they got into trouble. That and the fact that Danny is annoying as hell. Cannot go home soon enough and I hope "Dream On" is the vehicle he can ride on out the door. That version was all kinds of fail. Yuck!

Bugsy

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:43 am
by brywool
stmonkeys wrote:it wasn't that bad, although i think chris daughtr did a better job a few years back. but none of them come close to tommy. he's got nothing to worry about. ;)


danny should NOT have done Dream On. and kara is clueless. she told him to do early aerosmith instead. Dream on was their FIRST HIT! you can't GET any earlier than that! He should have done something like BTO's Let It Ride, or American Woman instead. much better suited for his voice.

kris did a safe, forgettable version of come together. allison's version of cry baby was good, but lacked the emotion janis brought to the original.

loved allison and adam's duet. they should record together. and slash needs adam to sing on his next album. didn't love his version of whole lotta love (would have prefered to hear him do gnr), but it certainly was the performance of the night.

top two: adam and allison


I KNEW he was going to do Come Together. Beatles are my favs, but that song... eehhh. If he wanted to do something to put him on the map, he shoulda done Helter Skelter.

Dream On was embarrassingly bad. Felt for the guy.

Adam... sick of him. I could not listen to an hour of that voice. I can't watch him for more than 2 minutes. Did like his duo with the girl.
I think that allison was right on point when she said "Piece of my heart has been done on this show so many times". I would've liked her to do something by the TRUE queen or female rock vocalists- Ann MF Wilson. Can't stand Joplin.

Re: Worst version of renegade i have ever heard

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:48 am
by cinj
Thenightbull wrote:Anyone else see it on idol tonight? worst version ever. where was light up when you needed them?


Funny, when I saw your post, I thought you were alluding to something completely different:

We just downloaded "Renegade" for Rock Band 2 on our Wii. Now, this may have been discussed before, but the new downloads for this game of certain Styx songs are all Tommy Shaw songs. Now, I don't have an issue with that, but what I do have an issue with, is apparently they re-recorded the tracks - so no Dennis!

The harmonies without DDY leave so much to be desired - especially the accapella part at the beginning.
Truly a horrible "version" of this great song.

Cinj

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:07 am
by Toph
stmonkeys wrote:it wasn't that bad, although i think chris daughtr did a better job a few years back. but none of them come close to tommy. he's got nothing to worry about. ;)


danny should NOT have done Dream On. and kara is clueless. she told him to do early aerosmith instead. Dream on was their FIRST HIT! you can't GET any earlier than that! He should have done something like BTO's Let It Ride, or American Woman instead. much better suited for his voice.

kris did a safe, forgettable version of come together. allison's version of cry baby was good, but lacked the emotion janis brought to the original.

loved allison and adam's duet. they should record together. and slash needs adam to sing on his next album. didn't love his version of whole lotta love (would have prefered to hear him do gnr), but it certainly was the performance of the night.

top two: adam and allison


Most people I've talked say that Daughtry sung it better than Tommy.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:12 am
by yogi
All I know is that my 7 year old son had nightmares all night after hearing one of our favorite songs 'Dream On' butchered by Danny

That rendition was pure torture!!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:41 am
by Ehwmatt
Toph wrote:
stmonkeys wrote:it wasn't that bad, although i think chris daughtr did a better job a few years back. but none of them come close to tommy. he's got nothing to worry about. ;)


danny should NOT have done Dream On. and kara is clueless. she told him to do early aerosmith instead. Dream on was their FIRST HIT! you can't GET any earlier than that! He should have done something like BTO's Let It Ride, or American Woman instead. much better suited for his voice.

kris did a safe, forgettable version of come together. allison's version of cry baby was good, but lacked the emotion janis brought to the original.

loved allison and adam's duet. they should record together. and slash needs adam to sing on his next album. didn't love his version of whole lotta love (would have prefered to hear him do gnr), but it certainly was the performance of the night.

top two: adam and allison


Most people I've talked say that Daughtry sung it better than Tommy.


You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:09 am
by bugsymalone
The original version of "Renegade" is impossible to beat. Starting with the crystal pure harmonies done by the classic lineup, through the yell by Dennis, to the whole kick-out-the jams rock part. I love the version on the RTP DVD.


Bugsy

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:09 am
by brywool
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:10 am
by bugsymalone
yogi wrote:All I know is that my 7 year old son had nightmares all night after hearing one of our favorite songs 'Dream On' butchered by Danny

That rendition was pure torture!!


You have got to look for the "screaming cat" video of the last part of this song by Gokey (Goatkey to many of us.). It is, well, screamingly funny. I think it is on YouTube.

Bugsy

ETA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6wiYAJjaGo

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:11 am
by brywool
bugsymalone wrote:I love the version on the RTP DVD.



Except Dennis ALWAYS whimped out on the scream at the beginning.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:30 am
by LordofDaRing
WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.

You are so right there, talking about cringing, how bout both of them on We are the World. Throw in a little Michael Jackson and Cyndy Lauper and you have something that we could have used at GITMO to make them all talk :)

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:41 am
by Ehwmatt
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Don't make me link Deano to this post, LOL. I do love Springsteen. Dylan not so much, outside of some select tracks...

As for the original Renegade, man, that guitar solo is just great. I can't really quite ever get what JY's doing there. It's a shame I hardly ever hear that solo because I don't really listen to the song that much any more, but anyway... killer guitar.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:51 am
by sadie65
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Don't make me link Deano to this post, LOL. I do love Springsteen. Dylan not so much, outside of some select tracks...

As for the original Renegade, man, that guitar solo is just great. I can't really quite ever get what JY's doing there. It's a shame I hardly ever hear that solo because I don't really listen to the song that much any more, but anyway... killer guitar.


Springsteen...cannot sing. And while I will always respect peoples' tastes differing from mine, the man simply has no singing talent. Song writing I will cede. He has written some pretty great tunes. But puhlease...someone muzzle him and stop him from singing them. :lol: I'd say the same thing about Dylan.

And let's leave Deano to his illusions of grandeur on the board up above. :lol: No need to subject these nice people to him.

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:42 am
by Abitaman
DarrenUK wrote:Sucked ................... It was that bad you could of mistaken it for Music Time.


That is pretty bad!!!!!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:57 am
by Ehwmatt
sadie65 wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Don't make me link Deano to this post, LOL. I do love Springsteen. Dylan not so much, outside of some select tracks...

As for the original Renegade, man, that guitar solo is just great. I can't really quite ever get what JY's doing there. It's a shame I hardly ever hear that solo because I don't really listen to the song that much any more, but anyway... killer guitar.


Springsteen...cannot sing. And while I will always respect peoples' tastes differing from mine, the man simply has no singing talent. Song writing I will cede. He has written some pretty great tunes. But puhlease...someone muzzle him and stop him from singing them. :lol: I'd say the same thing about Dylan.

And let's leave Deano to his illusions of grandeur on the board up above. :lol: No need to subject these nice people to him.


I dunno, Bruce doesn't have singing "chops" per se but to me he's got an uncanny ability to make his voice fit his songs (actually, probably in reverse order) I've never minded his singing, not on one song. Part of the Springsteen experience for me is the E Street Band and the production on all of his albums. Both are incredibly good. The production on his CDs is stellar, from guitar sounds to vocal mixing right down to the "lowly" drum sound, which a lot of people overlook. I love listening to albums where I can hear different little things every time. But hey, that's just me. No need to turn this into a Springsteen thread :lol:

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:15 am
by froy
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Yep

For You
Manfred Mann
Killer tune written by Sprinsteen

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:23 am
by Jodes
How about Nitty Gritty's version of Cadillac Ranch? Way better then the Boss's!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:23 am
by brywool
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Don't make me link Deano to this post, LOL. I do love Springsteen. Dylan not so much, outside of some select tracks...

As for the original Renegade, man, that guitar solo is just great. I can't really quite ever get what JY's doing there. It's a shame I hardly ever hear that solo because I don't really listen to the song that much any more, but anyway... killer guitar.


JY's guitar solo is great. Tried to figure it out years ago and was never able to

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:04 am
by gr8dane
froy wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


Yep

For You
Manfred Mann
Killer tune written by Sprinsteen


Add to those 'Blinded by the light' and 'Spirits in the night'.
I like Manfred's versions better.

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:47 am
by foolintherain
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
You can't sing a song better than the singer who made it popular... lol.


WRONG.
Any Dylan or Springsteen song that's been covered by someone else is better.


you haven't got a clue.