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Riverfest 2006
Head East $7,500
Tesla $35,000
Loverboy $15,000
REO Speedwagon $50,000
Foghat $15,000
Outlaws $10,000
Styx $50,000
Silvertide $10,000
Trapt and Shinedown $50,000

2007 Riverfest

Little River Band $20,000
Eddie Money $20,000
Blue Oyster Cult $15,000
Cheap Trick $50,000
Grand Funk $27,500
John Kay & Steppenwolf $35,000
Escape From Earth $600
Kicking K8 $1,000
12 Stones $0
Crossfade $16,000
Saliva $19,000

Riverfest 2008

Seether $40,000
REO Speedwagon $55,000
Molly Hatchet $15,000
Joan Jett $40,000
The Beach Boys $60,000

Riverfest 2009

The Guess Who $35,000
The Grass Roots $10,000
Survivor $16,500
Trapt $20,000
The Beach Boys $60,000


This must be why they still tour.

Yeah, and that's not to mention a cut of gate sales, merchandise, concessions, etc. That's just their guarantee. And it's actually pretty cheap. I know booking Def Leppard and Journey during their tour in 2006 cost $250,000.

Hmmm normally 50% of that goes to overhead, so each member of Styx is making maybe around $5K a night. Not bad. If Chuck shows up, a little less.

Loverboy - $15K???? Doesn't even pay for Mike Reno's dinner tab...

LordofDaRing wrote:Hmmm normally 50% of that goes to overhead, so each member of Styx is making maybe around $5K a night. Not bad. If Chuck shows up, a little less.

Loverboy - $15K???? Doesn't even pay for Mike Reno's dinner tab...

Actually what's more likely is that most of the band members are salaried players, either per week or per show, and Tommy and JY split the proceeds after paying overhead and salaries. That's the way it almost always works in these situations. I'm not 100% sure in this case but it's a safe assumption. It was this way as recently as a few years ago, and they really have no incentive to change it.

I hope all is well.

Sterling

From my expereince this past summer.
Three Doors Down - $100K
David Cook - $100K
Sugarland - $150K
Billy Squier - $50K
Eddie Money - $50K

Production costs are extra - generally $20K per night.

Like Sterling said, most of these bands are run like a business. Ricky, Todd, and Larry are contracted employees that are paid a salary, plus per diem. Any amounts above costs go to the business and the business owners decide what to do from there.

Some band will bring members in as part owners meaning they have an uneven split of the profits.

Bands that draw well also will get part of the gate beyond their guarantee which is what is listed here. Merchandise all goes to the business.

Contracted employees are sometimes paid yearly, weekly, or per show and generally get a guaranteed retainer per contract. This binds them to the performer for XX amount of time and they are guaranteed to be paid even if no shows are played. There were guys in GNR for the last couple of years that were pulling six figure salaries and not playing any shows. The negative part is that they had to get clearance from the business (Axl) to do any other work.

Bands fees are also very fluid. They charge different amounts per market. They will charge higher rates for weekends and even higher rates for Holiday weekends. Lower rates in the off season.

Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

They had Carl Dixon who was unreal until they dumped him like assholes when he had his accident last year.

So Fool, do you honestly think that Carl could manage 50-60 dates a year with the band after his car accident?

Or do you have more "insider" information that we don't know about?

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

You'd have to be a complete buffoon to go see "The Guess Who" now. I just saw Randy and Burton a few weeks ago in Windsor - AWESOME. Burton quit smoking and he sounds better than he has in years.

Jim Kale can't keep his nose out of the bottle and Gary Peterson looks like a retired cop who kept up w/ his donut habit. Pitiful. I'm not one to pre-judge bands w/ replacements... I like Journey, Styx, the current LRB and what not, but they at least still have a core member or two (LRB is debatable if you're a hardcore I guess). The Guess Who was Randy and Burton, period.

Yeppers.. There's a reason why the "Faux" version doesn't even bother to tour Canada.. They'd get boo'd right off the stage.

Jodes wrote:Yeppers.. There's a reason why the "Faux" version doesn't even bother to tour Canada.. They'd get boo'd right off the stage.

That'd make for a fun YouTube video... I wonder what kind of heavy objects would fly towards the stage?

Well I wouldn't go as far as to insult the way they look.. that's pretty petty, especially for most of the past 20 years Randy Bachman really wasn't the epitomy of slim and trim either..

I wonder if they have a "no play" clause in Canada as the Guess Who..

Jodes wrote:Well I wouldn't go as far as to insult the way they look.. that's pretty petty, especially for most of the past 20 years Randy Bachman really wasn't the epitomy of slim and trim either..

I wonder if they have a "no play" clause in Canada as the Guess Who..

They do have an agreement,,you people are such idiots.

Ehwmatt wrote:

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

You'd have to be a complete buffoon to go see "The Guess Who" now. I just saw Randy and Burton a few weeks ago in Windsor - AWESOME. Burton quit smoking and he sounds better than he has in years.

Jim Kale can't keep his nose out of the bottle and Gary Peterson looks like a retired cop who kept up w/ his donut habit. Pitiful. I'm not one to pre-judge bands w/ replacements... I like Journey, Styx, the current LRB and what not, but they at least still have a core member or two (LRB is debatable if you're a hardcore I guess). The Guess Who was Randy and Burton, period.

Burton sounds like shit..has NO voice left. He's like a really bad Burton impersonator.

Jodes wrote:So Fool, do you honestly think that Carl could manage 50-60 dates a year with the band after his car accident?

Or do you have more "insider" information that we don't know about?

yep he could.

And the reason why you're calling us idiots is?

Please share..

Jodes wrote:And the reason why you're calling us idiots is?

Please share..

you guys just go on talking like you know why bands do things, or what stuff they like doing and you don't have a clue.

Oh so please enlighten us Fool..

I asked a simple question about if Kale's version of the Guess Who can perform in Canada, and you get all upset.

Everyone's got their opinions.. like you saying Burton Cummings sounds awful.. now I haven't seen him live, but many of my friends that have say that he's sounding better now than he's ever been.

Too each their own, but there's no reason to be insulting..

foolintherain wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

You'd have to be a complete buffoon to go see "The Guess Who" now. I just saw Randy and Burton a few weeks ago in Windsor - AWESOME. Burton quit smoking and he sounds better than he has in years.

Jim Kale can't keep his nose out of the bottle and Gary Peterson looks like a retired cop who kept up w/ his donut habit. Pitiful. I'm not one to pre-judge bands w/ replacements... I like Journey, Styx, the current LRB and what not, but they at least still have a core member or two (LRB is debatable if you're a hardcore I guess). The Guess Who was Randy and Burton, period.

Burton sounds like shit..has NO voice left. He's like a really bad Burton impersonator.

Hey fuckhead, I just saw Burton two weeks ago in Windsor. He quit smoking and sounds way better than he has in the past. Even if he didn't, he's still better than anyone else singing his songs. You truly are a fool you fuckin idiot. You're defending a goddamn bastard tribute band

LordofDaRing wrote:Hmmm normally 50% of that goes to overhead, so each member of Styx is making maybe around $5K a night. Not bad. If Chuck shows up, a little less.

Loverboy - $15K???? Doesn't even pay for Mike Reno's dinner tab...

Typically on festival shows production costs aren't passed to the artists. If Styx had to provide the sound, lighting, and backline the cost to book them probably would have been much higher. My guess is that for these type of shows the $50k goes straight to the artist and their crew with very little being paid out as overhead.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Yeah, and that's not to mention a cut of gate sales, merchandise, concessions, etc. That's just their guarantee. And it's actually pretty cheap. I know booking Def Leppard and Journey during their tour in 2006 cost $250,000.

That figure sounds very low to me. Depends on timing and location of course.

Ehwmatt wrote:

foolintherain wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

You'd have to be a complete buffoon to go see "The Guess Who" now. I just saw Randy and Burton a few weeks ago in Windsor - AWESOME. Burton quit smoking and he sounds better than he has in years.

Jim Kale can't keep his nose out of the bottle and Gary Peterson looks like a retired cop who kept up w/ his donut habit. Pitiful. I'm not one to pre-judge bands w/ replacements... I like Journey, Styx, the current LRB and what not, but they at least still have a core member or two (LRB is debatable if you're a hardcore I guess). The Guess Who was Randy and Burton, period.

Burton sounds like shit..has NO voice left. He's like a really bad Burton impersonator.

Hey fuckhead, I just saw Burton two weeks ago in Windsor. He quit smoking and sounds way better than he has in the past. Even if he didn't, he's still better than anyone else singing his songs. You truly are a fool you fuckin idiot. You're defending a goddamn bastard tribute band

Fuck you. Don't call me fool, it's foolintherain, not that anyone on this forum would understand that.

Well if you think you are so much above us foolintherain, why bother to come in here and post?

Jodes wrote:Well if you think you are so much above us foolintherain, why bother to come in here and post?

Trying to save you from ignorance.

Thats okay.. I don't think any of us on here need to be "saved".

Btw.. listen to Led Zeppelin much?

my god.

foolintherain wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

foolintherain wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

blt man wrote:Who would pay the current version of the Guess Who $35,000?
Its the original bassist, and drummer and the rest are fill ins doing immitations of Randy bachman and Burton Cummings (who now tour together). I guess thats what happens when no one properly registers the name until years later.

The styx equivalent would be the Panozzo brothers hiring 2 guitarists and a keyboardists to sing the Styx catalogue while DDY, TS and JY tour under a different name.

You'd have to be a complete buffoon to go see "The Guess Who" now. I just saw Randy and Burton a few weeks ago in Windsor - AWESOME. Burton quit smoking and he sounds better than he has in years.

Jim Kale can't keep his nose out of the bottle and Gary Peterson looks like a retired cop who kept up w/ his donut habit. Pitiful. I'm not one to pre-judge bands w/ replacements... I like Journey, Styx, the current LRB and what not, but they at least still have a core member or two (LRB is debatable if you're a hardcore I guess). The Guess Who was Randy and Burton, period.

Burton sounds like shit..has NO voice left. He's like a really bad Burton impersonator.

Hey fuckhead, I just saw Burton two weeks ago in Windsor. He quit smoking and sounds way better than he has in the past. Even if he didn't, he's still better than anyone else singing his songs. You truly are a fool you fuckin idiot. You're defending a goddamn bastard tribute band

Fuck you. Don't call me fool, it's foolintherain, not that anyone on this forum would understand that.

Oh yeah, I totally didn't catch the reference to one of the most overplayed Zepp songs. Gimme a break. Why don't you go listen to Stairway to Heaven and pretend like you're listening to a deep cut you arbiter of musical wisdom.

Jodes wrote:Thats okay.. I don't think any of us on here need to be "saved".

Btw.. listen to Led Zeppelin much?

How many google searches did that one take?

foolintherain wrote:

Jodes wrote:Thats okay.. I don't think any of us on here need to be "saved".

Btw.. listen to Led Zeppelin much?

How many google searches did that one take?

You are truly hilarious... as if people don't know about that song of all Zeppelin songs to try and flaunt your "vast" music knowledge. You sound like a 13 year old who just discovered The beatles and Led Zeppelin, oh and some black guy that played a Strat through a Marshall and a Octofuzz really good, swore off Nirvana and Green Day, and began airing your musical superiority. Do you measure your sad, pitiful dick in the mirror as well?