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The GRAND ILLUSION

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:32 am
by yogi
The lyrics found in The Grand Illusion are obviously pre 9-11 lyrics. In light of everything that has happened post 9-11 around the world I wonder if DDY still believes that 'deep inside we are all the same'.

I wish Sterling, Suite or others who have access to Dennis would ask him if he still believes that line.

I give myself a B+ for starting this insightful assembly line.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:33 am
by Higgy
Well, if he's a good American, he's become a paranoid neoconservative shithead.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:14 am
by brywool
Higgy wrote:Well, if he's a good American, he's become a paranoid neoconservative shithead.



HAHAHAHAHHA!~

Great post Higgy!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:39 am
by cittadeeno23
What exactly is a good american?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:09 pm
by KWH17
The songs meaning has not changed much since it was first released. Singling out that one line is a bit much, but I can contest your argument. Humans are humans, and we are all capable of the same actions, brought about by the same feelings. What makes us different is our circumstances, but even these differences don't stop us from empathizing with someone. Just the fact that we can put ourselves in someone elses shoes when we have not experienced the same thing directly is proof of how 'same' we are. If you are referring to terrorists in your post, and you can't empathize with a terrorist, then think about it this way. Their radical agenda, based upon their own warped principles is no different than the European Crusaders, or the Imperialists. Through terrible violence whole countries were brought under control, and while the warfare is different, the objective is the same. If you need a more modern example than the Crusaders, then what about good ol' American gangs?

Now I do not condone what terrorists or gangs have done, and although they may disgust me, they do not go against DDY's line, or song.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:46 pm
by BlackWall
Or maybe... Dennis only meant all Americans are all the same.. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:49 pm
by KWH17
Possibly, but he could have meant it to be interpreted either way.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:25 pm
by blt man
I think that you have taken that line out of context. It has to be read with the rest of the song which is more about fame, stars, money, those with possessions. As compared to those people, deep inside we are all the same. Song is still relevant - see Tiger Woods.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:10 am
by KWH17
I realize what the song is really about. I just went on a mini-rant on what I figured what the op was talking about.