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In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

Oh!!!!!! This means A LOT! This is a crushing blow to both Dennis and his fans! Does Ripper Owens also think new Styx is better? What about the guys who played Coy and Vance? Do they also prefer new Styx. Time to pack it in, Deyoungians!

Personally, I believe Styx was at their best performing live around the time of Grand Illusion and before. Since Paradise they have been pretty much the same, at leas to me.

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss says he thinks Styx is better now?
How much cash was this dude paid
How can a guy say a band that has been playing the same 12 songs for the past 10 years is better than the original.
Is the guy Stoned?

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss says he thinks Styx is better now?
How much cash was this dude paid
How can a guy say a band that has been playing the same 12 songs for the past 10 years is better than the original.
Is the guy Stoned?

I'm going to have to agree w/froy here!! I like ES, but that was just an ignorant statement!!

Even KF is asking...REALLY?!?!

KF: You said something in your last answer that I wanted to hit upon. In 2004, you had been out of the band a second time and Paul and Gene asked you to come back. Was this an easy decision for you?

ES: Well, Tim, I look at it this way. Sometimes some of those things -- to me they are personal. I don't necessarily need to share all of my emotions or sentiments about every little thing I do.

Think of it like an ex-wife or ex-girlfriend that you decide to get back together with. Are you going to want to tell everybody if you have an on-and-off again relationship with somebody? Do you want to tell everybody what you went through? Not necessarily. Maybe your personal friends or your family. But for everybody else...to me, the bottom line is that I play drums for a living and that's what I want to do. That's what I've always wanted to do from the time I was a kid. And that's what I've been blessed and fortunate enough to be able to do.

One of the hard things to learn to do is to understand the politics that go along with being in a band. It's not easy. It sucks sometimes. The politics and business side of things is what makes it very difficult. It's what eats a lot of people up and chews them up and spits them out, because they can't deal with the emotional roller coaster and all the business side of things. It's a very tough business. And you know, think about this. A band -- you can take something from nothing, creating songs and an entity, if you will, and all of the sudden turn that from nothing in a garage into a multimillion dollar business. That's the potential of a band. Four young kids starting off in their basement and all of the sudden they come up in the right time, right place with the right music, and all of the sudden it
blows up and becomes huge. And now there's a multimillion dollar corporation or business, if you will. Of course, if you're fortunate enough to have success. Those are the exceptions rather than the rules. Most bands don't reach that success and most musicians don't really make much money, or very few do.


I particularly love this portion of the interview ...smart guy!! This was a great read, thanks for posting, Jestor!!

yeah, the nerve of that guy, to have an opinion! man, does he have brass balls, or what? good thing he's got you guys to keep him on the straight and narrow....

leftovertu wrote:yeah, the nerve of that guy, to have an opinion! man, does he have brass balls, or what? good thing he's got you guys to keep him on the straight and narrow....

lol, very good point!! If that's the way he feels then that's the way he feels!!!
Dude just has bad taste that all ...

Michigan, did you read part one of the interview as well? It is a really good interview with him. Singer is one of the seemingly good dudes in the music world. I just posted that clip there because I was curious to what everyone's thought was on the current band. I saw them when they were touring with REO and Journey a few years back and thought they put on a helleva show and I loved Cyclorama. Then they did the covers album which I thought was terrible. I also saw Dennis DeYoung solo and he put on an amazing show.

jestor92 wrote:Michigan, did you read part one of the interview as well? It is a really good interview with him. Singer is one of the seemingly good dudes in the music world. I just posted that clip there because I was curious to what everyone's thought was on the current band. I saw them when they were touring with REO and Journey a few years back and thought they put on a helleva show and I loved Cyclorama. Then they did the covers album which I thought was terrible. I also saw Dennis DeYoung solo and he put on an amazing show.

I have not read part 1, I just noticed that this was part 2 ...thanks and I will!!! I missed the Styx, Journey, REO show...
I have never seen DDY solo and that is definitely on my to do list!!

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss

And what exact part of the music industry do you work in that is superior to his job? You can spout all you like, but no one else can? Who the fuck do you think you are? Eric Singer is 100x more successful than you'll ever be. So is Lawrence Gowan

Archetype wrote:

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss

And what exact part of the music industry do you work in that is superior to his job? You can spout all you like, but no one else can? Who the fuck do you think you are? Eric Singer is 100x more successful than you'll ever be. So is Lawrence Gowan :)

oooo froy isn't gonna like that

Archetype wrote:

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss

And what exact part of the music industry do you work in that is superior to his job? You can spout all you like, but no one else can? Who the fuck do you think you are? Eric Singer is 100x more successful than you'll ever be. So is Lawrence Gowan

In your dreams pal
Gowan is a snake
Singer sminger never heard of em

froy wrote:

Archetype wrote:

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss

And what exact part of the music industry do you work in that is superior to his job? You can spout all you like, but no one else can? Who the fuck do you think you are? Eric Singer is 100x more successful than you'll ever be. So is Lawrence Gowan

In your dreams pal
Gowan is a snake
Singer sminger never heard of em

You must not listen to a lot of music. Eric Singer has played drums for Lita Ford, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, KISS (Twice), Gary Moore, Badlands, Brian May, and Union. So yeah he's been around and is a damn fine drummer.

I liked this quote

"Four young kids starting off in their basement and all of the sudden they come up in the right time, right place with the right music, and all of the sudden it
blows up and becomes huge."

That's basically what happened to STYX. By the time Grand Illusion came out, they were on top and they rode the wave for a few years. Were they the flavor of the week, month, year? - yes. Were they a better band then? - nope.

STYX is no longer on top of the world. In fact, they have become a guilty pleasure for me. I usually don't tell people when I am about to go see them. But are they a better band now than they were 33 years ago? - you bet!

These guys have figured out who they are, what they want to do and how to do it.

eric singer is right from strictly a quality and tightness of the band standpoint. i've thought that for a long time.

todd and gowan and incredible musicians along with a clean and sober tommy makes for a powerful band....it doesnt mean that it is the band i prefer but they are a better performing band now.

froy wrote:

Archetype wrote:

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss

And what exact part of the music industry do you work in that is superior to his job? You can spout all you like, but no one else can? Who the fuck do you think you are? Eric Singer is 100x more successful than you'll ever be. So is Lawrence Gowan

Singer sminger never heard of em

Well your musical ignorance isn't his fault. How many have heard of you? How prominent are you in the music world? Who have you been a "fill-in" for? You're the equivalent of a zit on Lawrence Gowan's ass, if that.

kansas666 wrote:I liked this quote



These guys have figured out who they are, what they want to do and how to do it.

Yep they are a band that plays for the love of money not music and they are also a band that plays the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over again, Are they better now than 33 years ago Not even close

froy wrote:

kansas666 wrote:I liked this quote



These guys have figured out who they are, what they want to do and how to do it.

Yep they are a band that plays for the love of money not music and they are also a band that plays the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over again, Are they better now than 33 years ago Not even close

You do know that they were playing the same songs even with dennis in the band right?

Thenightbull wrote:

froy wrote:

kansas666 wrote:I liked this quote



These guys have figured out who they are, what they want to do and how to do it.

Yep they are a band that plays for the love of money not music and they are also a band that plays the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over again, Are they better now than 33 years ago Not even close

You do know that they were playing the same songs even with dennis in the band right?

Wrong and lets get a second line from ya
You look like Adam

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jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

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Singer sminger never heard of em

Well your musical ignorance isn't his fault. How many have heard of you? How prominent are you in the music world? Who have you been a "fill-in" for? You're the equivalent of a zit on Lawrence Gowan's ass, if that.

Hey I never walked on stage and made a damn fool out of myself like Gowan does night after night.
I never claimed I was in music and most of all I did not ruin a triple platinum band like hemaroid did
You troll

masque wrote:eric singer is right from strictly a quality and tightness of the band standpoint. i've thought that for a long time.

todd and gowan and incredible musicians along with a clean and sober tommy makes for a powerful band....it doesnt mean that it is the band i prefer but they are a better performing band now.

Yea right
I will put the 96 dvd up against any lame video they can produce.
And I will pick 10 random songs against that lame carrot cd
NO CONTEST

jestor92 wrote:

froy wrote:

Archetype wrote:

froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:




Singer sminger never heard of em

You must not listen to a lot of music. Eric Singer has played drums for Lita Ford, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, KISS (Twice), Gary Moore, Badlands, Brian May, and Union. So yeah he's been around and is a damn fine drummer.

No I have only been to 600 concerts in 30 years.
Im sure he is a fine drummer Im sure Kenny Arranoff blows him away
Now what?

froy wrote:

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froy wrote:

jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

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Singer sminger never heard of em

Well your musical ignorance isn't his fault. How many have heard of you? How prominent are you in the music world? Who have you been a "fill-in" for? You're the equivalent of a zit on Lawrence Gowan's ass, if that.

Hey I never walked on stage and made a damn fool out of myself like Gowan does night after night.
I never claimed I was in music and most of all I did not ruin a triple platinum band like hemaroid did
You troll

You're claim you were never in music, yet write off Eric Singer as a nobody, as if you're a more prominent person. Lawrence was offered a job and he accepted the offer. Dennis wasn't performing in a manner that the Styx corporation found suitable, so they found someone who would step up to the plate.

froy wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

froy wrote:

kansas666 wrote:I liked this quote



These guys have figured out who they are, what they want to do and how to do it.

Yep they are a band that plays for the love of money not music and they are also a band that plays the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over again, Are they better now than 33 years ago Not even close

You do know that they were playing the same songs even with dennis in the band right?

Wrong and lets get a second line from ya
You look like Adam

You wish froy The only person wrong here is you (as usual)

Wow! The new Styx is the best ever? I thought the old Styx was pretty good, but this version is even better. I can't wait to hear all the great music they're going to put out. I'm sure these new songs will be better too since the band is better. It's going to be wonderful. Then they can retire all those old songs they got lucky with in 1972, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1983 and 1990 when they caught lightning in a bottle.

Must have been a pretty big bottle though.

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jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

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Singer sminger never heard of em

Well your musical ignorance isn't his fault. How many have heard of you? How prominent are you in the music world? Who have you been a "fill-in" for? You're the equivalent of a zit on Lawrence Gowan's ass, if that.

Hey I never walked on stage and made a damn fool out of myself like Gowan does night after night.
I never claimed I was in music and most of all I did not ruin a triple platinum band like hemaroid did
You troll

You're claim you were never in music, yet write off Eric Singer as a nobody, as if you're a more prominent person. Lawrence was offered a job and he accepted the offer. Dennis wasn't performing in a manner that the Styx corporation found suitable, so they found someone who would step up to the plate.

And many singers were offered to sing for Aerosmith guess what nobody took the gig and The band has now announced a summer tour with Tyler.
If goofy Gowan the impersonator would have had some scruples he would have said NO THANKS that's Dennis DeYoung's spot I don't want it.
You would have seen the band stay in tact just like Aerosmith. But no his solo career was shit going no place and he was an opportunistic fool who took the job and has ruined a once great band.
Dennis was performing just fine no different then Phil Collins doing songs other than STYX songs so what.
Shaw did ZENs Young did Wolves and Dennis is not allowed to do his thing? NO way. This was all about money and when Dennis said he would not split the money made from the VW commercial Gowan the opportunistic fool got a 10 year job out of it.

Thats BS no way around that

froy wrote: they are a band that plays for the love of money not music

Here's something for you Froy. I play in a band and I have had this discussion many times with other musicians.

Being in a band is about 2 things; money and vanity.

Other musicians have argued - NO it's about THE MUSIC!

I say if it were about the music then you would be perfectly happy playing in your basement all alone. But instead you choose to get paid to get all dressed up, stand in front of a bunch of pretty lights and soak up the applause from a lot of people you don't know.

kansas666 wrote:

froy wrote: they are a band that plays for the love of money not music

Here's something for you Froy. I play in a band and I have had this discussion many times with other musicians.

Being in a band is about 2 things; money and vanity.

Other musicians have argued - NO it's about THE MUSIC!

I say if it were about the music then you would be perfectly happy playing in your basement all alone. But instead you choose to get paid to get all dressed up, stand in front of a bunch of pretty lights and soak up the applause from a lot of people you don't know.

Half true but if you play for the music you only know its good by the crowd and there reactions to it.
Nothing wrong with what you said
There are many bands still original out there.
Cheap Trick one of them

froy wrote:

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jestor92 wrote:In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"


Singer sminger never heard of em

Well your musical ignorance isn't his fault. How many have heard of you? How prominent are you in the music world? Who have you been a "fill-in" for? You're the equivalent of a zit on Lawrence Gowan's ass, if that.

Hey I never walked on stage and made a damn fool out of myself like Gowan does night after night.
I never claimed I was in music and most of all I did not ruin a triple platinum band like hemaroid did
You troll

You're claim you were never in music, yet write off Eric Singer as a nobody, as if you're a more prominent person. Lawrence was offered a job and he accepted the offer. Dennis wasn't performing in a manner that the Styx corporation found suitable, so they found someone who would step up to the plate.

And many singers were offered to sing for Aerosmith guess what nobody took the gig and The band has now announced a summer tour with Tyler.
If goofy Gowan the impersonator would have had some scruples he would have said NO THANKS that's Dennis DeYoung's spot I don't want it.
You would have seen the band stay in tact just like Aerosmith. But no his solo career was shit going no place and he was an opportunistic fool who took the job and has ruined a once great band.
Dennis was performing just fine no different then Phil Collins doing songs other than STYX songs so what.
Shaw did ZENs Young did Wolves and Dennis is not allowed to do his thing? NO way. This was all about money and when Dennis said he would not split the money made from the VW commercial Gowan the opportunistic fool got a 10 year job out of it.

Thats BS no way around that

Dennis didn't perform adequately for the Styx corporation. Styx found someone who could handle the job requirements of touring. Gowan's solo career has always been more than enough for a very comfortable lifestyle for him. He made the band better. All of Dennis's drama is gone, which eliminated a lot of stress for the other band members which allows them to live better and perform well.